hiero2 said:You guys are killing me this morning! Is that from the Kelly dictionary, like bonification?
Kelly is just anglicizing a French word: http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/bonification
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hiero2 said:You guys are killing me this morning! Is that from the Kelly dictionary, like bonification?
iZnoGouD said:he passed 500 tests and never tested positive
leave him alone plz
LauraLyn said:"The reason that mathematicians are not perceptive is that they do not see what is before them." - Pascal
Gnossos7 said:Would you please list each of these tests so that we can see the 500?
LauraLyn said:"The reason that mathematicians are not perceptive is that they do not see what is before them." - Pascal
the big ring said:This thread is about evidence, correct?
Some person is claiming "Indeed, in a few short months he (Armstrong) nearly wrecked the sport (triathlon)."
So in a thread about evidence, some wild and IMO ridiculous claim is made and I ask for evidence as to that claim. Something, anything, to back it up.
And you want me to provide evidence that it is an incorrect claim?
I don't have evidence that the sport of triathlon is not wrecked, but I'd be willing to bet that LA hasn't wrecked it in a few short months. He's not that important to them.
So much so that they had NO problem BANNING him from the sport instantly.
BANNING HIM. Say it with me. He is banninated.
Here is the evidence of his bannination from triathlon: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/06/14/sport/armstrong-doping-allegations/index.html
You can't wreck what you're banned from.
Here's a hint: I will no longer respond to LL posts, are they are typically OT and seek to muddy / dilute threads. I do not wish to pursue this line of dilution any further.
iZnoGouD said:this is a which hunt!
leave the man alone, he has done so many good things for the sport.
why do they acuse him now and not at the time?
doesn't make sense
86TDFWinner said:Im well aware.that wonderboy has been bannished from the sport. I was just wondering how one.can ask another for evidence of ones opinion? Again, no dog in this fight my friend, if you cant show that if given the chance & the right amount of time, that wonderboy couldnt mess up the sport, then how could you adk someone else for.evidence of what most people here already know:he wouldve. "bannishment" or not. He tried pulling the same **** in the triathlon, there's proof of that from 2009-now.
I actually enjoy everyone's posts here on th subject of douchrbag Wonderboy. Lets tfy sticking to the topic, & not personal feelings towards other posters? Makes this a great
Place to post, we're all here bc of our disdain for the ******y doper.
86TDFWinner said:What "so many good things for the sport" has he done actually, please explain?
Its not a "witch hunt" & NO ONE should feel sorry for "poor Lance". He brought all this on himself. You dont want to hear it, because you're obviously a Wonderboy fan & despite continuing MOUNTING evidence against the doper, you still think/believe he's innocent. Gimme a break. Did you think it was a "witch hunt".when they went after & banned:Contador or Landis? If you say no, you're a hypocrite who obviously cant have it both ways. So again, please share w/us all: what are all these "good things he's done for the sport"? Please DO NOT mention anything cancer/Livestrong related, as neither have any relation to what you've said. You're mentioning the sport of cycling, NOT anything else. We anxiously await your rebuttle.
MarkvW said:I still can't see how Armstrong "messed up" the sport of cycling, even though he was a protected frankencyclist.
The sport was undoubtedly a cesspool before Armstrong's domination (Festina, anyone) and it has continued to be a cesspool after Armstrong's domination.
I think that it is a myth to suggest that Armstrong ruined or messed up cycling. The myth is unhelpful because it suggests that there is somehow a "clean" aspect of pro cycling that would have existed, but for Armstrong.
If Austria Hun--I mean Armstrong--didn't exist, the UCI would have had to invent him.
Velodude said:Consistent success as a GC contender in road cycling can be attributed to amassing a strong team around that rider.
Not so with marathons or triathlons which are individual events.
But there were no team mates in those sports to support him that would have necessitated arrangements for him to enable them to partake PEDs to assist him.
Armstrong probably was racing in triathlons and marathons as doped to the gills as he was in road cycling. WTC altering the selection criteria for doping control in Panama on the run was obviously designed to benefit only one competitor.
Bicycle said:What is LA likely to do now? Is he going to challenge the USADA's decision?
MarkvW said:I still can't see how Armstrong "messed up" the sport of cycling, even though he was a protected frankencyclist.
The sport was undoubtedly a cesspool before Armstrong's domination (Festina, anyone) and it has continued to be a cesspool after Armstrong's domination.
I think that it is a myth to suggest that Armstrong ruined or messed up cycling. The myth is unhelpful because it suggests that there is somehow a "clean" aspect of pro cycling that would have existed, but for Armstrong.
If Austria Hun--I mean Armstrong--didn't exist, the UCI would have had to invent him.
iZnoGouD said:this is a which hunt!
leave the man alone, he has done so many good things for the sport.
why do they acuse him now and not at the time?
doesn't make sense
Glenn_Wilson said:Not so sure how doped he was but whatever concoction he was using for the Marathon ,,,,,,,he should ask for a refund./QUOTE]
Some how I don't think he still has the receipt.
Bicycle said:What is LA likely to do now? Is he going to challenge the USADA's decision?
86TDFWinner said:You do bring up valid points. I do think that the majority of the s%$# Lance is catching now, is for his unwavering denial of how he claims to have "never doped, despite being tested 956 times...blah blah blah".(I know it's not that many btw). He's brought all this on himself with his decade long denial. Yes, most/all of the cyclists during his era doped, but why should others go punished, and he does not? not far, especially considering the systematic doping scheme/system he himself concocted to "cheat the system" for HIS benefit? It's not fair, for the other riders caught up in the whole thing, ,nor the sport itself. he may not have been solely responsible for messing up the sport, but 1. he IS/WAS a huge contributor to it's downfall and where we are today. For that, he should be punished.
I haven't even brought up the deceit, lies, scamming involved with the 2. LiveStrong foundation & the millions of dollars he's duped out of it for his own personal use. Of course, this is just my opinion.
LauraLyn said:Lance does not have recourse to challenge the USADA decision. Once he refused to go to arbitration, he closed off legal avenues.
Indeed, he did quit. Probably even more than he realized.
86TDFWinner said:Yep. Lance got bad advice from his *ahem* lawyers & screwed himself. I think it's hilarious to see what he's done.
iZnoGouD said:he passed 500 tests and never tested positive
leave him alone plz
86TDFWinner said:Yep. Lance got bad advice from his *ahem* lawyers & screwed himself. I think it's hilarious to see what he's done.
Bicycle said:I think he knew exactly what he was doing. The last thing he wanted was to have to publicly contest the charges.
GotDropped said:Not sure it this is the right thread, so please forgive me if it is not... but according to the Spanish newspaper ABC, Sheryl Crow is suspected of supplying Armstrong with drugs!!!
http://bit.ly/UnkeQx
The translated version:
http://bit.ly/PX9Os6
I think this is getting a bit ridiculous!!