Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

[Colonel]

Then what is your source?

Again; sure, it might be that it is indeed EF Costa has signed for, or it might not... we just don't know.

You always ask who the sources are from people, everyone knows you never name your source.
Unless it's Heinz.

 

[RedheadDane]

You always ask who the sources are from people, everyone knows you never name your source.
Unless it's Heinz.

Unlike you, I always include reputable sources when posting stuff. And by "reputable", I - of course - mean The Team, or The Rider.
I might - rarely - post something from another source, but then I pressume that everyone is aware that it is simply a rumour.

 

[Roku]

Thankfully people post "rumours", otherwise, the topic would be dull.

 

[RedheadDane]

Thankfully people post "rumours", otherwise, the topic would be dull.

Nothing wrong with rumours, just don't act like they're confirmed transfers.

Also weird that everyone - rightfully so - was dubious about the Uijtdebroeks-to-FDJ rumour, but acts as if this is fact.

 

[tobydawq]

Nothing wrong with rumours, just don't act like they're confirmed transfers.

Also weird that everyone - rightfully so - was dubious about the Uijtdebroeks-to-FDJ rumour, but acts as if this is fact.

And noone did in this instance.

Maybe people are capable of judging the validity of a rumour which is why your incessant policing of it is both infuriating, unnecessary and ridiculous.

 

[Salvarani]

That's a very un-EF-like transfer.

They have signed a lot of younger riders so far and a few older ones has left/not been renewed.

Costa showed he can still be competitive and win races this season. He adds experience and some guidance for the younger riders.

They will have a really good squad for hilly one-day races, if he has been signed.

 

[RedheadDane]

And noone did in this instance.

They literally did... which is why I edited those quotes to better reflect reality.

And no, I don't always do this - lots of rumours have been posted that I didn't say anything about - just frequently enough to remind people that there's a difference between rumours and confirmed.

They have signed a lot of younger riders so far and a few older ones has left/not been renewed.

I think this is why it would be a very un-EF-like transfer. If they're building a team for the future.

But anyway; all we know for now is that we don't know.

 

[Anderis]

FIFY.
Sure, it might indeed be that it's EF he's signed with, but nothing has been confirmed.

Using "would be" instead of "is" in my post should tell you that I don't need to be lectured on such things.

 

[Anderis]

They have signed a lot of younger riders so far and a few older ones has left/not been renewed.

Costa showed he can still be competitive and win races this season. He adds experience and some guidance for the younger riders.

They will have a really good squad for hilly one-day races, if he has been signed.

I would say thay will have a really good squad for hilly one-day races even if he has not been signed. That's where the most of their UCI points came from this year already.

But yeah, he is not a bad signing provided he doesn't decline too much compared to 2023 (which I fear is not a given at his age). Nonetheless, Vaughters very rarely signs near-retirement riders with big names (not counting contract extensions).

 

[RedheadDane]

Using "would be" instead of "is" in my post should tell you that I don't need to be lectured on such things.

"Would be": referring to something that's not confirmed.
"Is": referring to something that is confirmed.

So, yeah... I'd say I got it right.

Dunno how much you know about EB, but... it's not a reliable source!

 

[Salvarani]

I think this is why it would be a very un-EF-like transfer. If they're building a team for the future.

But anyway; all we know for now is that we don't know.

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They have signed older riders here and there too.

Even if there is a focus on singing younger riders with talent to develop, doesnt mean every signing will be.

It is about building a team both for the future as well as the here and now.

 

[Anderis]

"Would be": referring to something that's not confirmed.
"Is": referring to something that is confirmed.

So, yeah... I'd say I got it right.

Dunno how much you know about EB, but... it's not a reliable source!

Yeah, and I used "would be", which means I was aware that the thing is not confirmed. You don't need to quote me and "FIFY" me about that.

 

[Colonel]

Unlike you, I always include reputable sources when posting stuff. And by "reputable", I - of course - mean The Team, or The Rider.
I might - rarely - post something from another source, but then I pressume that everyone is aware that it is simply a rumour.

Unlike you, I always know way ahead of time (as per posting history) which in many cases is not public from a Team or The Rider.
My posts haven't been rumours.
They just seem to upset you if you dont have this info 1st if someone else posts it against your policy or progress.

