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Unchained

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noob said:
I'd say Trek doesn't learn or his agents doesn't learn. Boy ain't fully grownup yet (literally). Really weirdly long contract.
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I agree100% and seeing what happened with Ayuso post Giro is completely mental issues. And to me what happened was insubordination and nearing breach of contract by young Juan. If I were Trek I would look at what already didn't work with Quinn Simmons filling his diaper at TDF having an almost tearful downpour about how team strategy was stupid in his opinion. Now you want to add hyper sensitive crybaby Juan Ayuso for five years! That's crazy.. Given his mood swings at Vuelta any team that would expose themselves to that possible volatility is crazy. If it was me( it's not) I would have significantly sweetened the deal for 12-24 months with higher salary and super, super aggressive bonus strategy. No way in God's green earth I would sign him on a verbal, handshake promise he will behave himself, act in control and professional for 5 years when he hasn't been able to do it for 5 weeks at a time..
 
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I agree100% and seeing what happened with Ayuso post Giro is completely mental issues. And to me what happened was insubordination and nearing breach of contract by young Juan. If I were Trek I would look at already didn't work with Quinn Simmons filling his diaper at TDF having an almost tearful downpour about how team strategy was stupid in his opinion. Now you want to add hyper sensitive crybaby Juan Ayuso for five years! That's crazy.. Given his mood swings at Vuelta any team that would expose themselves to that possible volatility is crazy. If it was me( it's not) I would have significantly sweetened the deal for 12-24 months with higher salary and super, super aggressive bonus strategy. No way in God's green earth I would sign him on a verbal, handshake promise he will behave himself, act in control and professional for 5 years when he hasn't been able to do it for 5 weeks at a time..
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Maybe he grows up, like Remco has done. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't call him a crybaby but that's because I never use "cry" as a negative word :) It's madness either way.
 
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Maybe he grows up, like Remco has done. I guess we'll see. I wouldn't call him a crybaby but that's because I never use "cry" as a negative word :) It's madness either way.
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It's an expression not a negative reference to the physical behavior.. I cry multiple times per week, run out of beer, ice cream, tequila, glue for patch kit, pizza left overs..bike races to watch and complain about.. I am in a constant state of flow..
You sound like a real optimist ..already seeing Remco as finished product. I see a rising Lipowitz, resilient Roglic and roaming Remco as a recipe for something explosive. And Rwanda will be a crazy predictor in my opinion.. If Remco rolls away with no rainbow.. I would hate to be his new teammate.
 
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Movitrain said:
According to Dan Benson, Pavel Novak (3rd at this years Next Gen Giro) will ride for Movistar from 2026 on. Interesting fit.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1968383712237949356
View: https://x.com/dnlbenson/status/1968383712237949356
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Novak's skillset would seem well suited to be honest. If you look at his career, he typically does best when the gradients are at their steepest. He's got some results on more gradual climbs, like Prato Nevoso and against the pros on Pasul Dichiu and Kékestető, but those are outnumbered amongst his best showings by stages featuring the likes of Clavalité, Prarostino, Pré Pascal, Champremier, Fosse and Passo Pura.
 
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I thought Jayco had a chance of getting Novak as he rode as a stagiare for the team in 2024. Jayco need more climbers.
 
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I thought Jayco had a chance of getting Novak as he rode as a stagiare for the team in 2024. Jayco need more climbers.
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I'm not really sure what their transfer strategy is.

They were linked with Fred Wright but he's went elsewhere, Benson has now linked them with Traeen, who would be a decent climber I suppose.

They've, at least for now, got Hamish McKenzie and Wil Holmes due to come on board in 2026, but neither have lit up the U23 ranks. McKenzie was due to join for 2025 but they wisely pushed that back a season as he just was not ready. Holmes is only a first year, so possibly they push him back to 2027, wouldn't be the worst thing.

Elsewhere on their HBA devo team, Adam Rafferty would be a very talented addition if they turn him pro. He can climb and TT, won a U23 Giro stage. They've been perpetually linked with Ben Wiggins too, who is very similar to McKenzie, some good TT results but has yet to show a lot in road races 2 years into his U23 career. Possibly final year U23 Fergus Browning, a decent rider.

It certainly feels like 2026 could be a down year for the team, losing a lot of key pieces and previous GT stage winners. But they still have good stage hunting options in Vendrame, Covi, Schmid and let's see how O'Connor gets on as a GC or stage hunter and the continual development of Plapp.
 
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JosephD said:
I'm not really sure what their transfer strategy is.

They were linked with Fred Wright but he's went elsewhere, Benson has now linked them with Traeen, who would be a decent climber I suppose.

