The Andrea Bagioli Thread - Just In Case The Other Bag Thread Ever Gets Full

[triley36]

I’m skeptical that he can be competitive in the upcoming hilly classics with so little racing in his legs. Here is to hoping my skepticism is unwarranted.

 

[Oliver]

He's out with a knee injury and needs surgery...

 

[SafeBet]

He's out with a knee injury and needs surgery...

He has already undergone surgery, which was successful.
Now 3 weeks without the bike. Should start training outside by mid May.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That explains a few things. That's most of his season gone.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1382964772426166272

View: https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1382964772426166272?s=19

 

[triley36]

Really disappointed in this news, but certainly the writing was on the wall. Hopefully he can have some success in the late summer and fall, but certainly the races that suit his characteristics best will have passed by the time he is healthy.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Really disappointed in this news, but certainly the writing was on the wall. Hopefully he can have some success in the late summer and fall, but certainly the races that suit his characteristics best will have passed by the time he is healthy.

I guess he can still do the Vuelta along with Vansevenant, and possibly Almeida and Evenepoel. And... Jakobsen

 

[triley36]

Any word on what his status is? He made a brief return, but now isn’t on the start list for Denmark, Poland or the Vuelta? I’m assuming a medical setback? Was really banking on him in the CQ game. That has not gone well…

 

[RedheadDane]

I guess he can still do the Vuelta along with Vansevenant, and possibly Almeida and Evenepoel. And... Jakobsen

I know it's the "wrong rider", but I like how back then this was - probably? - a wild dream, now it's reality.

 

[SafeBet]

Any word on what his status is? He made a brief return, but now isn’t on the start list for Denmark, Poland or the Vuelta? I’m assuming a medical setback? Was really banking on him in the CQ game. That has not gone well…

He'll ride the Vuelta.

 

[SafeBet]

Getting closer and closer to that big win. A few more opportunities in this Vuelta if he gets in the right break.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Apparently he's also on the list for the WC, that should be a great learning experience for him.
I hope that he won't just be a domestique for Remco in the Italian Autumn classics. Remco has to attack from further out because of his lack of a sprint while Bagioli marks his opponents in the group behind and is the main guy if it all comes together. Then you also have Almeida, who is leaving. According to la Gazzetta Bagioli signing a new contract at DQ is pretty much a done deal, so I could see him and Remco being higher up on the pecking order.

 

[ciranda]

Honoré too for those races, he's quietly having a great year. Looks like DQS could start with a lot of options like in the Northern classics.

 

[SafeBet]

Apparently he's also on the list for the WC, that should be a great learning experience for him.

A spot just freed up with Bettiol announcing that his season's over. Trentin, Moscon and Colbrelli are 100% in. I'd take Nizzolo and Ganna as well. Ballerini would be a good card to play but his shape is a question mark.
So yeah I think bringing Bagioli (and Covi) would be sensible, if anything as a learning experience for future selections.

 

[Mayomaniac]

A spot just freed up with Bettiol announcing that his season's over. Trentin, Moscon and Colbrelli are 100% in. I'd take Nizzolo and Ganna as well. Ballerini would be a good card to play but his shape is a question mark.
So yeah I think bringing Bagioli (and Covi) would be sensible, if anything as a learning experience for future selections.

I don't know if the route suits Covi, I'd consider bringing Zoccarato as a learning experience. He doesn't get to race a lot in the North with Bardiani, but has shown that those kind of races suit him. I also think that he deserves to ride the WC or the EC after his great performance at the Italian NC.

 

[SafeBet]

I don't know if the route suits Covi, I'd consider bringing Zoccarato as a learning experience. He doesn't get to race a lot in the North with Bardiani, but has shown that those kind of races suit him. I also think that he deserves to ride the WC or the EC after his great performance at the Italian NC.

I believe Covi is quite explosive and likes riding on rough terrain. He was second in the Montalcino stage at the Giro and I remember him doing well in last year's Brabantse Pijl and the Kapelmuur stage in BinckBank. He's not as fast on the line as Bagioli, but he's no Formolo either.
I love Zoccarato but I'm afraid he's bit behind in the talent department at the moment. A couple of years in a Belgian PCT team would sure help him develop further.

Back to Bagioli: he seems to struggle a lot on long climbs and he lacks recovery. He can probably become a very good stage hunter and one day racer though. Best case scenario: Alaphilippe?

 

[tobydawq]

You don't send people to the WCRR to learn!

 

[SafeBet]

You don't send people to the WCRR to learn!

They'd be of greater value as domestiques than most other options available.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I believe Covi is quite explosive and likes riding on rough terrain. He was second in the Montalcino stage at the Giro and I remember him doing well in last year's Brabantse Pijl and the Kapelmuur stage in BinckBank. He's not as fast on the line as Bagioli, but he's no Formolo either.
I love Zoccarato but I'm afraid he's bit behind in the talent department at the moment. A couple of years in a Belgian PCT team would sure help him develop further.

Back to Bagioli: he seems to struggle a lot on long climbs and he lacks recovery. He can probably become a very good stage hunter and one day racer though. Best case scenario: Alaphilippe?

Yeah, he strikes me a lot more as a one day racer/stage hunter type of guy, shorter stage races with an Itt and shorter climbs should also suit him. I'm curious to see how he handles the distance, I hope that he's not just another Ulissi (who is still a very good rider).

 

[tobydawq]

They'd be of greater value as domestiques than most other options available.

Yes, then that is what their role is. And learning is a bi-product.

 

[SafeBet]

Yeah, he strikes me a lot more as a one day racer/stage hunter type of guy, shorter stage races with an Itt and shorter climbs should also suit him. I'm curious to see how he handles the distance, I hope that he's not just another Ulissi (who is still a very good rider).

From what I've seen Bagioli is already a better bike handler than Ulissi and he's not afraid to navigate the peloton to find the right wheel for a sprint. Endurance will determine if he can be a factor in Monuments / other big one day races.

 

[Nirvana]

Apparently he's also on the list for the WC, that should be a great learning experience for him.
I hope that he won't just be a domestique for Remco in the Italian Autumn classics. Remco has to attack from further out because of his lack of a sprint while Bagioli marks his opponents in the group behind and is the main guy if it all comes together. Then you also have Almeida, who is leaving. According to la Gazzetta Bagioli signing a new contract at DQ is pretty much a done deal, so I could see him and Remco being higher up on the pecking order.

Are you sure for the Worlds? They just released the selection for the European Championship a couple of days ago, i don't think we are going to see the Worlds selection until after that race and half of the list will probably be different.

 

[SafeBet]

Not the best start of the season for Bagioli.
Crashed in Saudi and couldn't get a good GC result. Now tests positive for COVID and will miss Ruta del Sol.

 

[triley36]

Not the best start of the season for Bagioli.
Crashed in Saudi and couldn't get a good GC result. Now tests positive for COVID and will miss Ruta del Sol.

How disappointing. Second straight year his season has been derailed early on. Also disappointing for me on a personal level as this is the second straight year his misfortune has hurt me in the CQ game!

 

[SafeBet]

So Dauphine was the first (?) time he could climb at a decent level on long climbs since turning pro. The missed stage win hurts but I'm sure he will have many other opportunities in the future.
Hasn't raced much this season because of illness but hopefully he can build on this performance and get a few wins in the second part of the season.

 

[gregrowlerson]

The Barb has tipped him.

Stage 13; it's in the bag boys.