The 2023 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

BR2 · Jan 10, 2023

I want to give so many likes and head-ups. Enjoy this thread very much so far, it's very interesting to read all your thoughts and accounts and I'd love to react to so many of them but can't find the time before the discussion has already moved on.

I think we are all going to have some fun following the season with the game in mind, not just for our teams but also to see in general how the different approaches and expectations will play out.
And to think that the first update will come soon! (With no points for me, I think.)
Thank you very much skidmark. It's very hard to thank you enough for how much energy you are putting into running this smoothly.

skidmark · Jan 10, 2023

Here are the (hopefully) final popularity rankings:

ALAPHILIPPE Julian	97
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley	90
SCHACHMANN Maximilian	86
ASGREEN Kasper	82
PIDCOCK Thomas	76
MOSCON Gianni	70
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian	67
GREGOIRE Romain	60
MARTINEZ Lenny	58
ROGLIC Primoz	57
DEKKER David	53
Schelling Ide	52
HAYTER Leo	51
TARLING Joshua	45
HAIG Jack	44
ONLEY Oscar	43
WALLS Matthew	42
GLOAG Thomas	41
HONORE Mikkel Frølich	40
SIMMONS Quinn	39
HERMANS Ben	39
MILAN Jonathan	38
FISHER-BLACK Finn	36
NYS Thibau	36
BRENNER Marco	35
VAN WILDER Ilan	34
HODEG CHAGUI Alvaro Jose	31
SAGAN Peter	29
Ackermann Pascal	26
SYRITSA Gleb	26
MIHKELS Madis	25
AYUSO PESQUERA Juan	25
CATTANEO Mattia	24
WRIGHT Fred	24
STUYVEN Jasper	23
HOELGAARD Markus	23
LUTSENKO Alexey	23
BARONCINI Filippo	23
KWIATKOWSKI Michal	22
PICCOLO Andrea	22
VAN UDEN Casper	22
HALVORSEN Kristoffer	22
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	20
VAN EETVELT Lennert	20
WATSON Samuel	20
SVRCEK Martin	19
EEKHOFF Nils	19
HERZOG Emil	19
QUICK Blake	19
TEUNISSEN Mike	18
VACEK Mathias	18
TULETT Ben	18
BAGIOLI Andrea	17
PADUN Mark	16
MOSCHETTI Matteo	15
VAN DER POEL Mathieu	15
MORGADO Antonio	15
ALMEIDA Joao Pedro Gonçalves	15
Pedersen Casper Phillip	14
PLOWRIGHT Jensen	14
MARIT Arne	14
EWAN Caleb	14
BOL Cees	14
LEONARD Michael	14
PENHOËT Paul	14
SHEFFIELD Magnus	13
KELDERMAN Wilco	13
VADER Milan	13
Hamilton Lucas	13
PLAPP Lucas	13
GAVIRIA RENDON Fernando	12
VERNON Ethan	12
PARET-PEINTRE Aurélien	12
TURNER Benjamin	12
GAUDU David	12
CONTI Valerio	12
STEWART Jake	12
DUNBAR Eddie	11
MÄDER Gino	11
Heiduk Kim	11
STYBAR Zdenek	11
THOMPSON Reuben	11
PONOMAR Andriy	11
WAERENSKJOLD Søren	11
Laurance Axel	11
RICKAERT Jonas	11
VANDENABEELE Henri	10
Masnada Fausto	10
RICCITELLO Matthew	10
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh	10
LAMPAERT Yves	10
QUINN Sean	9
STRONG Corbin	9
STEINHAUSER Georg	9
Kuss Sepp	9
CHRISTEN Jan	9
PAGE Hugo	9
MIHOLJEVIC Fran	9
VALGREN HUNDAHL (ANDERSEN) Michael	8
GIRMAY HAILU Biniam	8
RODRIGUEZ CANO Carlos	8
FABBRO Matteo	8
TIBERI Antonio	8
ASKEY Lewis	7
ZAMBANINI Edoardo	7
STORER Michael	7
GROVES Kaden	7
VERMEERSCH Florian	7
TESSON Jason	7
ROMEO ABAD Ivan	7
GANNA Filippo	7
ARRIETA LIZARRAGA Igor	7
YATES Simon	7
HAGENES Per Strand	7
BAUDIN Alex	7
VINE Jay	7
KOLZE CHANGIZI Sebastian	6
TRONCHON Bastien	6
POOLE Max	6
HOFSTEDE Lennard	6
ROMO OLIVER Javier	6
VIVIANI Elia	6
FROOME Chris	6
WOODS Michael	6
EDVARDSEN-FREDHEIM Stian	6
BENNETT Sam	5
PIGANZOLI Davide	5
SEGAERT Alec	5
EIKING Odd Christian	5
PITHIE Laurence	5
POLITT Nils	5
CHAMPOUSSIN Clément	5
RYAN Archie	5
BOUHANNI Nacer	5
VERCHER Mattéo	5
JORGENSON Matteo	5
KÄMNA Lennard	5
O'BRIEN Kelland	5
ANTUNES Amaro Manuel Reposo	5
DINHAM Matthew	5
BISSEGGER Stefan	5
OSBORNE Jason	5
CALMEJANE Lilian	4
VAUQUELIN Kévin	4
FEDOROV Yevgeniy	4
GODON Dorian	4
WILLIAMS Stephen	4
HARPER Chris	4
CARR Simon	4
DE GENDT Aimé	4
VAN DER LIJKE Nick	4
HEALY Ben	4
LE BERRE Mathis	4
Bonifazio Niccolo	4
DE PLUS Laurens	4
HESSMANN Michel	4
CARBONI Giovanni	4
HIRSCHI Marc	4
THIJSSEN Gerben	4
PUPPIO Antonio	4
KOOIJ Olav	4
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David	4
VAN DIJKE Mick	4
RODENBERG MADSEN Frederik	4
VERMAERKE Kevin	4
HOWSON Damien	4
LEKNESSUND Andreas	4
JAKOBSEN Fabio	4
COSTIOU Ewen	4
STAUNE-MITTET Johannes	4
SKJELMOSE JENSEN Mattias	4
BUITRAGO SANCHEZ Santiago	3
ISIDORE Noa	3
VAN MECHELEN Vlad	3
MALUCELLI Matteo	3
LEEMREIZE Gijs	3
BAX Sjoerd	3
HOLLYMAN Mason	3
GONZALEZ RIVERA Abner	3
BITTNER Pavel	3
ARENSMAN Thymen	3
LECERF William Junior	3
DENNIS Rohan	3
SAMITIER SAMITIER Sergio	3
NYCH Artem	3
BERHE Welay Hagos	3
FRETIN Milan	3
LAPEIRA Paul	3
GAROFOLI Gianmarco	3
DIAZ GALLEGO Jose Manuel	3
EENKHOORN Pascal	3
BARRE Louis	3
FOSS Tobias Svendsen	3
JACOBS Johan	3
RENARD Alexis	3
VINK Michael	3
TIVANI PEREZ German Nicolas	3
SALBY Alexander	3
GALL Felix	3
GEOGHEGAN HART Tao	3
VACEK Karel	3
HAYTER Ethan	3
DAINESE Alberto	3
MILESI Lorenzo	3
MÜHLBERGER Gregor	3