They've, at least for now, got Hamish McKenzie and Wil Holmes due to come on board in 2026, but neither have lit up the U23 ranks. McKenzie was due to join for 2025 but they wisely pushed that back a season as he just was not ready. Holmes is only a first year, so possibly they push him back to 2027, wouldn't be the worst thing.

Elsewhere on their HBA devo team, Adam Rafferty would be a very talented addition if they turn him pro. He can climb and TT, won a U23 Giro stage. They've been perpetually linked with Ben Wiggins too, who is very similar to McKenzie, some good TT results but has yet to show a lot in road races 2 years into his U23 career. Possibly final year U23 Fergus Browning, a decent rider.

It certainly feels like 2026 could be a down year for the team, losing a lot of key pieces and previous GT stage winners. But they still have good stage hunting options in Vendrame, Covi, Schmid and let's see how O'Connor gets on as a GC or stage hunter and the continual development of Plapp.
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Coincidentally, they've just confirmed Amaury Capiot for 2026/2027
 
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JosephD said:
I'm not really sure what their transfer strategy is.

They were linked with Fred Wright but he's went elsewhere, Benson has now linked them with Traeen, who would be a decent climber I suppose.

They've, at least for now, got Hamish McKenzie and Wil Holmes due to come on board in 2026, but neither have lit up the U23 ranks. McKenzie was due to join for 2025 but they wisely pushed that back a season as he just was not ready. Holmes is only a first year, so possibly they push him back to 2027, wouldn't be the worst thing.

Elsewhere on their HBA devo team, Adam Rafferty would be a very talented addition if they turn him pro. He can climb and TT, won a U23 Giro stage. They've been perpetually linked with Ben Wiggins too, who is very similar to McKenzie, some good TT results but has yet to show a lot in road races 2 years into his U23 career. Possibly final year U23 Fergus Browning, a decent rider.

It certainly feels like 2026 could be a down year for the team, losing a lot of key pieces and previous GT stage winners. But they still have good stage hunting options in Vendrame, Covi, Schmid and let's see how O'Connor gets on as a GC or stage hunter and the continual development of Plapp.
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I think Ackermann is the one. Bling, Hepburn, Engelhardt, Foldager, De Pretto and O'Brien hopefully get retained as well, getting the roster up to 26 amongst the lot of them.

As I write this, Amaury Capiot signs with the team. I suspect the last 3 could be Wiggins, Drizners and maybe Rafferty. If that's our 30 , I'd have BOC at the Giro and Vuelta as a priority over the Tour, giving Ackermann basically a full lead out and maybe having Plapp and Bouwman as climbing stage hunters at the tour (with Schmid or Bling targeting the hillier, puncheur type stages).
 
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noob said:
I'd say Trek doesn't learn or his agents doesn't learn. Boy ain't fully grownup yet (literally). Really weirdly long contract.
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Or he thinks that a contract isn't really worth much anyway... after all he had a gazillion year contract on UAE as well. We don't know what's actually in the contract.
 
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Q36.5 getting: Wright, Gloag, Dunbar, Harper, with all the other riders I like. wow, Glasenberg really wants me to buy a Pinarello! (I won't) :sweatsmile:
 
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JosephD said:
I'm not really sure what their transfer strategy is.

They were linked with Fred Wright but he's went elsewhere, Benson has now linked them with Traeen, who would be a decent climber I suppose.

They've, at least for now, got Hamish McKenzie and Wil Holmes due to come on board in 2026, but neither have lit up the U23 ranks. McKenzie was due to join for 2025 but they wisely pushed that back a season as he just was not ready. Holmes is only a first year, so possibly they push him back to 2027, wouldn't be the worst thing.

Elsewhere on their HBA devo team, Adam Rafferty would be a very talented addition if they turn him pro. He can climb and TT, won a U23 Giro stage. They've been perpetually linked with Ben Wiggins too, who is very similar to McKenzie, some good TT results but has yet to show a lot in road races 2 years into his U23 career. Possibly final year U23 Fergus Browning, a decent rider.

It certainly feels like 2026 could be a down year for the team, losing a lot of key pieces and previous GT stage winners. But they still have good stage hunting options in Vendrame, Covi, Schmid and let's see how O'Connor gets on as a GC or stage hunter and the continual development of Plapp.
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I thought Rafferty was ready for the WT. They will have money in their budget for 2027 BUT they need their leaders in Matthews, Plapp, Schmid and O'Connor to have good years in 2026. And hope that riders like Vendrame, DeBondt can pick up results and their is more improvement from the like sof Foldager and Englehardt.
 
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Devil's Elbow said:
A sign they know they are going to have to focus on points to an extent to keep their WT license next cycle, which is at least much better than being caught off guard.
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Exactly. have posted for three years that Jayco needed to bolster their one day stocks, especially in the flatter classics. Realistically, they've not been WT level in this category.
 
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