The Gianni Moscon Bandwagon Jumping Thread

[yaco]

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Question is whether Moscon will be allowed to develop at Sky
Seems to be that you can't be a serious rider till you are 27+

Like 26 year old Rowe?!

How long has Rowe been at Sky.

Fact is Sky don't allow young riders freedom.

That's not really a fact. In their first years Edmondson and Dombrowski were given freedom in races as big as TdS, also in Beijing; Boswell led them in Tour of Austria and Pro Challenge in his first year. Likewise Puccio in races like Tour of Luxembourg. Seb Henao was given complete freedom in THE GIRO as a neo pro. Moscon is quite clearly being given freedom in all sorts of races.

You are discussing minor races. Most riders are 25+ BEFORE they can compete at the highest level of WT but of course their are exceptions. It's this small group of riders that aren't suited to Sky. You go to Sky when you are the finished article or close to it.

 

[Cannibal72]

I think Moscon's results this cobbled season show he's one of those riders who can perform at that kind of level relatively young (not as small a pool as you suggest; anyway, surely the riders that aren't suited to Sky because they're too good too young are by definition close to the finished article. I don't understand your argument.) Sky don't have much experience with neo-pros who come up from outside the British Cycling apparatus, but Astana seem even less promising for a young rider to me, and Superman Lopez seems to be coming on well.

 

[yaco]

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I think Moscon's results this cobbled season show he's one of those riders who can perform at that kind of level relatively young (not as small a pool as you suggest; anyway, surely the riders that aren't suited to Sky because they're too good too young are by definition close to the finished article. I don't understand your argument.) Sky don't have much experience with neo-pros who come up from outside the British Cycling apparatus, but Astana seem even less promising for a young rider to me, and Superman Lopez seems to be coming on well.

Look at it another way. Which young riders have Sky developed. It's limited but we will get a better idea in the next 5 years seeing Sky is still a new team.

 

[TMP402]

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I think Moscon's results this cobbled season show he's one of those riders who can perform at that kind of level relatively young (not as small a pool as you suggest; anyway, surely the riders that aren't suited to Sky because they're too good too young are by definition close to the finished article. I don't understand your argument.) Sky don't have much experience with neo-pros who come up from outside the British Cycling apparatus, but Astana seem even less promising for a young rider to me, and Superman Lopez seems to be coming on well.

Look at it another way. Which young riders have Sky developed. It's limited but we will get a better idea in the next 5 years seeing Sky is still a new team.

Arguably Froome...

 

[yaco]

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I think Moscon's results this cobbled season show he's one of those riders who can perform at that kind of level relatively young (not as small a pool as you suggest; anyway, surely the riders that aren't suited to Sky because they're too good too young are by definition close to the finished article. I don't understand your argument.) Sky don't have much experience with neo-pros who come up from outside the British Cycling apparatus, but Astana seem even less promising for a young rider to me, and Superman Lopez seems to be coming on well.

Look at it another way. Which young riders have Sky developed. It's limited but we will get a better idea in the next 5 years seeing Sky is still a new team.

Arguably Froome...

Froome had been in the peloton for 3 0r 4 years before he joined Sky.

 

[del1962]

Look at it another way. Which young riders have Sky developed. It's limited but we will get a better idea in the next 5 years seeing Sky is still a new team.

Luke Rowe and Pete Kennaugh

Puccio

 

[staubsauger]

The tractor looks to be like a very sharp guy. He takes his responsibility now already, he handles the pressure already like at Settimana Internazionale. If he confirms this, it's totally irrelevant whether Sky is able to develop talents or not in the end.

I mean it's one thing to come up and be very good on a smaller team like Benoot did at Lotto. But Moscon just joined the arguably strongest team in the world as a benjamino and he surprisingly enough takes his duties now already, and lefts his mark now already.

Impressive!

 

[yaco]

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Look at it another way. Which young riders have Sky developed. It's limited but we will get a better idea in the next 5 years seeing Sky is still a new team.

Luke Rowe and Pete Kennaugh

Puccio

Jury is still out. We will find out in a few years.

 

[TMP402]

Interesting claim from Landa:

Although Landa did not deny that he is coming into the Giro del Trentino in GC form, he made note of his teammate Gianni Moscon as a potential threat as well.

“We go for the overall classification, maybe in the end Gianni Moscon will win,” Landa said.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-landa-will-win-giro-del-trentino/

 

[TMP402]

To be noticed on the cobbles and then ride a good GC in Trentino would put him up there with Benoot.

 

[jens_attacks]

It was said as a joke...

 

[TMP402]

Moscon is down to ride Yorkshire next, which makes me think it's unlikely he'll ride the Giro given how much work he will have done already with little downtime for a neo-pro.

 

[JRanton]

I'm well on board the train. His endurance is legit. Did a lot of work and was then still very strong in the final. Dare I say it but this guy looks like he could be competitive at all 5 monuments in the future.

 

[PunchingRouleur]

Super strong today. Probably most impressive all-around talent of new generation(maybe with Benoot).

 

[jens_attacks]

first non-belgian rider to win all the 5 monuments.

 

[Forever The Best]

Onto the train.

 

[Mr.White]

Huge talent. I hope Sky will not turn him into a some kind of a working horse, like they did with Boasson Hagen

 

[jsem94]

Huge talent, might have to leave Sky very soon to have a chance at realizing his full potential

 

[rick james]

or he might stay at Sky and win Paris Roubaix for them

 

[JRanton]

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Huge talent, might have to leave Sky very soon to have a chance at realizing his full potential

There is a much better chance to progress in Sky's classics group. Already on the cobbles he can be given a more protected role next year.

 

[staubsauger]

Gianni's stepping up now already. Sky Italia demands one Italian starlet at Sky anyway. Ain't gonna be surprised if he might co-lead at the Italian fall classics already. Like at Settimana Internazionale !

 

[May0maniac]

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Gianni's stepping up now already. Sky Italia demands one Italian starlet at Sky anyway. Ain't gonna be surprised if he might co-lead at the Italian fall classics already. Like at Settimana Internazionale !

I hope so.
Let's just hope that they won't send him to the Giro, he already has 30 racedays and he has been impressive since February, riding a hard gt right now as a neopro wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[yaco]

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Super strong today. Probably most impressive all-around talent of new generation(maybe with Benoot).

Like to see benoot win a race - Learning how to win is an important commodity for a cyclist.
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[del1962]

I wonder if it was Moscon that Tinkov was talking about when he said Sky where signing up future Talent

 

[JRanton]

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I wonder if it was Moscon that Tinkov was talking about when he said Sky where signing up future Talent

Pretty sure that was referring to the signings of Landa and Kwiatkowski. I can't see someone like Tinkov knowing a great deal about Moscon before he joined Sky.