skidmark · Jan 10, 2023

and the rare riders:

AZPARREN IRURZUN Enekoitz	2
VAN DIJKE Tim	2
ALEOTTI Giovanni	2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka	2
Amezqueta Moreno Julen	2
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion	2
HAILEMICHAEL Mulu Kinfe	2
JANSEN Amund Grøndahl	2
VALTER Attila	2
JOHANNESSEN Anders Halland	2
DE POOTER Dries	2
KUDUS Merhawi Gebremedhin	2
GOVEKAR Matevz	2
DEWULF Stan	2
SIMMONS Colby	2
GARCIA SOSA Jhojan Orlando	2
DE LIE Arnaud	2
LOPEZ CUESTA Joseba	2
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan	2
BATTISTELLA Samuele	2
VAN DER SANDE Tosh	2
CROCKETT Finn	2
VANSEVENANT Mauri	2
MAS NICOLAU Enric	2
WOOD Harrison	2
MCGILL Scott	2
PRICE-PEJTERSEN Johan	2
MEEUS Jordi	2
SAJNOK Szymon	2
BETTIOL Alberto	2
BURGAUDEAU Mathieu	2
MULUBRHAN Henok	2
SIVAKOV Pavel	2
NARVAEZ PRADO Jhonatan Manuel	2
TANFIELD Harry	2
NIZZOLO Giacomo	2
CARRETERO MILLAN Hector	2
NORSGAARD JØRGENSEN Mathias	2
HELLEMOSE Asbjørn	2
GERITS Vince	2
CEPEDA ORTIZ Jefferson Alexander	2
GIBBONS Ryan	2
VAN DEN BOSSCHE Fabio	2
PALENI Enzo	2
BALDERSTONE ROUMENS Abel	2
PEÑA JIMENEZ Jesus David	2
VAN TRICHT Stan	2
PEÑALVER ANIORTE Manuel	2
Ballerstedt Maurice	2
BLUME LEVY William	2
WELSFORD Samuel	2
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin	2
ARDILA ORDOÑEZ Andres Camilo	2
RACCANI Simone	2
CABEDO CARDA Oscar	1
FANCELLU Alessandro	1
LONARDI Giovanni	1
JUARISTI ARRIETA Txomin	1
BURNETT Josh	1
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd	1
TOUMIRE Hugo	1
MAYRHOFER Marius	1
JONES Taj	1
FLYNN Sean	1
SENECHAL Florian	1
BARCELO ARAGON Fernando	1
STEIMLE Jannik	1
MERLIER Tim	1
BADILATTI Matteo	1
MERTENS Julian	1
UMBA LOPEZ Abner Santiago	1
GAZE Samuel	1
HIGUITA GARCIA Sergio Andres	1
GEE Derek	1
VERRE Alessandro	1
AMADOR BIKKAZAKOVA Andrey	1
WÜRTZ SCHMIDT Mads	1
GENIETS Kévin	1
SEXTON Tom	1
MOLLEMA Bauke	1
SMITH Dion	1
BERTHET Clément	1
STOKBRO Andreas Nielsen	1
MOSCA Jacopo	1
CANAL BLANCO Carlos	1
KOGUT Oded	1
LEITAO Iuri Gabriel Dantas	1
BEVILACQUA Simone	1
CARSTENSEN Lucas	1
MOVCHAN Andriy	1
BAILEY Barrington	1
COVI Alessandro	1
LÜHRS Luis-Joe	1
ARANBURU DEBA Alexander	1
CHAOUFI Tarik	1
KONYCHEV Alexander	1
HOEHN Alex	1
NIERI Alessio	1
BALMER Alexandre	1
FRAILE MATARRANZ Omar	1
MARTIN SANZ Gotzon	1
KOPECKY Matyas	1
SCHULTZ Nicholas	1
NØRTOFT Morten Aalling	1
SERRANO RODRIGUEZ Gonzalo	1
DONOVAN Mark	1
SHMIDT Artem	1
BEVIN Patrick	1
LE GAC Olivier	1
GEORGE Dylan	1
SOUPE Geoffrey	1
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello	1
BUSATTO Francesco	1
KRON Andreas Lorentz	1
STORK Florian	1
OSORIO CARVAJAL Alejandro	1
SVESTAD-BAARDSENG Embret	1
GERMANI Lorenzo	1
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan	1
KRUIJSWIJK Steven	1
TEUNS Dylan	1
