The greatest individual sporting lie?

[Ferminal]

I think the damage caused by that ball to the legs was severe, how else do you end up playing in Uzbekistan?

 

[Anonymous]

thinking of cancellara as its come up on the hincapie thread..

if fabian failed a test tommoro.. where would he stand in the lie list..? personally i think he would be right up there with the landis's

 

[BroDeal]

thinking of cancellara as its come up on the hincapie thread..

if fabian failed a test tommoro.. where would he stand in the lie list..? personally i think he would be right up there with the landis's

Nope. We all know that when a rider tests positive, he only gave into temptation that one time in a moment of weakness...and all his previous victories were achieved cleanly. This is called The Basso Effect.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

You are correct, the fraud though is that most people still only think of him as an Olympic hero, and clean, when it's obvious he cheated by doping in an effort to win, and got help from USOC in covering it up. But no, he didn't dope to the degree of EPO or blood doping.

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Carl Lewis? No, not at all. What he took? Kind of ephidrine? Where is the performance enhancing? He ran 10,00 at age of 20 to improve to 9,86 at best sports age. Ben Johnson was a anabolic monster coming from 10,7 down to 9,79.

The biggest fraud is any fixed/rigged game (far more worse then doping).
No. 2 Epo-Lance
No. 3 AC-Contradoper and Valv-Piti
No. 4 all else (Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Lyle Alzado etc.)
No. 100.000+ Jan Ullrich, because he is the biggest scapegoat in sports history while all others still or again are riding. Never was one sacrificed to cover up the rest. It´s still going on, just ugly.

 

[Anonymous]

Biggest sporting lie: NFL! If they had even half the testing procedures cycling had there'd be no one left to play the game.

 

[Escarabajo]

Biggest sporting lie: NFL! If they had even half the testing procedures cycling had there'd be no one left to play the game.

Having the tests is not the problem. It is not using them properly. In cycling there would be very few left as well IMHO.

 

[afpm90]

Carl Lewis? No, not at all. What he took? Kind of ephidrine? Where is the performance enhancing? He ran 10,00 at age of 20 to improve to 9,86 at best sports age. Ben Johnson was a anabolic monster coming from 10,7 down to 9,79.

The biggest fraud is any fixed/rigged game (far more worse then doping).
No. 2 Epo-Lance
No. 3 AC-Contradoper and Valv-Piti
No. 4 all else (Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Lyle Alzado etc.)
No. 100.000+ Jan Ullrich, because he is the biggest scapegoat in sports history while all others still or again are riding. Never was one sacrificed to cover up the rest. It´s still going on, just ugly.

I don't agree with that. I agree that, at the moment, he's a scapegoat, but certainly not the biggest, or even close to that.

He had a nice career, won many races and won a lot of money: he has a confortable life. The sacrifice is very small, when we compare him to riders like Bassons, Simeoni, Manzano and to a certain degree Khol and many others who have the talent and don't want to dope or don't have the possibility to access the "good" stuff.

 

[ak-zaaf]

No. 100.000+ Jan Ullrich, because he is the biggest scapegoat in sports history while all others still or again are riding. Never was one sacrificed to cover up the rest. It´s still going on, just ugly.

LOL, not even close. Not even in cycling.

Ulrich got away easy.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

I don't agree with that. I agree that, at the moment, he's a scapegoat, but certainly not the biggest, or even close to that.

He had a nice career, won many races and won a lot of money: he has a confortable life. The sacrifice is very small, when we compare him to riders like Bassons, Simeoni, Manzano and to a certain degree Khol and many others who have the talent and don't want to dope or don't have the possibility to access the "good" stuff.

1st of all he was beaten by the biggest doper of all time. ok, we can live with that since he doped himself (but it still cost him).

But he had to pay 250.000 euro to the law for nothing (while other countries cover up, as spain). Even worse is that the other dopers earn money while not even been sanctioned, but he was forced out of the sport by a german media hunt. So he is left alone without income, but has to feed a family. I would not like to change with him. I feel real sorry.

He is by far the biggest scapegoat ever. No one can dope up to a level where you win the TdF at 23 whith 9 minutes in front of other world class riders (and dopers, of course). Even Epo-Lance needed cancer to get free testosteron and other medicines to cheat out 7 TdF-wins. If i was Ullrich, i would run mad.

Ullrich might be only compareable to the BlackSox players who were banned for life, while Meyer-Lansky and the other mob guys fixed/fix games up to date.

 

[Escarabajo]

LOL, not even close. Not even in cycling.