See where info is coming from, learn to trust that poster as a valid or invalid source - wether it is transfers, race calendars or whatever and simply take that info and be happy. Like many I feel here do.

Be happy Red, forums are too small to get upset on.

 

[Colonel]

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They have signed older riders here and there too.

Even if there is a focus on singing younger riders with talent to develop, doesnt mean every signing will be.

It is about building a team both for the future as well as the here and now.

Young riders need older and experienced leaders to learn from.

Building for the future or not.

 

[Salvarani]

I would say thay will have a really good squad for hilly one-day races even if he has not been signed. That's where the most of their UCI points came from this year already.

But yeah, he is not a bad signing provided he doesn't decline too much compared to 2023 (which I fear is not a given at his age). Nonetheless, Vaughters very rarely signs near-retirement riders with big names (not counting contract extensions).

It is a bit much to ask he repeats his results from this year... anything could happen, even though Im sure they hope he provides them a few good results here and there.

I think if he has been signed, it is not just for results but also to be sort of a mentor to their younger riders. He has had a very long and successful career. His experience could probably be described as invaluable.

 

[Anderis]

I think if he has been signed, it is not just for results but also to be sort of a mentor to their younger riders. He has had a very long and successful career. His experience is invaluable.

I just thought that maybe they plan to give him a role in the team after he retires as a rider?

 

[RedheadDane]

Unlike you, I always know way ahead of time (as per posting history) which in many cases is not public from a Team or The Rider.
My posts haven't been rumours.
They just seem to upset you if you dont have this info 1st if someone else posts it against your policy or progress.

If it's not confirmed by Team or Rider, then it's a rumour. Unless you can come up with some term between actually confirmed and rumours. Besides; it's not actually hard to include a source.
Nothing wrong with others posting stuff. Lot's of people know how to include sources.

 

[Salvarani]

The Great Big Cycling Transfers and Rumours Thread.

 

[tobydawq]

Unlike you, I always know way ahead of time (as per posting history) which in many cases is not public from a Team or The Rider.
My posts haven't been rumours.
They just seem to upset you if you dont have this info 1st if someone else posts it against your policy or progress.

See where info is coming from, learn to trust that poster as a valid or invalid source - wether it is transfers, race calendars or whatever and simply take that info and be happy. Like many I feel here do.

Be happy Red, forums are too small to get upset on.

You always know every transfer ahead of time? That's a lot.

 

[RedheadDane]

The Great Big Cycling Transfers and Rumours Thread.

I have been thinking of some way to make it obvious in the title that of course confirmed transfers should include a source, or else they're likely to be considered with some doubt.
However, I just can't figure out a way to do so without having the title be too long. Edit: I guess it wasn't that hard...
And I just sort of assumed it was obvious that you should include a source.

You always know every transfer ahead of time? That's a lot.

He knew Charmig is going to Astana?

 

[yaco]

If it's not confirmed by Team or Rider, then it's a rumour. Unless you can come up with some term between actually confirmed and rumours. Besides; it's not actually hard to include a source.
Nothing wrong with others posting stuff. Lot's of people know how to include sources.

Posters who have inside information that is not ready to be publically released, will not reveal their source. This is common sense . Best if you leave this thread.

 

[RedheadDane]

Posters who have have inside information that is not ready to be publically released will not reveal their source. Best if you leave this thread.

Naah, I'll just consider that sort of stuff a rumour.
And then there are the people who post something that has indeed been confirmed, and still don't include the source.

 

[Colonel]

You always know every transfer ahead of time? That's a lot.

Definitely not every by a long way. Very little in comparison to the overall %

 

[Colonel]

If it's not confirmed by Team or Rider, then it's a rumour. Unless you can come up with some term between actually confirmed and rumours. Besides; it's not actually hard to include a source.
Nothing wrong with others posting stuff. Lot's of people know how to include sources.

I suppose this is why you not up to date on movements cause you would be naming your sources openly.

Sources dont like that often with this type of info.

 

[RedheadDane]

I suppose this is why you not up to date on movements cause you would be naming your sources openly.

Sources dont like that often with this type of info.

Pretty sure the teams don't have anything against people re-posting their announcements in random forums.