The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edition

[Red Rick]

Is that it then or are there still some races left?

 

[roundabout]

Re: The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edit

Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte-Kapellen is tomorrow. Kreder seems to be starting there

 

[TMP402]

Re:

Is that it then or are there still some races left?

Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte-Kapellen

Still about 20 race days left between the final five stages of the Tour of China II, Chrono des Nations, Japan Cup, Tour of Hainan and finally the Tour of Taihu Lake.

 

[TMP402]

Re: The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edit

Nationale Sluitingprijs - Putte-Kapellen is tomorrow. Kreder seems to be starting there

van Asbroeck, van Staeyen and van der Sande are all starting too. de Busschere has won it the last two years I think so Soudal should be working for him and have a pretty good team. No Benoot, Marcato or Guldhammer sadly so Kreder is well positioned for this race.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Van Asbroeck climbs to 19.

 

[TMP402]

Oh wow, Kreder finished in a group 7 seconds back!

 

[classicomano]

Disappointing result by Kreder, guess the spoils will have to be shared then.

 

[quiqui]

Re: The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edit

Thanks for that! Do you know the ranking for the previous years because I believe that Rojas reached 35 top 10s without a win in 2010.
And a more technical question. How are you doing your rankings? Is it manually or you're connecting to the cranking database through the API or some other way?

My own database, but it only covers this year, so I don't know about previous years.

 

[quiqui]

It looks likely that Kreder and Marcato will share the top spot, but it's still too early to call officially. Of those in the list, Andriy Kulyk is currently riding the Tour of China II and he moved up to 12 now. Agnoli and Mancebo are down for the Tour of Hainan, but startlists for both Hainan and Taihu are not yet complete, so it's hard to know who else might move up.

 

[Brullnux]

Re:

It looks likely that Kreder and Marcato will share the top spot, but it's still too early to call officially. Of those in the list, Andriy Kulyk is currently riding the Tour of China II and he moved up to 12 now. Agnoli and Mancebo are down for the Tour of Hainan, but startlists for both Hainan and Taihu are not yet complete, so it's hard to know who else might move up.

We should break any tie with whoever has the most podium places

 

[quiqui]

Re: Re:

We should break any tie with whoever has the most podium places

In that case, Marcato will probably win. He has four podium places against three for Kreder. This is the breakdown of positions from second to tenth for the top four riders:
Marcato: 3-1-1-4-3-3-1-3-3
Kreder: 1-2-3-2-6-2-4-2-0
Benoot: 2-1-3-2-5-2-5-1-0
Guldhammer: 1-0-6-5-2-2-1-2-2

 

[quiqui]

It's quite amazing Guldhammer has only one podium out of his 21 top tens. The rider with the most top tens and no podium place at all is Marco Canola on 12, followed by Robert Gesink on 11.

In case you're wondering who of the winless riders has the most podium places: it's a tie between a lot of riders with 5 podium finishes.
5 - J Roelandts, R. Torres, T. Machado, T. Voeckler, M. Mugerli, Sy. Chavanel, T. Sprengers.

Of these, Torres has the most second places (4).

 

[quiqui]

Leaving the realm of the winless riders for a moment, any guesses as to who has the most top tens out of all riders?
50 - P. Sagan
47 - A. Kristoff
44 - A. Valverde

And most second places? You guessed it... Sagan by a mile
17 - P. Sagan
10 - C. Ewan
8 - B. Coquard

 

[roundabout]

Re: The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edit

After 6 top10 finishes and a top10 on GC in the Tour of China II Kulyk is up to 17.

And there are 9 stages in the Tour of Taihu Lake which Kolss is scheduled to ride.

Looks like tie-breaker may not be needed.

 

[quiqui]

Actually Kulyk is on 18. I missed one of his top tens earlier due to a mistake in the results of stage 10 of Qinghai Lake. 16 of his 18 top tens come from stage races in China (Tour of Qinghai Lake, Tour of China I, Tour of China II). He will only need four more top tens, because he has more podium finishes than Kreder and Marcato.

