auscyclefan94 said:I voted Sky. Cav won't get them any wins any time soon because he's too fat and nor do I believe any other sky rider will win.
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auscyclefan94 said:I voted Sky. Cav won't get them any wins any time soon because he's too fat and nor do I believe any other sky rider will win.
Cav is lighter than he usually is at this part of the season, at least according to himself and his teammates. Would be a huge surprise if they don't get one of the Mallorca Challenge stages or a couple of stages in Algarve.auscyclefan94 said:I voted Sky. Cav won't get them any wins any time soon because he's too fat and nor do I believe any other sky rider will win.
theyoungest said:You mean: with Romain Feillu.
theyoungest said:You mean: with Romain Feillu.
auscyclefan94 said:I voted Sky. Cav won't get them any wins any time soon because he's too fat and nor do I believe any other sky rider will win.
King Of The Wolds said:Eddy already won the points jersey at the TDU.
Richeypen said:This. Dont know why they are on the poll.
kanari said:Subrankings like points jersey doesn't count as wins. Not on CQ-ranking anyway.
Richeypen said:Maybe not on CQ but points and climbing jerseys definitely count as wins.
Fetisoff said:I don't think they've ever counted as wins in the "last WT team without a victory" contests on the CN forums, and that's what really counts![]()
Yes, but Feillu is the one who got 4 wins in a row (I think) in February last year.Maaaaaaaarten said:Probably he meant Feillu, Van Hummel, Marcato, Lighthart, (Markus?).....
Maybe not a mass, but certainly enough not to be anywhere near the last team to get a win. Especially considering the ammount of crappy races they enter.
Richeypen said:Maybe not on CQ but points and climbing jerseys definitely count as wins.
King Of The Wolds said:Eddy already won the points jersey at the TDU.
jens_attacks said:plus charteau will wipe out the competition in amissa bongo![]()
Panda Claws said:No they don't. Nobody counts those as wins.
Richeypen said:I think you will find they do.
Richeypen said:I think you will find they do.
adamski101 said:no they are not. winning a race or a stage counts as a win. not winning best young rider or points jersey. for example a rider wins best young rider but finishes 25th overall and doesn't win a stage....how can you count that as win??
been following cycling for years and never have I counted classification jerseys, other than the GC, as a win.
Richeypen said:So because YOU dont count them as wins that means no one does?
adamski101 said:not just me, i don't see many cycling fans counting them either. Even the teams don't . Look at Sky last year when they end of year review on their website they said they had 32 wins, and they certainly were not including points jerseys etc etc.
A win is first across the line in a stage or one day race or first on GC. I think if you did a quick straw poll forum you will find many of think likewise.
Richeypen said:Did you actually read any of my post on this thread? I was taking umbrage to the comment that 'Noone' counts them as wins when clearly lots of people do, as demonstrated when Amets crashed out of Pais Vasco.
adamski101 said:yes i did read your posts and i hear what you are saying, but my contention is it is not a win. a win is as i have said, you win the race/stage. i am sure that there are some that agree with you, but i am also sure there are plenty who don't. best agree to disagree.