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Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

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A WC and multiple monument winner working his ass off for a teammate while he could have won himself as well seems extremely humble,selfless and altruistic to me. Can't see anything negative about that, it shows his greatness in a different way. Apart from that, seeing how good he already was Today I think he will be in fine shape in Flanders and Roubaix.

If you have to be critical he makes one tactical error it is not countering Pogacar first attack. He was still looking sharp at that moment and only Ganna and Bettiol were still in the wheels.
 
Don't get me wrong but I'm very disappointed with him. Seriously, he is one of the best classicomanos cycling has ever seen and he is giving monuments to his teammate? He had everything to win today and don't like this lack of champion mentality.
Are you crazy? He wasn't strong enough today. Even his 'leadout' for Philipsen was pretty weak and not what won the race.
 
I think he played it right after a tactical error on the poggio. I feel like it's what boonen would do in his best days. From a group with 10 this was the best chance for a Alpecin victory and in Philipsen he has a very grateful teammate who might return the favour in another race (maybe Paris Roubaix again).
 
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Not bad for first road race of the season. He is aiming for a peak at RVV. Still a bit of time left to hone the form, but his base is really good already, considering what he showed today. Didn't win but that was difficult anyway with the quality of the field coming into the line. Did the right thing to set up Jasper for the sprint by closing everything down prior.
 
He pulled back multiple attacks.

I really think he felt dead but didn't realise they almost all were.
doesnt seem like that in the interview

,,Ik voelde dat ik de benen had om iedereen terug te halen. Na de Poggio, beneden, zag ik dat Jasper er bij zat en wist ik dat ik voor hem zou rijden. Jasper had al gezegd dat hij goede benen had voor de Poggio. Dan is het niet een hele moeilijke beslissing. Ik had vorig jaar veel aan Jasper te danken in Parijs-Roubaix, dat zal ik niet snel vergeten.’’

"I felt i had the legs to pull everyone back".

Also:

,,Ik had ook nog wel de benen om te sprinten. Maar als Jasper zegt dat hij echt super is, geloof ik hem en is het aan mij om te rijden.

"I still had the legs to ride for a sprint. But if Jasper says he is really super than I believe him and it was up to me to ride for him"

Every part of the interviews I read on AD seems to point to the opposite. He was only a bit tired at the top of the Poggio because he had to close the gap to Pogacar. Although this to me was more to positioning than anything else.

It's his first race day, he was maybe 98% instead of 100% but still good enough to win. But he chose to ride for Philipsen which was likely the more safe option with Jasper saying he is good.
 
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doesnt seem like that in the interview

,,Ik voelde dat ik de benen had om iedereen terug te halen. Na de Poggio, beneden, zag ik dat Jasper er bij zat en wist ik dat ik voor hem zou rijden. Jasper had al gezegd dat hij goede benen had voor de Poggio. Dan is het niet een hele moeilijke beslissing. Ik had vorig jaar veel aan Jasper te danken in Parijs-Roubaix, dat zal ik niet snel vergeten.’’

"I felt i had the legs to pull everyone back".

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,,Ik had ook nog wel de benen om te sprinten. Maar als Jasper zegt dat hij echt super is, geloof ik hem en is het aan mij om te rijden.

"I still had the legs to ride for a sprint. But if Jasper says he is really super than I believe him and it was up to me to ride for him"

Every part of the interviews I read on AD seems to point to the opposite. He was only a bit tired at the top of the Poggio because he had to close the gap to Pogacar. Although this to me was more to positioning than anything else.

It's his first race day, he was maybe 98% instead of 100% but still good enough to win. But he chose to ride for Philipsen which was likely the more safe option with Jasper saying he is good.
Lmao

A sprint after the Poggio is never a safer option than Van der Poel taking on Pogacar in the sprint. Philipsen only won because Matthews *** it.
 
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Lmao

A sprint after the Poggio is never a safer option than Van der Poel taking on Pogacar in the sprint. Philipsen only won because Matthews *** it.
Yeah, hopefully the tiny winning margin over a not that great sprinter will make Mathieu more hesitant to convert himself into a domestique in a freaking monument in the future.

That said; they were caught before the finish of the descent, and Mathieu seemed to have enough to do following Pogacar. So he probably didn't back himself too much in the five-man group that emerged at the bottom.
 
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Yeah, hopefully the tiny winning margin over a not that great sprinter will make Mathieu more hesitant to convert himself into a domestique in a freaking monument in the future.

That said; they were caught before the finish of the descent, and Mathieu seemed to have enough to do following Pogacar. So he probably didn't back himself too much in the five-man group that emerged at the bottom.
But the only reason they got caught was that he wasn't helping on the descent himself.

Also it's weird to pay him back when he's literally done more work for Philipsen than vice versa.
 
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But the only reason they got caught was that he wasn't helping on the descent himself.

Also it's weird to pay him back when he's literally done more work for Philipsen than vice versa.

Completely agree with the last point.

As to the first; true, but I guess he thought they went sufficiently fast and that he needed to recover after closing the gap over the top. I'm sure that if they still had a gap at the bottom, he would have played his own card.

That's not to say that I don't agree that he should have tried to overtake Pog on the descent and increase the pace, but I guess that was his reasoning.
 
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I don't see how he could start in LBL at 100% realistically. Neither would it matter. If Pog is there with his pre-Giro form, and Evenepoel is there with some more freshness, he is most likely going to get shredded. The only realistic chance he has there is if those two cancel each other out.
If he gets there at 100% he has a good chance to fight for the victory, remember that he already did sixth on Liège bastogne liege 2020, and he is good in 5 min climb efforts.

Remember some of this perfomances like in TA 2021 stage 5.


Pogacar is the favourite followed by Remco, but van der poel also have a chance of fighting for the victory. He can survive on they're wheels.
 
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Like I thought, he was missing just a little bit, but enough to not snap the whole group, plus there was a Philipsen factor.
Had he rode for himself he maybe could've won, but I had an impression he was tiny bit weaker than last year. Still rode like a champion, in fact a generous champion!
The form for the cobbled classics sould be imperious though...