Ulrich got away easy.

No he didn't when you compare how other cyclists have gotten away with their infractions. His mistake was being born in Germany (I am not trying to offend anybody, but I just feel that if he was born in a different European Country he could have been riding again by now).

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

No he didn't when you compare how other cyclists have gotten away with their infractions. His mistake was being born in Germany (I am not trying to offend anybody, but I just feel that if he was born in a different European Country he could have been riding again by now).

I go with your post 100%.

If he was born in spain, he would not only riding by now, but never have stopped. May Pereiro Sio, Contradoper and Sastre would never have won a TdF. By the way, what is looking funny on this list? They are all are from spain. Isn´t it strange; in 102 years we had 4 different winners from this country, and now we have 3 in only 4 years.

The more i think of it, we were better up in the 90s: We had dopers beat dopers under medical supervision with max. 50 hct.

Now we have tricky dopers beat idiotic dopers beat clean riders who are under strict surveillance and thus can´t dope maximum (riders from france and germany) beat unlucky caught dopers (riders on a ban from a wrong country). It is a mess. The playing field was NEVER as uneven as it is now. Plus the doping is more dangerous then ever. Its changed from "safe" 50-Hct-Doping to a high risk life threatening Blood-Doping-Mess. It is ridiculous.

The last true winner (and also the biggest scapegoat EVER in the history of sports) is Jan Ullrich 1997 beating his also doped opponents by 9 minutes.

1998 was a joke (half the riders abandoned or had to). 1999, the field was feared while one basterd laughed at all (didnt care about the "Tour de Renewal"). And with 2000 the life threatening Blood-Doping-Mess started. Since then its clear, not the talent wins, but the most fearless I-Dont-Care-If-I-Die-Doper wins.

P.S.: By all saying that, Rasmussen is the 2nd biggest scapegoat ever. He wasnt even tested positiv, yet his win was given to a Blood-Doping Fuentes-Guy with all signs of HGH-Symptoms (big ears, big eye-brows, big jaw and big nose compared to the overall look).

I really feel to vomit now. I better stop thinking of this mess.

 

[flicker]

Pantani /ricarrdo Rico Barry Bonds Samy Sosa. The NFL Major leage baseball.

 

[Pedaaldanser]

a Blood-Doping Fuentes-Guy with all signs of HGH-Symptoms (big ears, big eye-brows, big jaw and big nose compared to the overall look).

That's quite a stretch, his brother's ears, eyebrows, jaw & nose look just like that.

 

[Stephen D Aalderink]

I think one of the biggest lies I have seen is David beating Muzzin in American Flyers. No way that guy can train a few weeks riding across the USA and whip that guy. That's BS about his brother dying, too. I've seen him in other movies.

I think that was the dawn of the EPO era.

He obviously had the genetic backing, plus he was riding 40 miles a day and out sprinting dogs...and he did it for his bro!
David was the real deal. Period.

 

[Boeing]

I think one of the biggest lies I have seen is David beating Muzzin in American Flyers. No way that guy can train a few weeks riding across the USA and whip that guy. That's BS about his brother dying, too. I've seen him in other movies.

I think that was the dawn of the EPO era.

He never hit that hippie chick either. makes you wonder... the dope wacks his brother and David goes limp. the lies

speaking of lies Dave from Breaking Away wasn't really Italian either, makes you wonder, did he lie about the dope too

 

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Amateur sports

 

[Avoriaz]

Greatest sporting lie was committed by Donald Crowhurst in the first solo round the world yacht race. Whilst the pioneers battled the elements, psychological demons and boredom, he just pootled around the Azores topping up his tan making false log entries.

That said, even then he didn't finish, but instead went insane and took his own life.

 

[gatete]

In the game against Peru, Argentina needed at least 4 goals differential to classify to the semis and they won 6-0. The big question was raised because the Goal Keeper was originally born in Argentina but had a Peruvian citizenship. Besides that was the Peru team that had Cubillas, Cueto and others that made history for the country as one of the best teams.

During the finals some people questioned some calls from the referees but who doesn't if you are in the loosing team.

Anyway, enough said.

Well even peruvians claim this actually happened, for the lousy sum of $100,000 I believe there are a lot of players that had came forward with this, but it was diluted by jokes and nervous innuendos.

 

[Anonymous]

so where is tiger going to fit in all this little lot?

 

[lwebb12]

Micheal Phelps smashing records and 41 year old in a 25 year old's body Dara Torres.