FELLINE Fabio	1
HEINSCHKE Leon	1
PALETTI Luca	1
TRATNIK Jan	1
DRIZNERS Jarrad	1
CARTHY Hugh	1
PARET-PEINTRE Valentin	1
ANIOLKOWSKI Stanislaw	1
PATTERSON Zakk	1
VAN BEKKUM Darren	1
BIZKARRA ETXEGIBEL Mikel	1
CHAMPION Thomas	1
PEDERSEN Rasmus Søjberg	1
DAVIS Corey	1
PELLAUD Simon	1
VAN POPPEL Boy	1
Kulset Sindre	1
CIMOLAI Davide	1
DE BOD Stefan	1
BALLERINI Davide	1
BLIKRA Erlend Jordbrekk	1
VERMEERSCH Gianni	1
PERICHON Pierre-Luc	1
VINGEGAARD RASMUSSEN Jonas	1
PERRY Toby	1
CONCI Nicola	1
PERSICO Davide	1
WILKSCH Hannes	1
PETERS Nans	1
HVIDEBERG Jonas Iversby	1
PICCOLI James	1
SCHMID Mauro	1
ABERASTURI IZAGA Jon	1
LASTRA MARTINEZ Jonathan	1
PICKERING Finlay	1
SEPULVEDA Eduardo	1
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald	1
SERRANO RODRIGUEZ Javier	1
LAAS Martin	1
ARVAI Kristof	1
PINOT Thibaut	1
LAZKANO LOPEZ Oier	1
LAFAY Victor	1
CURRIE Logan	1
AASVOLD Kristian	1
SLOCK Liam	1
GOGL Michael	1
SOTO GUIRAO Antonio Jesus	1
GOIKOETXEA GOIOGANA Peio	1
AZPARREN IRURZUN Xabier Mikel	1
BONNAMOUR Franck	1
HAMILTON Chris	1
GOLDSTEIN Omer	1
STOCKWELL Oliver	1
PORTER Rudy	1
AZURMENDI SAGASTIBELTZA Ibai	1
PÖSTLBERGER Lukas	1
DE LA PARTE GONZALEZ Victor	1
POWLESS Neilson	1
HARVEY Dean	1
PRADES REVERTER Benjami	1
CAMPRUBI PIJUAN Marcel	1
PRADES REVERTER Eduard	1
DINA Marton	1
LAMPERTI Luke	1
TERCERO LOPEZ Fernando	1
Pronskiy Daniil	1
DE MARCHI Alessandro	1
PRONSKIY Vadim	1
HECHT Gage	1
PUCCIO Salvatore	1
BARBIER Rudy	1
DURAN Alejandro Antonio	1
TOLHOEK Antwan	1
BONNEU Kamiel	1
TRAEEN Torstein	1
LANDA MEANA Mikel	1
LEMMEN Bart	1
IRIBAR JAUREGI Unai	1
TUREK Daniel	1
YEMANE Dawit Tsegay	1
BARTHE Cyril	1
ZAMBELLI Samuele	1
HEMING Mika	1
ITURRIA SEGUROLA Mikel	1
LIPOWITZ Florian	1
RESTREPO VALENCIA Jhonatan	1
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose	1
RETAILLEAU Valentin	1
VAN DEN BERG Marijn	1
REX Laurenz	1
HERREGODTS Rune	1
REYNDERS Jens	1
JOHNSON Cooper	1
BOU COMPANY Joan	1
LUND ANDRESEN Tobias	1
GRANIGAN Noah	1
VAN HEMELEN Vincent	1
ALBANESE Vincenzo	1
VAN MOER Brent	1
GRONDIN Donavan	1
LUNDER Eirik	1
RODRIGUEZ GARAICOECHEA Oscar	1
HINDSGAUL MADSEN Jacob	1
ADRIA OLIVERAS Roger	1
VANDEPITTE Nathan	1
ROLLAND Brieuc	1
ETXEBERRIA ZAFRA Asier	1
GROSU Eduard-Michael	1
VERGALLITO Luca	1
DURBRIDGE Luke	1
FITZSIMONS Mitchel	1
RONDEL Mathys	1
CLYNHENS Toon	1
GRUEL Thibaud	1
ABREHA Negasi Haylu	1
BROEX Victor	1
DE WILDE Gilles	1
FROIDEVAUX Robin	1
COLLEONI Kevin	1
GUDMESTAD Tord	1
WANDAHL Frederik	1
GUERREIRO Ruben Antonio Almeida	1
GAUTHERAT Pierre	1
SANCHEZ MAYO Pelayo	1
HUISING Menno	1
SCALCO Matteo	1
HUYS Branko	1
EARLE Nathan	1
WURF Cameron	1
BURATTI Nicolo	1
BAYER Tobias	1
SCHLEGEL Michal	1
DEGENKOLB John	1
RAJOVIC Dusan	1
ZIJLAARD Maikel	1
RANGEL COSTA Vinicius	1
GRANGER Ben	1

