The Aqua Blue Sport thread

[samhocking]

Was more about I'm suprised UCI issue the teams licence before payment for it and Anti-doping fees.

 

[Tim Booth]

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Was more about I'm suprised UCI issue the teams licence before payment for it and Anti-doping fees.

However, in the email to team personnel today Timmerman expressed his disappointment that some of the details around salary payment delays have emerged in the media.
“People need to realise that solving issues is not done through media, but by discussing, looking at facts and finding solutions. I truly hope I have clarified the facts and the current situation! In this type of environment, I can and will no longer work.
I will therefore with immediate effect stop working for Aqua Blue Sport. Therefore, consider this my last email to you all.
I wish you the best of luck in sorting things out together… UCI, riders and staff. No need to further contact me, as I will not be able to be of any assistance.”

No mention of not yet having paid for their licence and anti-doping fees.

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/aqua-blue-sport-salaries/

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

This is a really disgraceful end.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Given there is a breach of contract by one of your colleagues for slander and breach of confidentiality, legal proceedings are being pursued against this individual.

Holy cow, the thieves have started arresting the cops :lol: And they have the money for that

No need to further contact me, as I will not be able to be of any assistance

Another modern day Pontius Pilate

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Given there is a breach of contract by one of your colleagues for slander and breach of confidentiality, legal proceedings are being pursued against this individual.

Holy cow, the thieves have started arresting the cops :lol: And they have the money for that

No need to further contact me, as I will not be able to be of any assistance

Another modern day Pontius Pilate

Nice of Aqua Blue to publicly reveal the salaries of the riders,

What was the comment about breach of confidentiality again?

CN Link

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Isn’t “Rider N” on less than the PCT minimum wage?

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Isn’t “Rider N” on less than the PCT minimum wage?

Brammeier retired in August, so he's probably B. Dunbar signed for Sky immediately, they could be splitting the salary.

 

[search]

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Isn’t “Rider N” on less than the PCT minimum wage?

Brammeier retired in August, so he's probably B. Dunbar signed for Sky immediately, they could be splitting the salary.

or the other way around. You are required to have at least 16 riders as a PCT team, so maybe they kept him on the payroll to fulfill that criteria.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Isn’t “Rider N” on less than the PCT minimum wage?

Brammeier retired in August, so he's probably B. Dunbar signed for Sky immediately, they could be splitting the salary.

or the other way around. You are required to have at least 16 riders as a PCT team, so maybe they kept him on the payroll to fulfill that criteria.

Good point, well made

 

[jmdirt]

The (now resigned) boss wants the riders to be grateful...WTF?!

 

[samhocking]

I think there should be some credit for Timmerman. He's the Dutch CEO of Dutch Breweries (Orangeboom etc) so it would have been easy for him to just walk-away a long time ago, he has a very well paid day job anyway. I guess Timmerman entered the team pretty late this year in order to help negotiate with Sniper Cycling, but assume he's bought Aqua Blue infrastructure perhaps and so handled the paperwork side once Delaney walked out. Interesting that the team was funded out of Delaney's own pocket in the end, although isn't most teams lol!

 

[fmk_RoI]

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I think there should be some credit for Timmerman. He's the Dutch CEO of Dutch Breweries (Orangeboom etc) so it would have been easy for him to just walk-away a long time ago

A long time ago Sam? His appointment was announced in August. Which is hardly a long time ago. And he was announced as ex-CEO of United Dutch Breweries. Do you have an allergy to facts or are you just so used to bluffing and blustering your way through things that you just don't care?

 

[Midnightfright]

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I think there should be some credit for Timmerman. He's the Dutch CEO of Dutch Breweries (Orangeboom etc) so it would have been easy for him to just walk-away a long time ago

A long time ago Sam? His appointment was announced in August. Which is hardly a long time ago. And he was announced as ex-CEO of United Dutch Breweries. Do you have an allergy to facts or are you just so used to bluffing and blustering your way through things that you just don't care?

I hate to butt in or take sides but I think you are reading far more into the comment than you should

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

I think there should be some credit for Timmerman. He's the Dutch CEO of Dutch Breweries (Orangeboom etc) so it would have been easy for him to just walk-away a long time ago

A long time ago Sam? His appointment was announced in August. Which is hardly a long time ago. And he was announced as ex-CEO of United Dutch Breweries. Do you have an allergy to facts or are you just so used to bluffing and blustering your way through things that you just don't care?

I hate to butt in or take sides but I think you are reading far more into the comment than you should

Yeah, I get you, looking for truth in one of Sam's posts is a silly idea...

 

[Leinster]

Conor Dunne has signed for Israel Cycling Academy. Possible Giro ride for him then? They’ll want to bring guys who can get into breaks.

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Conor Dunne has signed for Israel Cycling Academy. Possible Giro ride for him then? They’ll want to bring guys who can get into breaks.

From the playpen of one millionaire to the playpen of another. The boy does know how to pick 'em...