22 - R. Kreder, M. Marcato
21 - R. Guldhammer, T. Benoot
19 - B. Planckaert, T. Van Asbroeck
18 - A. Kulyk
17 - M. Zanotti, A. Tsatevich
16 - S. Kruijswijk, J. Roelandts
15 - J. Fuglsang, A. Demoitie, R. Torres, M. Van Staeyen, S. Ponzi
14 - M. Cort Nielsen, T. Machado, F. Vachon
13 - F. Mancebo, N. Ruffoni, R. Barbier, J. Simon, R. Fernandez, J. Hivert
12 - D. Ratto, A. Zargari, S. Yates, D. Martin, S. Vanmarcke, M. Nieve, M. Canola
11 - D. Appollonio, D. Caruso, E. Sanz, T. Farrar, D. Smith, P. Serry, R. Gesink, M. Rubiano, T. Voeckler, E. Grosu, T. Dupont, M. Mugerli, R. Selig, E. Pinto, D. Cunego, F. Pellizotti, T. Van der Sande
10 - N. Haas, R. Janse van Rensburg, L. Bertazzo, A. Marque, J. Arredondo, N. Edet, Sy. Chavanel, A. Fonseca, S. Lagutin, G. Ciolek, K. Reza, E. Gasparotto, B. Vallee, T. Sprengers, P. Konrad, S. Rosetto, B. Shpilevsky
9 - V. Agnoli, B. Giraud, A. Porsev, A. Blythe, J. Mareczko, H. Alizadeh, V. Campenaerts, M. Pedersen, M. Valgren, A. Andersen, J. Brandao, H. Duyn, G. Izagirre, O. Doull, M. Kolar, A. Parrinello, D. Oss, S. Kuroeda
8 - S. Clarke, J. McCarthy, M. Scarponi, M. Elmiger, M. Frank, D. Teuns, A. Vichot, J. Mendes, R. Maikin, A. Capiot, A. Looij, E. Avila, M. Kudus, G. Visconti, A. Viola

 

[quiqui]

Given that the Tour of Hainan and the Tour of Taihu Lake are the only two races remaining, and given the start lists of these races, I think we can now definitively announce the ProTour rider with the most top tens but no win: Tiesj Benoot. Not bad for a first-year pro.

 

[quiqui]

Grosu got three out of three so far in Hainan and has moved up to 14. His team is not doing Taihu Lake though, so he won't make it to 22. Mareczko has moved up to 10 and is apparently also doing Taihu Lake, so he still has a theoretical chance to win.

 

[TMP402]

Giraud won in Hainan.

 

[Ricco']

Kuba out!!

 

[del1962]

Fabio Silvestre has moved onto 10 after 6 top tens in Hainan

 

[quiqui]

Now only the Tour of Taihu Lake is remaining. I don't know the start list of that race yet, but the teams of Kulyk, Zanotti, Ponzi and Mancebo are riding, so those riders still have a chance to win.

22 - R. Kreder, M. Marcato
21 - R. Guldhammer, T. Benoot
19 - B. Planckaert, T. Van Asbroeck
18 - A. Kulyk, E. Grosu
17 - M. Zanotti, A. Tsatevich
16 - S. Kruijswijk, J. Roelandts
15 - J. Fuglsang, A. Demoitie, R. Torres, M. Van Staeyen, S. Ponzi
14 - M. Cort Nielsen, T. Machado, F. Vachon, F. Mancebo
13 - N. Ruffoni, R. Barbier, J. Simon, R. Fernandez, J. Hivert
12 - D. Ratto, A. Zargari, S. Yates, D. Martin, S. Vanmarcke, M. Nieve, M. Canola
11 - D. Appollonio, D. Caruso, E. Sanz, T. Farrar, D. Smith, P. Serry, R. Gesink, M. Rubiano, T. Voeckler, T. Dupont, M. Mugerli, R. Selig, E. Pinto, D. Cunego, F. Pellizotti, T. Van der Sande, F. Silvestre
10 - N. Haas, R. Janse van Rensburg, L. Bertazzo, A. Marque, J. Arredondo, N. Edet, Sy. Chavanel, A. Fonseca, S. Lagutin, G. Ciolek, K. Reza, E. Gasparotto, B. Vallee, T. Sprengers, P. Konrad, S. Rosetto, B. Shpilevsky
9 - V. Agnoli, A. Porsev, A. Blythe, H. Alizadeh, V. Campenaerts, M. Pedersen, M. Valgren, A. Andersen, J. Brandao, H. Duyn, G. Izagirre, O. Doull, M. Kolar, A. Parrinello, D. Oss, S. Kuroeda, M. Verschoor, J. El Fares, F. Gavazzi, A. Phelan
8 - S. Clarke, J. McCarthy, M. Scarponi, M. Elmiger, M. Frank, D. Teuns, A. Vichot, J. Mendes, R. Maikin, A. Capiot, A. Looij, E. Avila, M. Kudus, G. Visconti, A. Viola, T. Vaitkus, E. Siskevicius