repre · Jan 10, 2023

Tell me what's wrong with Tim van Dijke that only 2 teams took him?

skidmark · Jan 10, 2023

Okay another little update before the Update: I updated the "Rank Popularity" tab, which tallies popularity scores for each participant in the game. That is, the score is based on the cumulative popularity scores of all the riders on your team.

Here's a paste of the rankings; if you've been following this game for years, the teams at the top should not be much of a surprise... I am definitely guilty of liking the popular kids (ie riders)! At the bottom, Basque Street Boys has a score of 48, which may be the lowest score (ie most unique team) in the history of this game.

Rank	Team	Points
1	skidmark	1431
2	MADRAZO	1386
3	Devils_Elbow	1370
4	Total Package	1349
5	Kazistuta	1341
6	Riverside	1336
6	SafeBet	1336
8	Crevaison	1326
9	Salvarani	1305
10	Earns1985	1301
11	Anderis	1299
12	adamski101	1298
13	oliveira	1289
14	Lortnoc	1285
15	AlfaLum	1261
16	Bonimenier	1247
17	Nakazar	1243
18	Armchair cyclist	1235
19	EvansIsTheBest	1234
19	the asian	1234
21	Gotland	1231
22	triley36	1225
23	shalgo	1224
24	hfgon1	1222
25	jsem94	1214
26	Nyssinator	1209
27	LosBrolin	1200
28	repre	1199
29	waku_waku	1187
30	Otoxiep87	1183
31	vsd88	1181
32	Poles & Co	1177
33	Squire	1165
34	18-Valve. (pithy)	1163
35	tobydawq	1162
36	manafana	1159
37	trackstand	1153
38	Berflamand	1149
39	bminchow	1142
40	Sneekes	1141
41	Senderos	1131
42	Amis_Velo	1129
43	JPettersen	1128
44	Object	1126
45	King_Of_The_Wolds	1121
46	karaev	1115
47	will10	1111
48	vladimir	1110
49	del1962	1107
50	Jakob747	1103
51	greenedge	1098
52	PremierAndrew	1092
53	postmanhat	1085
54	Fivezzz	1082
55	DJW	1079
56	Popchu	1073
57	tom_jelte	1069
58	Rufs	1057
59	armchairclimber	1056
59	Nevs	1056
61	Whoops	1046
62	DJ Sprtsch	1045
63	Googolplex	1042
64	laarsland	1030
65	LaFlorecita	1028
66	zigzag_wanderer	1018
67	NielsB	1012
68	Rakim	1008
69	rote_laterne	1006
70	search	1000
71	Eddy_Evenepoel	990
72	scrooll07	987
73	escartin	977
74	Kryvo	971
75	Bicycle_Boy	964
76	JumboVismaFan	949
77	Eric10	947
77	Mellow Velo	947
77	zaka_fan	947
80	PandaClaws	945
81	Joelsim	941
82	Londonpat	940
83	Blues in the bottle	928
84	BlueRoads	911
85	Eyeballs Out	898
86	R_O_Shipman	878
87	HoudiniCycling	868
88	ray10	855
89	AupaPyama	845
90	azazel	839
91	slow_climber	835
92	yoyokt	821
93	Yellow Knight	808
94	NorthAmericanScum	807
95	comodoro	748
96	firefly3323	744
97	Leadbelly	698
98	v1lat	663
99	vickyriso	500
100	Josedin	467
101	Jon_Ezeitza	463
102	RedheadDane	299
103	Basque Street Boys	48

Samu Cuenca · Jan 10, 2023

skidmark said:
Okay another little update before the Update: I updated the "Rank Popularity" tab, which tallies popularity scores for each participant in the game. That is, the score is based on the cumulative popularity scores of all the riders on your team.

