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My Van Poppel regret has officially increased slightly.no Surf Crap Classic either, by the look of it, which somehow got a 1.pro promotion.
My Van Poppel regret has officially increased slightly.no Surf Crap Classic either, by the look of it, which somehow got a 1.pro promotion.
My Van Poppel regret has officially increased slightly.
Pick all three and they score double.I dunno... as things are standing right now, things are looking very good for Van Poppel in the Surf Coast Classic.
Startlist for Surf Coast Classic - Men 2026
Competing teams and riders for Surf Coast Classic - Men 2026. Top competitors are Danny van Poppel, Brady Gilmore and Danny van Poppel.www.procyclingstats.com
(Just to be clear; it is Danny Van Poppel you've picked, right? Not Boy... or Jean-Paul?)
That makes sense - yeah I always appreciate your team-building approach, as it mixes conventional down-the-middle picks with a risk appetite that accepts big swings, which is why you end up with a unique pick like Buitrago that can really swing things your way if you hit on that risk.Agree that it was pretty much a tossup this year, but for me the tiebreaker is completely the other way around!
How much more fun it is to have some exciting riders who I will feel much better about having predicted to have a good year than I would Evenepoel. And even though I think the Evenepoel (and Roglic etc. in previous years) strategy is the safest in terms of ensuring a high placing, I'm always on the quest for maximizing how many points my team can score. Dreaming of that 20k barrier! And I think having a bunch of mid-to-high cost riders, some of whom could concievably take a big step up and give me several near-Evenepoel scores if the planets, stars, galaxies and everything align, is the only way to have a chance of doing that. Because let's face it, the extra cheap guys that come with an Evenepoel pick aren't going to give me those points, or it's at least extremely hard to predict which random cheap ones will be the best. Because you would already have included the best cheap picks before that even with my strategy, so the extra ones you get are a bit more bottom-of-the-barrel stuff. Even my team this year has some of those, like Faure Prost and Carr. Which made me even more certain that I wouldn't go the Evenepoel route.
Sometimes that gamble really comes back to bite me though, like not having Roglic in 2023 and not having Remco in 2022 (but then I was saved by De Lie and still did well).
Other than that tiebreaker, I agree with all the things you say here. Another difference being that my approach to creating my team is far from as structured as yours.![]()
Yeah, these discussions are part of the beauty of the set-and-forget style of this game. And because the premises are wildly different every year, it's not like one is giving away many 'secrets' either. Not that there really are many secrets anyway, as many different approaches have all been successful. And I don't think you can easily adopt somebody else's intuitive assessment of picks, as @SafeBet touched on in their team presentation.That makes sense - yeah I always appreciate your team-building approach, as it mixes conventional down-the-middle picks with a risk appetite that accepts big swings, which is why you end up with a unique pick like Buitrago that can really swing things your way if you hit on that risk.
That also does elucidate the key difference in our approaches. I do think that my slow and methodical style leads to me having almost always sanding away the edges (ie bigger perceived downside risks) of my team, which in turn almost always has me in the top 10 of the popularity charts. That's maybe kinda boring from many perspectives, but I love the process - or at least until I get fatigued at the end and choose the Van Der Paars and Hatherlys of the world.
Anyway, I always appreciate having this kind of discussion at the start of the season, every year it brings out another nuance of the risk conversation. I also just noticed that in a couple of your posts right above my original one in this topic of conversation, you brought up a few points about risk (eg not missing out on 700 pointers that might go nuclear) that I made in my later post, oops. I wasn't ignoring those points, I just missed those posts (I think my browser was open when the posts were made but they didn't show up when I was replying).
Can't wait until the bulk of riders start their seasons!
Hmm. The quote below made me think my second and to a lesser extent third time playing the game, when I was actively trying to learn from the analyses of (who I considered to be) the best players, might have had deeper-running effects than I thought (and perhaps would have liked). Then again it's been a while since I was doing this, so maybe my thinking would have developed in that direction regardless.And I don't think you can easily adopt somebody else's intuitive assessment of picks
And it's almost disturbing to see how similar my thought process has been to theirs, too, which you will see shortly.
To be fair Vansevenant did spend a lot of time on domestique duty for Evenepoel last year, including in the Ardennes where he scored a big chunk of his 2024 score (and where he claimed his form was at its best in 2025). So Evenepoel leaving should bump up his score even if he doesn't improve in any way.Whereas Bisiaux, Del Grosso or Vansevenant, none of whom I picked, actually have to make a step up in terms of level or consistency
