Teams & Riders The Lorenzo Finn is not actually a Finn thread

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Kid can easily adapt to different conditions.
He won in torrential rain the JRWC last year and was sharp in tropical weather today.
 
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Its not a bike race without a knucklehead
Nah, Huber played it right. It's his best ever result by some margin, and if he didn't pull then either Finn would have just dropped him and gone solo much earlier, or they'd have become a five again and he'd have been dropped by Finn and maybe lost out on a medal. Huber wasn't in it to win at all costs, and that's fine – if anything it was a pragmatic and sensible decision.
 
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Kid can easily adapt to different conditions.
He won in torrential rain the JRWC last year and was sharp in tropical weather today.
He's still on the dev team next year? They should definitely mix some races in with the big boys IMO.
 
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Impressive win today especially given his age.

Finn and Seixas seem to be the two biggest talents for climbing oriented races among younger riders.
 
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Impressive win today especially given his age.

Finn and Seixas seem to be the two biggest talents for climbing oriented races among younger riders.
I think the 2006 class is stacked with great climbing prospects. Finn and Seixas are surely the most refined, but I think in terms of pure climbing Mateo Ramirez and Adria Pericas are not that far off. And there's Omrzel as well.
 
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He's still on the dev team next year? They should definitely mix some races in with the big boys IMO.
From their schedule this year, he can ride the pre-season stage races, Tour of the Alps, Hungary, Burgos and the non-WT Italian classics with the WT team next year.
 
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Recombination only affects the share from grandparents and up.
It's not even 50/50 to begin with.

We all inherit mitochondrial DNA completely from our mothers, and the Y chromosome contains far less genetic material than the X chromosome.

The idea that it's 50/50 is just propaganda man.
 
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It's not even 50/50 to begin with.

We all inherit mitochondrial DNA completely from our mothers, and the Y chromosome contains far less genetic material than the X chromosome.

The idea that it's 50/50 is just propaganda man.
ChatGPT says that measured in bp, it's rather 48.5/51.5 (for boys; it's very close to 50/50 for girls).

Short answer up front: Only the pseudoautosomal regions (PARs) on the Y recombine with the X — together they’re only a few megabases, so they affect only a few percent of the Y.

How much of the Y is affected?

PAR1 ≈ 2.6–2.7 Mb (the main recombining region in males).

PAR2 ≈ 0.32–0.33 Mb (much smaller and recombines only occasionally).

Total PAR length ≈ 2.9–3.0 Mb. (sum of PAR1 + PAR2).


Y chromosome size and percentage affected

A commonly cited reference length for the human Y is ~59–62 Mb (but Y size is variable between men; recent assemblies show a range ~45–85 Mb).

Using a ~59 Mb Y as an example:

Total PAR (≈3.0 Mb) / 59 Mb ≈ 5.1% of the Y.

PAR1 alone (≈2.7 Mb) / 59 Mb ≈ 4.6% of the Y.


If you use the observed range of Y sizes (≈45.2–84.9 Mb), the PARs cover roughly 3.6% → 6.7% of the Y (smaller Y → larger percentage, larger Y → smaller percentage).


Important nuance about recombination activity

PAR1 is the one that reliably undergoes an obligate crossover in male meiosis (so it recombines frequently). PAR2 recombines much less often and may be functionally minor for X–Y crossing over.

Most of the Y (the male-specific region, MSY) does not recombine with X. That region makes up >90–95% of the Y in typical references.


Bottom line

Only the PARs (≈3 Mb total) recombine with the X, so recombination affects roughly 4–6% of the Y chromosome depending on which Y-length you assume and whether you include PAR2. The rest of the Y is effectively non-recombining (except for rare gene-conversion events).
 
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It's not even 50/50 to begin with.

We all inherit mitochondrial DNA completely from our mothers, and the Y chromosome contains far less genetic material than the X chromosome.

The idea that it's 50/50 is just propaganda man.

You could also argue that since he has chosen to ride under Italian flag, then at least in that sense he's 100% Italian.
 
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You could also argue that since he has chosen to ride under Italian flag, then at least in that sense he's 100% Italian.

Mind blown

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He literally spent the last 50 km of the race hand gesturing, exchanging words with people and pretending he could do something he has no grasp of whatsoever (archery). It was the most stereotipically Italian hour in the history of cycling.
 
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From their schedule this year, he can ride the pre-season stage races, Tour of the Alps, Hungary, Burgos and the non-WT Italian classics with the WT team next year.
To me he seems too good to leave on the devo team. They can still send him to all the races you listed while allowing the option to race TA/Romandie/Suisse etc for experience.
 
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To me he seems too good to leave on the devo team. They can still send him to all the races you listed while allowing the option to race TA/Romandie/Suisse etc for experience.
I agree, but I don't think the difference is big if he rides some ProSeries races. The upside is that he gets to ride in rainbow during the BabyGiro and Avenir, and the chance of double U23 WC. (Okay, he can do like Nordhagen and also ride the U23 races while on the WT team, so technically WC is the only difference)