Here's a paste of the rankings; if you've been following this game for years, the teams at the top should not be much of a surprise... I am definitely guilty of liking the popular kids (ie riders)! At the bottom, Basque Street Boys has a score of 48, which may be the lowest score (ie most unique team) in the history of this game.

Rank Team Points
1 skidmark 1431
2 MADRAZO 1386
3 Devils_Elbow 1370
4 Total Package 1349
5 Kazistuta 1341
6 Riverside 1336
6 SafeBet 1336
8 Crevaison 1326
9 Salvarani 1305
10 Earns1985 1301
11 Anderis 1299
12 adamski101 1298
13 oliveira 1289
14 Lortnoc 1285
15 AlfaLum 1261
16 Bonimenier 1247
17 Nakazar 1243
18 Armchair cyclist 1235
19 EvansIsTheBest 1234
19 the asian 1234
21 Gotland 1231
22 triley36 1225
23 shalgo 1224
24 hfgon1 1222
25 jsem94 1214
26 Nyssinator 1209
27 LosBrolin 1200
28 repre 1199
29 waku_waku 1187
30 Otoxiep87 1183
31 vsd88 1181
32 Poles & Co 1177
33 Squire 1165
34 18-Valve. (pithy) 1163
35 tobydawq 1162
36 manafana 1159
37 trackstand 1153
38 Berflamand 1149
39 bminchow 1142
40 Sneekes 1141
41 Senderos 1131
42 Amis_Velo 1129
43 JPettersen 1128
44 Object 1126
45 King_Of_The_Wolds 1121
46 karaev 1115
47 will10 1111
48 vladimir 1110
49 del1962 1107
50 Jakob747 1103
51 greenedge 1098
52 PremierAndrew 1092
53 postmanhat 1085
54 Fivezzz 1082
55 DJW 1079
56 Popchu 1073
57 tom_jelte 1069
58 Rufs 1057
59 armchairclimber 1056
59 Nevs 1056
61 Whoops 1046
62 DJ Sprtsch 1045
63 Googolplex 1042
64 laarsland 1030
65 LaFlorecita 1028
66 zigzag_wanderer 1018
67 NielsB 1012
68 Rakim 1008
69 rote_laterne 1006
70 search 1000
71 Eddy_Evenepoel 990
72 scrooll07 987
73 escartin 977
74 Kryvo 971
75 Bicycle_Boy 964
76 JumboVismaFan 949
77 Eric10 947
77 Mellow Velo 947
77 zaka_fan 947
80 PandaClaws 945
81 Joelsim 941
82 Londonpat 940
83 Blues in the bottle 928
84 BlueRoads 911
85 Eyeballs Out 898
86 R_O_Shipman 878
87 HoudiniCycling 868
88 ray10 855
89 AupaPyama 845
90 azazel 839
91 slow_climber 835
92 yoyokt 821
93 Yellow Knight 808
94 NorthAmericanScum 807
95 comodoro 748
96 firefly3323 744
97 Leadbelly 698
98 v1lat 663
99 vickyriso 500
100 Josedin 467
101 Jon_Ezeitza 463
102 RedheadDane 299
103 Basque Street Boys 48

The game has barely started, and my team has already made history. It almost makes up for the injustice of Tarik Chaoufi not being selected to ride Tropicale Amissa Bongo for Morocco. Have they completely forgotten that he once "beat" peak Voeckler there in a sprint?

skidmark · Jan 11, 2023

Update #1: chow down on the first points of the season

My gosh! The game has just kicked off, and we already have our first update. And there's basically one race driving the points - the Aussie nationals road race. (sidenote: the 2.2 Giro del Sol San Juan has also taken place, and I believe v1lat was the only team with a scoring rider in it)

This is the first update, I believe, that has not included both the road race and the time trial, but it's an odd calendar setup and CQ decided to just go with the Monday update. So the 40% of the field (41/103 teams) that scored at least five points have something to be excited about in this update.

This Week's Top Scorers

1	bminchow	126
2	Jakob747	106
3	Blues in the bottle	105
3	ray10	105
3	rote_laterne	105
3	Squire	105

Former game winner bminchow gets off to a hot start - obviously Luke Plapp (13 teams) and his 100 points for the successful defense of his title was necessary to win, but not sufficient. bminchow also picked up 20 points from Lucas Hamilton (also 13 teams) and 6 from Matthew Dinham (5 teams). Jakob747 gets a clean second with Plapp and Dinham, and a handful of Plapp/Ewan teams tie for third.

