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It's a difficult one. Like motorsport, you are never going to be able to fully remove danger from the sport; at the end of the day road cycling requires roads, which are used by traffic every day; traffic calming measures that are important to the everyday safety of drivers and pedestrians can become incredibly hazardous in the context of a bike race - e.g. Andrei Kivilev hitting the concrete bollard or the multitudes of road furniture crashes - as can safety measures like road drainage - e.g. Lambrecht hitting the concrete drain cover and van Vleuten's Rio crash in the guttering. The vast majority of these pass without incident, or at least without lasting damage, but they can't ever hope to make the entire course safe, only safer. I followed motorsports for many years, and in some formats (mostly endurance formats) still do, and sometimes you just know when an incident happens - Jeff Krosnoff, Greg Moore, Dan Wheldon - but other times drivers can be incredibly fortunate and emerge unscathed from horrific wrecks - Katherine Legge, Mark Webber, Peter Dumbreck. Other times, a crash looks comparatively innocuous but has the worst of consequences - Ashley Cooper is one I always remember, but Allan Simonsen to an extent too. Sometimes the most innocuous stretches of road can prove the most dangerous.spalco said:klintE said:The accident occurred on a pretty straight road
What a strange, unassuming place for an accident like this to take place.
Makes it even more tragic somehow. Heartbreaking.
Cycling is one of the last remaining genuinely dangerous sports; should give all of us some thought when riders complain about dangerous situations instead of dismissing their concerns in an egoistic way.
TomekA said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDsCNTAEYWI moment of crash recorded by spectator (not much can be seen but still)
Why? Each individual can decide for themselves whether or not they want to click on the link. In any case, you can't see Bjorg or much of anything really. I was just hoping to get an idea of how it might have occurred.Midnightfright said:TomekA said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDsCNTAEYWI moment of crash recorded by spectator (not much can be seen but still)
I'm not sure anyone needs to see this regardless of how much is visible. Might be worth just removing
Libertine Seguros said:[Snip]
Don't worry, you can't see anything even remotely graphic or sensitive in that video.spalco said:Libertine Seguros said:[Snip]
I agree, very thoughtful comment, thanks.
I just think tragic events like this should be used as an opportunity for fans to reflect on what we want from this sport. We want hard racing, yes, and action, but there can be a price to pay sometimes.
It doesn't directly relate to Lambrecht's death, because it seems this was really impossible to predict, but i think it should be considered anyway. The athletes aren't always the best judges of danger, especially in a sport that requires such a high degree of self-exploitation; so i think it's also up to us not to push them beyond the limits they are comfortable with.
And i also think spreading that video is in very bad taste. Anyone who saw Weylandt die never wants to see something like that again.
I think it really depends on from which angle you view it.Midnightfright said:TomekA said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDsCNTAEYWI moment of crash recorded by spectator (not much can be seen but still)
I'm not sure anyone needs to see this regardless of how much is visible. Might be worth just removing
Logic-is-your-friend said:If that's the case, yes. I've brought that up in the past, that this can not be a coincidence, regardless of it being true in this case or not.huge said:I've read rumours that it might have been a heart failure and that caused the accident.
Apparently something similar to what happened to Goolaarts during the 2018 PR
It is quite worrying to see that there have been 5 riders who died for heart failure in the last 5 years and they have all been either Dutch or from Belgium.
EDIT: i just read an article on Sporza, that suggests he died of his injuries. He rode into the ditch (i assume the one in the photo) and hit his head against the concrete part. Maybe he did get a stroke of some sort, but with this bad weather, and considering he only weighs 55 kg, maybe the wind played its part? (This is pure speculation on my part).