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Hum... the story doesn't really say which way she sang? :confused: I can assume but would like to see some solid statements.
 
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ElChingon said:
Hum... the story doesn't really say which way she sang? :confused: I can assume but would like to see some solid statements.

she'll have complained to the feds that during her time with lance there was no room in the fridge to store normal food.
 
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ElChingon said:
Hum... the story doesn't really say which way she sang? :confused: I can assume but would like to see some solid statements.

Feds to Sheryl: "During your time with Lance, did you share a fridge together?" "Would you be so kind as to draw us a detailed picture of what you would typically encounter upon opening said fridge?"
 
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sniper said:
Feds to Sheryl: "During your time with Lance, did you share a fridge together?" "Would you be so kind as to draw us a detailed picture of what you would typically encounter upon opening said fridge?"

Exactly, she could of just talked about the soy container's but not its content and she'd still be truthful.
 
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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."

William Congreve
 
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ElChingon said:
Exactly, she could of just talked about the soy container's but not its content and she'd still be truthful.

or maybe she sat there watching infusions and injections.
 
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ManInFull said:
I suspect that his ex-wife and ex-lovers all know the truth and decided that it wasn't worth it for them to "snitch" on Lance. They likely have direct knowledge of how vengeful Lance is when he's crossed.

Did any journalist ever ask them anything? Did they ever openly deny that Lance ever doped?

Not Lisa, Wonderboy's paid liars forced her to sign an NDA years ago.

You know you are doing too much bad **** if you have to have your old girlfriends sign NDA's
 
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Merckx index said:
Why? If she did see evidence of doping, why didn't she speak out then? At least Tyler, Floyd and the others were trying to keep their jobs. What was her excuse, particularly after the engagement was off?
If she sat on this evidence all along, for 6-7 years, I would think much less of her, not that i had much of an opinion one way or another before.


Fear? This whole time, everyone's been afraid of Lance and what he'll do. Founded or not, his entire circle of influence has been afraid of him. I imagine we'll find out soon enough, as RR has been spot on.
 
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sniper said:
Feds to Sheryl: "During your time with Lance, did you share a fridge together?" "Would you be so kind as to draw us a detailed picture of what you would typically encounter upon opening said fridge?"

Looking at photos of both Cheryl and Lance I wonder if they mixed thier vials. Lance may have botoxed his **** and Cheryl microdosed her cheeks. EPO might explain how she was strong enough to put up with the tour for so long.
 
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Ok - we now have a thread "Evidence - Links Only". Any conversation there will be deleted, except modest commentary that accompanies the link.

My intent is to transfer the existing posts, which contain evidence links, from this thread to that one. That way I can maintain some level of consistency on who gets the credit for posting the link. I can't get to this work for a day or so. If somebody else got started on it, my feelings would not be hurt.

Cheers;

hiero

:)
 
hiero2 said:
Ok - we now have a thread "Evidence - Links Only". Any conversation there will be deleted, except modest commentary that accompanies the link.

My intent is to transfer the existing posts, which contain evidence links, from this thread to that one. That way I can maintain some level of consistency on who gets the credit for posting the link. I can't get to this work for a day or so. If somebody else got started on it, my feelings would not be hurt.

Cheers;

hiero

:)

A good idea would be to have links posted in a disqussion thread. And in the links only thread post the links and a link to the post in the disqussion thread. Disqussion is often part of it, and after reading something in the link, I would love to be pointed to where the disqussion likely continues in the disqussion thread without having to wade through a likely looong disqussion thread.
 

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hiero2 said:
Ok - we now have a thread "Evidence - Links Only". Any conversation there will be deleted, except modest commentary that accompanies the link.

My intent is to transfer the existing posts, which contain evidence links, from this thread to that one. That way I can maintain some level of consistency on who gets the credit for posting the link. I can't get to this work for a day or so. If somebody else got started on it, my feelings would not be hurt.

Cheers;

hiero

:)

Hiero, great stuff.
 

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Race Radio said:
Is that a famous enough witness for you? :)

A bit more teasing with little to show?

Sheryl Crowe is a celebrity and a Lance-ex. She was interviewed by the Feds. There is no information that she said anything damning about Lance.
The is no indication that she is even part of the USADA case.