As this is the first week, there are no high movers, as all teams started equal. But there were points in the...

Green Jersey Competition

Rank	Team	Total
1	bminchow	45
2	Jakob747	35
3	Blues in the bottle	24.5
3	ray10	24.5
3	rote_laterne	24.5
3	Squire	24.5

For those of you who are new or need a refresher: there's a supplementary competition in this game, similar to the Grand Tour tradition of a GC and sub-competitions. This competition awards points based on weekly wins (comparable to stage wins in a GT). It uses the points scale that the TdF used in the mid-2010s, which goes 45-35-30-26-22-20-18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2 for the top 15 finishers. When teams are tied, I just give the average of the sum of the scores for the tied places, which is why you see decimals in the above list.

Anyway, EITB explained in more detail upthread if you're interested - suffice to say we'll be tracking this all season as well, and for this week of course it mirrors the GC.

Top 10 Overall

Rank	Up/down	Team	Points
1	(-)	bminchow	126
2	(-1)	Jakob747	106
3	(-2)	Blues in the bottle	105
3	(-2)	ray10	105
3	(-2)	rote_laterne	105
3	(-2)	Squire	105
7	(-6)	18-Valve. (pithy)	100
7	(-6)	armchairclimber	100
7	(-6)	Devils_Elbow	100
7	(-6)	greenedge	100
7	(-6)	Rufs	100
7	(-6)	Salvarani	100
7	(-6)	zaka_fan	100

Again, this list is the same as the top scorers, as it's only the first week. Due to ties with Plapp-only teams, there are 13 teams in the top 10 this week. I'm not sure if next week will shake things out any more clearly with probably just the ITT giving points, but things will shake out and look more normal quickly. For now, we're off the mark!

spreadsheet at dropbox

note: I've updated the "Rankings" and "Update" tabs, as well as the Green Jersey, Popularity, Rank Popularity tabs, etc. I still have to reformat and update the Week&Month tab, and hide tabs of teams that aren't playing this year, and a bit more work. But we're mostly into 2023 on the spreadsheet.

Squire · Jan 11, 2023

Thanks for the update, skidmark! Splitting the Aussie champs into two updates is good for the green jersey hopes of us aussiephiles.

I can see three Vine+Plapp teams (the leader bminchow, Jakob747 and zaka_fan). They're looking good for next update. And the one Vine+O'Brien team looks even better!

Another random thought I had: Could the popularity of Ayuso and Roglic mean we'll have another massive end-of-Vuelta week this year?

Probably not record-breaking, as Object had the perfect storm last year with 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 10th, 15th, 17th and 19th in the Vuelta, Tour of Britain runner-up, a 1.Pro winner and a 3rd in Montreal. With neither the Canadian races nor Tour of Britain overlapping this time, that's gonna be near impossible to beat. But we do have the 2.Pro Tour of Taihu lake (although it's unlikely to feature too many CQ picks), the 1.Pro races GP Wallonie, Coppa Sabatini and Primus Classic, the 2.1 Tour of Slovakia and five Italian, Belgian or French 1.1 races. I was imagining something like a Vuelta podium consisting of Roglic, Ayuso and then maybe Haig, Uijtdebroeks, Almeida, Martinez and perhaps even Bernal somewhere in the top 10.

Panda Claws · Jan 11, 2023

Congrats to the first winners!

armchairclimber · Jan 11, 2023

I have been on the cusp of the top ten before but this is the first time that I've actually been in it, I think. Looking forward to TDU. I am pretty sure there are points in my 9 man squad.

Salvarani · Jan 11, 2023

TDU & Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race
MOSCON Gianni
CATTANEO Mattia
HAYTER Leo
PLAPP Luke
FISHER-BLACK Finn
HONORÉ Mikkel Frølich
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
ALEOTTI Giovanni

My line-up for the TDU and most likely Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race. It looks good on paper, but the question is how many of them are there to be competitive or just get some miles. Plapp seems to be in good shape and will hopefully ride for GC. Some others should be more than capable as well to score points, if they are in good form. We will see.

As of now it only looks like it will be Bernal and Hermans for me at Vuelta San Juan, that starts a little bit later, but still time for someone else to be added there.

DJ Sprtsch · Jan 11, 2023

Here's my team for TDU
HONORE Mikkel Frølich
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
CATTANEO Mattia
HAYTER Leo
THOMPSON Reuben
PITHIE Laurence
BAUDIN Alex
DINHAM Matthew
FISHER-BLACK Finn
SVRCEK Martin

Let's see. But I really don't expect anything.

Jakob747 · Jan 11, 2023

DJ Sprtsch said:
Here's my team for TDU
HONORE Mikkel Frølich
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
CATTANEO Mattia
HAYTER Leo
THOMPSON Reuben
PITHIE Laurence
BAUDIN Alex
DINHAM Matthew
FISHER-BLACK Finn
SVRCEK Martin

Let's see. But I really don't expect anything.

