The much needed UCI loller thread

[CyclistAbi]

@Unchained

Actually it's much simpler then that and rest assured that each party involved knows their responsibility. In 2022 UCI acted swiftly but for whatever reasons involved UCI now doesn't want to act on it even under pressure of protestors and at expense of rider safety. So what is basically going on now is different parties involved, not only the protestors, will force UCI to act on it. This is inevitable outcome, unless underlying issues sort itself out in near future. Note that we are not talking about setting any precedent here, that was already done in the past.

“If a country politicises sport we must look elsewhere” – Danish sporting leaders raise doubts over Spain’s suitability to host future cycling events

Danish sporting officials have joined the growing chorus of voices questioning Spain’s ability to host major international cycling events after Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez praised the pro-Palestinian...

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Some are now backing Spain and some are arguing against Spain hosting future races. Ultimately one has to ask the question, what is more likely to happen in the 2026 season, for race organisers to gain possibility to remove high risk safety factor from the peloton or for Denmark to host Vuelta. In addition i don't know if some are really that much out of touch with reality to believe the exact same problem won't be present in races held outside Spain.

 

[theyoungest]

Luckily the UCI (and the Danes apparently) can rest assured that we won't see any protests on the roads of Rwanda this coming week. The particular reason for that we won't discuss...

 

[CyclistAbi]

In terms of governing bodies and authorities, EU commission, UN, ICJ, first USA senator, Ilan Volkov ... Lets see on how long can UCI keep a blind eye.

 

[CyclistAbi]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/kigali-worlds-under-fire-being-a-journalist-in-rwanda-is-life-threatening-hundreds-of-pages-of-war-crimes-but-the-uci-clearly-couldnt-care-less

Yeah, it seem that an era has ended and from 2025 season and going forward UCI will have to be mindful in terms of supporting only events that are aligned with core values of sport. When refusing to do so that will be scrutinised and called out.

 

[Berniece]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/kigali-worlds-under-fire-being-a-journalist-in-rwanda-is-life-threatening-hundreds-of-pages-of-war-crimes-but-the-uci-clearly-couldnt-care-less

Yeah, it seem that an era has ended and from 2025 season and going forward UCI will have to be mindful in terms of supporting only events that are aligned with core values of sport. When refusing to do so that will be scrutinised and called out.

They don't care it will be called out. WC 2028 will still happen in Abu Dhabi

 

[CyclistAbi]

They don't care it will be called out. WC 2028 will still happen in Abu Dhabi

In the past i would agree but there is just no way they can dodge this one. The world has gone mad and the idea UCI can remain some sort of island and ignore that altogether. No way. Even if they would try, the parties they are supposedly governing won't play along for long.

 

[AmRacer]

In the past i would agree but there is just no way they can doge this one. The world has gone mad and the idea UCI can remain some sort of island and ignore that altogether. No way. Even if they would try, the parties they are supposedly governing won't play along for long.

UCI won't be first mover in regards of sports organisations.

 

[CyclistAbi]

UCI won't be first mover in regards of sports organisations.

AFAIK they still could be the very first, so lets see if cycling or some other sport will do it first. I expect that likely already in 2026 season one will be the first and then we will get the domino effect.

Unless underlying issues settle.

 

[AmRacer]

AFAIK they still could be the very first, so lets see if cycling or some other sport will do it first.

Of course they could but they wait for IOC or simliar to decide something. No single sport will be first.

 

[pastronef]

I'm curious about Tour Down Under 2026 and the first Spanish races in Jan/Feb 2026, to see IF IPT is still there and how the crowds will react. they could skip ALL the Spanish races?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Of course they could but they wait for IOC or simliar to decide something. No single sport will be first.

You are just repeating something we already discussed in terms of the 2022 and 2023 events and hence that was already refuted as not being accurate.

I'm curious about Tour Down Under 2026 and the first Spanish races in Jan/Feb 2026, to see IF IPT is still there and how the crowds will react. they could skip ALL the Spanish races?

I mean it seems that they simply won't be invited and that is that. Just seen that Spain is now conditioning their World Cup participation. Sports really seem to be in a dark place, on where politicians from some countries must force sports governing bodies to align with core values of sport.

 

[AmRacer]

You are just repeating something we already discussed in terms of the 2022 and 2023 events and hence that was already refuted as not being accurate.



I mean it seems that they simply won't be invited and that is that. Just seen that Spain is now conditioning their World Cup participation. Sports really seem to be in a dark place, on where politicians from some countries must force sports governing bodies to align with core values of sport.