This kind of tabloid speculation has little to do with evidence. It undermines the discussion here and only lends more credence to the Lance PR machine.
 
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I agree Laura, but nothing would surprise me, after all
didnt the king of cancer awareness split with her just before she was due to have treatment for breast cancer?
 

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Irish2009 said:
I agree Laura, but nothing would surprise me, after all
didnt the king of cancer awareness split with her just before she was due to have treatment for breast cancer?

Yeah. He's a low life. For sure.

Sheryl probably told the truth. Whatever she knew.

There is not even a hint that this had anything to do with the USADA case.

Still it's all speculation and teasing, and at the end of the day it only plays into Lance's PR machine.
 
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LauraLyn said:
A bit more teasing with little to show?

Sheryl Crowe is a celebrity and a Lance-ex. She was interviewed by the Feds. There is no information that she said anything damning about Lance.
The is no indication that she is even part of the USADA case.

This kind of tabloid speculation has little to do with evidence. It undermines the discussion here and only lends more credence to the Lance PR machine.

Oh....of course, she never said anything to USADA:rolleyes:

Hey look, A Unicorn!
 
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LauraLyn said:
A bit more teasing with little to show?

Sheryl Crowe is a celebrity and a Lance-ex. She was interviewed by the Feds. There is no information that she said anything damning about Lance.
The is no indication that she is even part of the USADA case.

This kind of tabloid speculation has little to do with evidence. It undermines the discussion here and only lends more credence to the Lance PR machine.

More credence to the fact that she witnessed PEDs and doping no doubt.

I dont think Sheyl Crow si going to lie to Feds and I dont think she is going to lie to USADA after telling the Feds the truth.

The pr machine is working for those that blindly believe the myth but failing for those with an open mind.

If Crow's testimony is that of a witness to PEDs and their use it will be another cherry on the cake of evdience.
 

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Benotti69 said:
More credence to the fact that she witnessed PEDs and doping no doubt.

I dont think Sheyl Crow si going to lie to Feds and I dont think she is going to lie to USADA after telling the Feds the truth.

The pr machine is working for those that blindly believe the myth but failing for those with an open mind.

If Crow's testimony is that of a witness to PEDs and their use it will be another cherry on the cake of evidence.

There is no report that she witnessed anything. Only the mass media speculation and some rather low grade teasing.

We know today as much as we will ever know about Sheryl Crow's testimony. It doesn't amount to a whole hill of beans, let alone a cherry.

There will be no cherries, without a cake. And likely we will never see the cake.

Unicorns are the stuff of teasers. They simply are not real.
 
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LauraLyn said:
There is no report that she witnessed anything. Only the mass media speculation and some rather low grade teasing.

We know today as much as we will ever know about Sheryl Crow's testimony. It doesn't amount to a whole hill of beans, let alone a cherry.

There will be no cherries, without a cake. And likely we will never see the cake.

Unicorns are the stuff of teasers. They simply are not real.

Dont know how you figure we wont see the cake. We know all the ingredients.

Tyler has warmed the oven

It is coming.
 

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Benotti69 said:
Dont know how you figure we wont see the cake. We know all the ingredients.

Tyler has warmed the oven

It is coming.

People just don't get it. Lance's PR warmed the oven. And the oven is empty. And Lance loves it.

Court (arbitration) decisions are not about evidence. They are about innocence or guilt. Evidence is only provided in court (arbitration) rooms.

Keep waiting for your cake. Keep insisting it is coming. You are being played.

The decision is made. The evidence is no longer relevant.
 
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LauraLyn said:
People just don't get it. Lance's PR warmed the oven. And the oven is empty. And Lance loves it.

Court (arbitration) decisions are not about evidence. They are about innocence or guilt. Evidence is only provided in court (arbitration) rooms.

Keep waiting for your cake. Keep insisting it is coming. You are being played.

The decision is made. The evidence is no longer relevant.

I'm surprised to hear you think that Lance is over the worst of it, I'm more inclined to think it's only just beginning for him.

First of all with your interpretation of "evidence" a lot of that could come out if the Fed case is re-opened.

Secondly, in terms of "evidence" in the court of public opinion things are going to get a lot worse for him.

All casual cycling fans are going to turn on him once it comes out that big George was a witness and Sheryl Crow appeals to two completely different demographics.