Dinham looks like a really punchy little climber. He almost matched Plapp's acceleration uphill on the last lap, he just fell something like 5 seconds short and started grabbing his leg like he was crapping up.

He wrote online - Wasn’t on my best day but glad I could be there to support Chris to a great 6th place.

I wonder how Dinham will go in Tour Down Under. I guess it depends on how someone like P. Bevin is doing form-wise.

Devil's Elbow · Jan 11, 2023

TDU:
Alex Baudin
Gianni Moscon
Filippo Baroncini
Antonio Tiberi
Martin Svrcek
Luke Plapp
Leo Hayter
Finn Fisher-Black
Mikkel Honoré
Maximilian Schachmann
Corbin Strong

That’s quite a few people who could potentially do a GC and there are stage points in this team as well. No idea what to expect though, not only is it the first race of the season, but the only rider in this lineup who has ever started this race is Honoré and he didn’t finish. My highest hopes are obviously for Plapp, who has a real shot at taking the overall.

bminchow · Jan 11, 2023

Dont forget the emerging riders and womens game this year. Rosters due!!

bminchow · Jan 11, 2023

Ok. let me try this again and see if i can defend the team I submitted. First of all, my strategy to have multiple australians + Simon Yates may pay off in the form of some early green points. Nice to get a little lead there.

I had four riders in green on my spreadsheet, meaning they were going to be on any roster I submitted. So probably dont need rationale there as they are on the top 10 popularity list.
ALAPHILIPPE Julian
SCHACHMANN Maximilian
MOSCON Gianni
BERNAL GOMEZ Egan Arley

I tried twice to get a roster with Roglic, but just felt like i was missing out on some good value with other riders. I will likely regret that. So I sent in a roster with Almeida as my lead rider. I thought i was all set. But then I looked at it a little more and i thought, Almeida and Simon Yates probably have similar prospects for the year. So lets go with the cheaper one. This made me have to change a few things on my roster. The riders that ended up getting dropped were:
ANDERSEN Søren Kragh (replaced by Kelderman)
VAN DIJKE Mick (replaced by Honore)
BARONCINI Filippo (That one could hurt)
MIHOLJEVIC Fran
GREGOIRE Romain (That one could REALLY hurt)
Starling James (Kept leaonard over him just to be contrarian)

So the other team members are:
YATES Simon (Because he didnt finish either GT in 2022, he is the main leader on the team, and did get 2000 points 5 years ago)
PIDCOCK Thomas (he was actually on every roster I tried to build also. Just a lot being said about TdF and focusing more on the road cycling)
JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland (yes he is expensive, but I think he has the talent to keep improving for the one week races and maybe even in the TdF, since Uno-X is in)
PLAPP Lucas (Just so talented, and should get off to a good start, which he did)
VINE Jay (Admittedly a risk pick with his new team and potential to be Sepp Kuss 2 in the TdF. Not a lot of experience in the peleton, but an excellent climber still. And apparently not too bad in the TTs either)
WRIGHT Fred (Another risky pick. But i could not watch his racing last year and feel that he should be given more lead opportunities. Maybe he'll be on the same points but maybe he can double them with that talent)
TURNER Benjamin (Not sure why. Last year I felt like i picked the wrong Ben from Ineos. Kept hearing about how great he was. So this year I just put him in automatically thinking hewas an obvious pick, without actually researching him at all. Maybe his low popularity ends up in my favor)
HAIG Jack (Still in his prime. Still a GT leader. Bad luck last year so why not at that value. I need somebody in the TdF.
KELDERMAN Wilco (Yes he is a domestique for Primoz, but still has the talent to top 10 himself in a GT, plus maybe a few other races. And I've always been a big fan).
HONORE Mikkel Frølich (Probably not as good without QS, but should be the lead protected rider. And I also had him orange on my spreadsheet (meaning some injury or covid issue last year. Although I couldnt tell you what or for how long he was out). Plus i am an EFE fan and cant pick Uran.
ASGREEN Kasper (Didnt research him at all. Just figured he's still talented and could sneak in a big win during the year to cover last years points and then some)
UIJTDEBROEKS Cian (I think the talk of him in GTs is too early. But Lantern Rouge loves him and i had fear of missing out. Maybe too expensive for 2023.
SIMMONS Quinn (i dont know. American, but I dont really like him. But showed a lot last year without many points. So he could certainly double his points)
Van Wilder Ilan (Slowly improving year to year. I think he takes another step up)
MIHKELS Madis (Never heard of him but people are saying he is a good young sprinter. Maybe he gets some DeLie like points this year)
VAN UDEN Casper (Liked the results that I saw last year and he should get some good opportunities at DSM)
HAMILTON Lucas (Cant be any worse. And sounds like he hasnt given up yet)
CARR Simon (EFE and one good stage win could get him to exceed last years points. He can climb with the breakaway. i think. Cant he?)
BRENNER Marco (Had him every year and he is still young. Nothing so far to say his talent was overestimated)
VANDENABEELE Henri (okay, I like predicting which DSM guys will be their next star)
GLOAG Thomas (I heard he was good. Opportunities at Jumbo? We'll see)
DINHAM Matthew (Didnt really research it. Just thought an Ausie for early season points)
BOL Cees (Only 57points. Was hoping for a ProConti race schedule instead of Cavendish leadout)
SCHELLING Ide (I know he had bad luck and issues last year. So he has to be better. 300 points maybe?)
RICCITELLO Matthew (probably a year or two early but I thought maybe some Avenir points)
STEINHAUSER Georg (Another EFEwho is greatly talented. Sometimes it just takes a couple years to get comfortable in the pros and to reach that next level. i think he is a steal at this point)
PEDERSEN Casper Phillip (Yea, he's going to get so many opportunities. And he is orange on my spreadsheet)
DEKKER David (Did not deliver at all for Jumbo. But he is doing the spanish island races and Tour of Oman. Lots of chances to score some points already for Arkea)
LEONARD Michael (just needed a zero pointer. Took him over Tarling, Christen and Romeo)

