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He doesn't need a strong team (which by the way, is about twice as strong as CCC, lol) the way he's riding. Gaps are never big at BP, gaps he closes while picking his nose.
fauniera said:
He doesn't need a strong team (which by the way, is about twice as strong as CCC, lol) the way he's riding. Gaps are never big at BP, gaps he closes while picking his nose.
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- Nov 16, 2013
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But only just!!
https://twitter.com/circuitcycliste/status/1115607123281334273/video/1
I don't know if Vallée had made an earlier attack. It's difficult to see what had happened previously to this but the stage should not have been one metre shorter.
https://twitter.com/circuitcycliste/status/1115607123281334273/video/1
I don't know if Vallée had made an earlier attack. It's difficult to see what had happened previously to this but the stage should not have been one metre shorter.
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- Mar 13, 2009
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Dekker Tifosi, how you you reckon he would be able to do in a race like Roubaix or something completely different like Liege? Amstel and Flanders suit him like a glove (not the OJ Simpson-one), but is his versatility big enough to also contend in these races?Dekker_Tifosi said:He didn't win today. Maybe it's better if he does something else like MTB or Cyclocross
- Nov 16, 2013
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I know you asked him specifically, but I'm going to weigh in and say yes. He won the Denain race by going alone on the flat cobbles, and the flat cobbles is where other cross riders such as Stybar and Boom have been doing best (okay, Stybar has also been very good on the hellingen this year and in Strade Bianche).
Regarding Liège, I suppose he would have a chance there as well but he probably needs to be a little more cool (as in not waste precious energy too early like he seems to have been doing a little bit in his road races this year).
But he is lighter than Van Aert (I hope I didn't step anybody too hard on their toes for comparing the two unprovokedly) and thus has more potential than him in the Ardennes classics.
Valv.Piti said:Dekker Tifosi, how you you reckon he would be able to do in a race like Roubaix or something completely different like Liege? Amstel and Flanders suit him like a glove (not the OJ Simpson-one), but is his versatility big enough to also contend in these races?Dekker_Tifosi said:He didn't win today. Maybe it's better if he does something else like MTB or Cyclocross
I know you asked him specifically, but I'm going to weigh in and say yes. He won the Denain race by going alone on the flat cobbles, and the flat cobbles is where other cross riders such as Stybar and Boom have been doing best (okay, Stybar has also been very good on the hellingen this year and in Strade Bianche).
Regarding Liège, I suppose he would have a chance there as well but he probably needs to be a little more cool (as in not waste precious energy too early like he seems to have been doing a little bit in his road races this year).
But he is lighter than Van Aert (I hope I didn't step anybody too hard on their toes for comparing the two unprovokedly) and thus has more potential than him in the Ardennes classics.
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We can't know until we've seen him. But in juniors he was a pretty good climber who blew away people like Oomen and Haig. Ofcourse he is way too heavy (75kg) to be a climber now. But LBL might just be doable. However, until I've seen it it's only an if.
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According to their own claims, they shouldn't differ that much in weight atm. When during the winter Van Aert was said to weigh close to 80kg, Mathieu said he wasn't far behind (but never specified). But a few weeks ago, Van Aert said he currently only weighs 77.4kg (at MSR). It's probably (at the moment) not too much of a difference between them. I do think Wout was (significantly) heavier during winter. I don't know if Mathieu shed some pounds or not.
Mathieu was better at RVV on the short hills, Wout was better at GW on the same climbs. Wout also generally seems to prefer longer steady climbs than short steep ones. On the longer climbs he never seemed inferior in CX. From watching him (Mathieu) mainly in CX, i get the impression that his biggest strength (except for technique and punch) is his ability to recover after efforts. It's also basically what we saw at RVV. The times Wout has been able to beat him in the past, usually occured when Wout didn't give Mathieu the chance to recover. But obviously, that's easier said than done. But for instance, i'm not sure Mathieu would have done a better job at Strade.
Van Aert was a bit disappointing in RVV, i'm wondering if his form is on the decline (which wouldn't surprise me, considering how his season has evolved so far). That said, what Mathieu did in RVV makes you wonder where his limit actually lies and it makes it hard to make a prediction of how he would fare on whatever course. We'll just have to find out. RVV was a hard race of 270km, events didn't favor him, and still he was the only one that might have countered Bettiol. So, who knows what's next.
I'm keeping tabs.tobydawq said:
According to their own claims, they shouldn't differ that much in weight atm. When during the winter Van Aert was said to weigh close to 80kg, Mathieu said he wasn't far behind (but never specified). But a few weeks ago, Van Aert said he currently only weighs 77.4kg (at MSR). It's probably (at the moment) not too much of a difference between them. I do think Wout was (significantly) heavier during winter. I don't know if Mathieu shed some pounds or not.
Mathieu was better at RVV on the short hills, Wout was better at GW on the same climbs. Wout also generally seems to prefer longer steady climbs than short steep ones. On the longer climbs he never seemed inferior in CX. From watching him (Mathieu) mainly in CX, i get the impression that his biggest strength (except for technique and punch) is his ability to recover after efforts. It's also basically what we saw at RVV. The times Wout has been able to beat him in the past, usually occured when Wout didn't give Mathieu the chance to recover. But obviously, that's easier said than done. But for instance, i'm not sure Mathieu would have done a better job at Strade.
Van Aert was a bit disappointing in RVV, i'm wondering if his form is on the decline (which wouldn't surprise me, considering how his season has evolved so far). That said, what Mathieu did in RVV makes you wonder where his limit actually lies and it makes it hard to make a prediction of how he would fare on whatever course. We'll just have to find out. RVV was a hard race of 270km, events didn't favor him, and still he was the only one that might have countered Bettiol. So, who knows what's next.
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I'm not DT, but along with Valverde he's my favorite rider and I've probably watched him race over a hundred times (I've watched every cx race that's been broadcast over the last 7-8 years whether live or after the fact) and I've been closely following his road performances as well.
I think he's got more potential in Roubaix than in Liège, though I wouldn't count him out of the latter at this point either. I actually think Roubaix might be the ideal race for him, even more so than Amstel or Flanders. I could see him winning from a sprint or from a solo attack. I really wish he was racing it this year to get some experience there because I think it's a tough race to win in your first go.
I think he's got more potential in Roubaix than in Liège, though I wouldn't count him out of the latter at this point either. I actually think Roubaix might be the ideal race for him, even more so than Amstel or Flanders. I could see him winning from a sprint or from a solo attack. I really wish he was racing it this year to get some experience there because I think it's a tough race to win in your first go.
If he can contend for LBL, then his potential is limitless. That's a race typically won by GC contenders and climbers. There have been a few roleur types mixed in like GIlbert but lighter, springier riders seem to do best -- i.e., Valverde.
But at this point, I'd be a fool to say MVP couldn't do something...
But at this point, I'd be a fool to say MVP couldn't do something...
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That's why I say you can't tell unless we've seen him there.
Things like "he will get destroyed in LBL" or the opposite "He will contend". You can't really say. You have 0 indication.
Wait and see is all that there is to it. Maybe if he competes in Yorkshire we get some indication. Even if it's not LBL. And ofcourse Amstel Gold will be some indication, but not all
Things like "he will get destroyed in LBL" or the opposite "He will contend". You can't really say. You have 0 indication.
Wait and see is all that there is to it. Maybe if he competes in Yorkshire we get some indication. Even if it's not LBL. And ofcourse Amstel Gold will be some indication, but not all
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