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Worth noting that print media is in massive decline in the UK, no wonder all the journalists have sold their souls to protect their employment with "PR-generated oven ready copy";
https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/may/27/suddenly-national-newspapers-are-heading-for-that-print-cliff-fall
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/apr/10/national-daily-newspapers-lose-more-than-half-a-million-readers-in-past-year
No wonder Walsh is trying to cash in whilst he can... ships ahoy!
https://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2016/may/27/suddenly-national-newspapers-are-heading-for-that-print-cliff-fall
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/apr/10/national-daily-newspapers-lose-more-than-half-a-million-readers-in-past-year
No wonder Walsh is trying to cash in whilst he can... ships ahoy!
In case you missed Syed's screed when it was un-paywalled, Tucker responds, quoting it in full
http://sportsscientists.com/2016/07/fixed-matthew-syed-dismissal-whistleblower-fears/
http://sportsscientists.com/2016/07/fixed-matthew-syed-dismissal-whistleblower-fears/
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Well Walsh does work on a cruise ship now... so yes, pardon the pun, he has seen the iceberg! :lol:
Benotti69 said:
Well Walsh does work on a cruise ship now... so yes, pardon the pun, he has seen the iceberg! :lol:
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But the implication that it's about the colour of one's passport is erroneous. Walsh has always had a thing for doctors. Call it a faith in a form of pseudoscience. If doctors tell him something is good, he wants to believe in their goodness.
Digger said:
But the implication that it's about the colour of one's passport is erroneous. Walsh has always had a thing for doctors. Call it a faith in a form of pseudoscience. If doctors tell him something is good, he wants to believe in their goodness.
One hand washes the other, like it has always been.
I stopped annoying to 'journalists' a while ago when I discovered I know so much more about the sport, and the dopings off course, then people who are being payed to write about it.
I can only smile when I read toilet reading material by the Walshes, Gallaghers, Hoods, Neill whats his name.
I only sometimes like pieces of Shane the Irish bloke to be frank.
I stopped annoying to 'journalists' a while ago when I discovered I know so much more about the sport, and the dopings off course, then people who are being payed to write about it.
I can only smile when I read toilet reading material by the Walshes, Gallaghers, Hoods, Neill whats his name.
I only sometimes like pieces of Shane the Irish bloke to be frank.
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you wrote a piece a good bit ago along the lines of walsh hasn't changed in his stance on sky - it was actually his stance on lance which was the exception - you then went through walsh's pieces from the time of Kelly testing positive to now. Was an eye opener and well worth a read.
fmk_RoI said:
you wrote a piece a good bit ago along the lines of walsh hasn't changed in his stance on sky - it was actually his stance on lance which was the exception - you then went through walsh's pieces from the time of Kelly testing positive to now. Was an eye opener and well worth a read.
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That was not about Sky. It was written before The Fall, when people round here turned on anyone who criticised Walsh and accused them of being a stooge for Lance Armstrong.
Digger said:
That was not about Sky. It was written before The Fall, when people round here turned on anyone who criticised Walsh and accused them of being a stooge for Lance Armstrong.
Matthew Syed's a "member of the FA’s High Performance Committee alongside Sir Dave Brailsford". Conflict of interest.
Ross Tucker now with a response to an email from Syed.
Absolutely brilliant from Ross.
Subtly exposing Syed as a fraudulous soldout cheerleader, without using those words of course, but inequivocally nonetheless.
Big respect.
Syed getting his pants pulled down.
Knock out in the second round.
Absolutely brilliant from Ross.
Subtly exposing Syed as a fraudulous soldout cheerleader, without using those words of course, but inequivocally nonetheless.
Big respect.
Syed getting his pants pulled down.
Knock out in the second round.
You know, there is cheerleading on both sides of the debate. It's just that we tend to overlook the cheerleaders in our own ranks.
Question: what's the take on journalists writing rider's autobiographies and still commenting on that rider? Some who do write these books make a thing of not talking about that rider, others have no such qualms. Should they have to disclose their relationship whenever they write about the rider?
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imo, yes, they shuold either (a) disclose their relationship when they write about the athlete in question or (b) not write about the athlete in question. In fact that should be obvious. But the ethical standards in present-day journalism are so incredibly low that it's not obvious.
Compared to average scientific writings (that's excluding pseudo...i mean sports science), ethical standards in sports journalism are practically non-existent.
it's a good question.fmk_RoI said:
imo, yes, they shuold either (a) disclose their relationship when they write about the athlete in question or (b) not write about the athlete in question. In fact that should be obvious. But the ethical standards in present-day journalism are so incredibly low that it's not obvious.
Compared to average scientific writings (that's excluding pseudo...i mean sports science), ethical standards in sports journalism are practically non-existent.
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No. This - "both sides are equal" stuff won't fly here.
First of all, both sides cannot be right. Either doping is really powerful, or it isn't and any nobody can ride faster clean than on EPO just by "focusing" and "training harder".
In any case, in the current doping in cycling debate, one group has plenty of people who are for free speech and are willing to debate and consider every view point. They consider every point of discussion, explain exactly why they believe what they believe
The other side has 0 people who are willing to have a debate. People like Brailsfraud, walsh flat out refuse anything but a monologue. That's the only discussion format which allows them to claim "we made cycling clean" "we train harder than anyone else" or "everyone is now accepting our point of view" unchallenged.
To compare people like Tucker with Walsh is dishonest
fmk_RoI said:
No. This - "both sides are equal" stuff won't fly here.
First of all, both sides cannot be right. Either doping is really powerful, or it isn't and any nobody can ride faster clean than on EPO just by "focusing" and "training harder".
In any case, in the current doping in cycling debate, one group has plenty of people who are for free speech and are willing to debate and consider every view point. They consider every point of discussion, explain exactly why they believe what they believe
The other side has 0 people who are willing to have a debate. People like Brailsfraud, walsh flat out refuse anything but a monologue. That's the only discussion format which allows them to claim "we made cycling clean" "we train harder than anyone else" or "everyone is now accepting our point of view" unchallenged.
To compare people like Tucker with Walsh is dishonest
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