So there you have it from a former game winner (yes it was all luck in 2020 with Covid reaking havoc on the teams. but i'll take that honor to my grave). My normal strategy of too many Giro riders and not much else has changed. Chasing some classic and one day race victories this year.

bminchow · Jan 11, 2023

Oh I forgot to list my TdU riders:
YATES Simon (7)
PLAPP Lucas (13)
VINE Jay (7)
HONORE Mikkel Frølich (39)
SCHACHMANN Maximilian (84)
HAMILTON Lucas (13)
DINHAM Matthew (5)
MOSCON Gianni (68)

armchairclimber · Jan 11, 2023

TDU

Hirschi
Plapp
Schachmann
Leo Hayter
Heiduk (possibly San Juan bound)
Harrison Wood
Germani
Vader (Darth)
Thijssen

Total Package · Jan 11, 2023

My team for the TDU:

HONORE Mikkel Frølich (40)
BARONCINI Filippo (23)
SCHACHMANN Maximilian (86)
CATTANEO Mattia (24)
HAYTER Leo (51)
THOMPSON Reuben (11)
MOSCON Gianni (70)
FISHER-BLACK Finn (36)

RedheadDane · Jan 11, 2023

Okay, so how does this work?
We just pick those of our main team who're riding TDU?

I'm guessing that's the case, correct me if I'm wrong:

Sheffield
Thijssen
Strong
Bax
Baroncini
Hellemose

Salvarani · Jan 11, 2023

RedheadDane said:
Okay, so how does this work?
We just pick those of our main team who're riding TDU?

Yes, generating them through random numbers wont work this time.

RedheadDane · Jan 11, 2023

Salvarani said:
Yes, generating them through random numbers wont work this time.

Well, I already generated them.

Samu Cuenca · Jan 11, 2023

TDU
Nans Peters
Pello Bilbao
Gorka Izagirre
Iván Romeo

RedheadDane · Jan 11, 2023

Samu Cuenca said:
TDU
Nans Peters
Pello Bilbao
Gorka Izagirre
Iván Romeo

Okay, I've changed my mind about the "Basqueness ranking". Bilbao should obviously be ranked quite high - despite only having a single 'z' in his name - considering that his name is literally Bilbao!

Jakob747 · Jan 11, 2023

EvansIsTheBest said:
I have no confidence at all in Total Energies ability to control every stage so I'm not sure Tesson is a real threat for the GC. Vercher is my rarest rider and he'll also be there so I'll be very invested in that race. None of my top riders are riding anywhere in January apparently so it would be nice to not to drop too far back in the rankings in the meantime.

It will also be interesting to see how much room for progression Jason Tesson has.

He comes from a cycling family. His grandfather Rene was president of GPC Angevin for many years and Jason has been cycling all his life. Even in his best years as an amateur he´s never was a winning machine (2020 = 3 Wins - 2019 = 2 wins - 2018 = 1 win). However, he did win the French Championships (Amateur) and the Vélo d'Or in 2020,

He´s a light dude around 59 kgs so besides his speed, he should in therory also go uphill well for a sprinter. I found this quate from 2021 by his then Team Manager S: Javalet - « Toutes proportions gardées, c’est un petit Caleb Ewan. très explosif »., le cajole Stéphane Javalet, manager de St-Michel Auber 93, qui ne s’y était pas trompé en le pistant pendant 2 ans.

TotalEnergies has great material thanks to the arrival of Sagan last year - and as Squire also mentioned Tesson will have a lead-out around him this year with Lorenzo Manzin being key, so that will be interesting to see how plays out.

He should be a good professional. CQ points-wise I hope something along the line of H. Hofstetter. Potential-wise, in my opinion, someone like Axel Laurance outsines him pretty clearly though.

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