 

[quiqui]

Since no ProTour teams are at the start of the Tour of Taihu Lake, we can show the final ranking of ProTour riders only. I have added some subjective selection of "prominent" riders with seven top tens or less and no win, but not all since there are too many to list. Some of those at the bottom have had a season to soon forget.

21 - T. Benoot
19 - T. Van Asbroeck
17 - A. Tsatevich
16 - S. Kruijswijk, J. Roelandts
15 - J. Fuglsang
14 - M. Cort Nielsen, T. Machado
13 - R. Fernandez
12 - S. Yates, D. Martin, S. Vanmarcke, M. Nieve
11 - D. Caruso, E. Sanz, P. Serry, R. Gesink, R. Selig, T. Van der Sande, F. Silvestre
10 - N. Haas, J. Arredondo, Sy. Chavanel, S. Lagutin, K. Reza, B. Vallee
9 - V. Agnoli, A. Porsev, A. Blythe, M. Valgren, G. Izagirre, M. Kolar, D. Oss
8 - S. Clarke, J. McCarthy, M. Scarponi, M. Elmiger, M. Frank, D. Teuns, A. Vichot, G. Visconti
7 - R. Hesjedal, S. Turgot, A. Grivko, D. Van Baarle, M. Renshaw, ...
6 - D. Cataldo, L. Durbridge, W. Anacona, W. Barguil, A. Moinard, ...
5 - C. Evans, D. Gaudin, K. Siutsou, S. Devolder, T. Kangert, S. Sanchez, L. Bak, F. Pozzato, A. Amador, ...
4 - C. Betancur, B. Bozic, J. Pantano, C. Riblon, M. Rogers, A. Hansen, M. Monfort, S. Gerrans, R. Ferrari, Seb. Henao, ...
3 - P. Niemiec, G. Caruso, J. Sergent, S. Clement, J. Bauer, C. Sutton, M. Burghardt, T. De Gendt, M. Cherel, R. Nocentini, H. Zubeldia, ...
2 - T. Danielson, P. Weening, E. Vorganov, J. Gadret, J. Vanendert, L. Craddock, M. Mohoric, ...
1 - L. Westra, J. Serpa, L. Mondory, J. Pineau, D. Pate, L. Ten Dam, M. Velits, R. Kiserlovski, L. Howard, ...
0 - A. Kolobnev, S. Langeveld, I. Basso, P. Velits, G. Steegmans, E. Petrov, S. Paulinho, O. Zaugg, K. Koren, J. Vansummeren, B. Kadri, S. Tuft, M. Hayman, ...

 

[quiqui]

This season, there have been 31 riders who have scored more than 22 top tens. Here's the full list, with number of wins in brackets.

50 - P. Sagan (10)
47 - A. Kristoff (20)
44 - A. Valverde (8)
38 - E. Boasson Hagen (5), E. Theuns (3)
36 - N. Bouhanni (11)
35 - G. Van Avermaet (4)
32 - A. Greipel (16)
31 - S. Modolo (6)
30 - B. Coquard (4), K. Sbaragli (1)
29 - F. Aru (3), N. Quintana (2)
28 - J. Degenkolb (6), A. Contador (4)
27 - R. Jans (1)
26 - T. Pinot (5), P. Gilbert (4), D. Van Poppel (4), J. Rojas (1)
25 - M. Cavendish (14), C. Ewan (11), A. Guardini (8), C. Froome (7), J. Rodriguez (6), J. Debusschere (4), D. Moreno (1)
24 - D. Pozzovivo (2), B. Bookwalter (1)
23 - F. Felline (3), Y. Hutarovich (3)

 

[Jagartrott]

50 top 10s in one season is pretty amazing.

 

[Tonton]

Re: The Amazing Race to Most Top10 Without a win - 2015 Edit

I'd like to see what Merckx's stats year by year would look like in that format: 100 (50) or something like that? From that list, Sagan yes, impressive, but Valverde 44, wow!