And you are repeating yourself too. UCI will not be first mover. And I didn't dicusssed anything 2022 or 2023.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

Of course we went through all of this already:

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Anyway, we'll see. Historically speaking protestors, some riders, a country ... were as you say the first movers. Lets see on where UCI stacks. Politically IJC, a bunch of individuals, Greta, EU commission, UN, Bernie ...
were as you say the first movers in terms of the West. Slovenia played a role too, early movers.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

Of course we went through all of this already:

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Anyway, we'll see. Historically speaking protestors, some riders, a country ... were as you say the first movers. Lets see on where UCI stacks. Politically IJC, a bunch of individuals, Greta, EU commission, UN, Bernie ...
were as you say the first movers in terms of the West. Slovenia played a role too, early movers.

Greta is not somebody, and same goes for Bernie. We are talking sports now and UCI won't be first sport org mover.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

I mean you are widening the debate here, making it a question of prestige in between each sport governing body for every sport in existence. Here one would really need a crystal ball to vehemently say UCI will or won't be the very first one.

In terms of UCI and IOC, that IMHO is settled, expectation on who will be first based on the past events. For example UCI will need to make a move in terms of 2026 season already, IOC still has some leeway as Olympics are scheduled for 2028. Or what are you saying, that IOC will be working hard for UCI to align with that going into 2026 season? About that, great if it happens, but i wouldn't hold my breath.

Anyway, we'll see.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

I mean you are widening the debate here, making it a question of prestige in between each sport governing body for every sport in existence. Here one would really need a crystal ball to vehemently say UCI will or won't be the very first one.

In terms of UCI and IOC, that IMHO is settled, expectation on who will be first based on the past events. For example UCI will need to make a move in terms of 2026 season already, IOC still has some leeway as Olympics are scheduled for 2028. Or what are you saying, that IOC will be working hard for UCI to align with that going into 2026 season? About that, great if it happens, but i wouldn't hold my breath.

Anyway, we'll see.

Nope, you are. UCI won't be the first mover. That's how it is. It's not about prestige, but waiting for a higher sport body to take a decission.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

I see, lets see it then, on how Waiting for Godot will work out, once season 2026 starts and if that is the plan indeed.

 

[AmRacer]

@AmRacer

I see, lets see it then, on how Waiting for Godot will work out, once season 2026 starts and if that is the plan indeed.

We'll see.

 

[Rob5091]

We have the Winter Olympics starting Feb 6 next year in Milan so maybe the IOC will take the bull by the horns.

 

[AmRacer]

We have the Winter Olympics starting Feb 6 next year in Milan so maybe the IOC will take the bull by the horns.

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/news/individual-neutral-athletes-to-compete-at-milano-cortina-2026-olympic-winter-games-under-same-conditions-as-for-paris-2024

 

[Wyndbrook]

UCI have another legal battle coming up, Sram have filed an official complaint against the UCI with the Belgian competition authority . There are not happy with the upcoming maximum gear size restriction.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Wyndbrook

I mean SRAM is asking the right question, that is prove it with data before banning it, or i guess don't do that but after restriction is applied then a drop in statistics must be detected. Looks like UCI is really being called out on all fronts now. In the past they would just shrug it off.

'There is no empirical data or analysis linking higher rollout ratios to crash risk' - SRAM launches legal challenge to UCI gear restrictions

‘The protocol forces SRAM to mechanically disable its 10-tooth cog’

www.cyclingnews.com

@AmRacer

So basically and so far IOC has done nothing. I assume they will rather have potential protests and to act on it for the next ones. Tough luck for UCI, i guess, as in cycling we are one step beyond that already. So acting surprised in the 2026 season somewhat won't work. We'll see.

 

[Sciatic]

Where has the lolling gone?

 

[AmRacer]

@Wyndbrook

I mean SRAM is asking the right question, that is prove it with data before banning it, or i guess don't do that but after restriction is applied then a drop in statistics must be detected. Looks like UCI is really being called out on all fronts now. In the past they would just shrug it off.

'There is no empirical data or analysis linking higher rollout ratios to crash risk' - SRAM launches legal challenge to UCI gear restrictions

‘The protocol forces SRAM to mechanically disable its 10-tooth cog’

www.cyclingnews.com

@AmRacer

So basically and so far IOC has done nothing. I assume they will rather have potential protests and to act on it for the next ones. Tough luck for UCI, i guess, as in cycling we are one step beyond that already. So acting surprised in the 2026 season somewhat won't work. We'll see.

UCI is at the same step as every other sport organisations.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

So in regards to the near future, year 2026, duo you reckon IOC will amend that list, the link you gave, or do you feel it's final?