Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

[Didinho]

If MvdP gets on the podium of a 1-week protour GC, we'll talk further.

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[Volderke]

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* with some mountains...
You know I'm talking about Tirreno.

 

[proffate]

If MvdP gets on the podium of a 1-week protour GC, we'll talk further.
MvdP has an incredible set of talents and while he beats WvA 4 out of 5 in a duel, can drop him uphill but not the other way around, is an accomplished MTB rider and almost unbeatable in CX, the reality is that he hasn't proven to be a better TT rider, bunch sprinter or climber. That's all.

I agree it hasn't been proven, but if we only talked about things that have been proven then this forum would be a very boring place.

 

[tobydawq]

I agree it hasn't been proven, but if we only talked about things that have been proven then this forum would be a very boring place.

What's wrong with conversing over things like Fermat's Last Theorem or the Fundamentel Theorem of Calculus?

 

[Nick2413]

What's wrong with conversing over things like Fermat's Last Theorem or the Fundamentel Theorem of Calculus?

Even gravity is only a theory. And out of curiosity what are your thoughts on Fermat’s Last Theorem?

 

[senna6541]

As a a huge MVDP fan (any race he enters is must watch), I have no problem saying Pogi and Wout are better all-around on the road. The beauty of MVDP is that he can do things on the bike that no one else can do - mainly around his surreal ability to carry speed, find grip, and accelerate - all on display in CX. Add in the killer instinct and go for broke mentality and you have a bike racer worth watching. Going 12mph uphill and TT'ing is boring anyway.

 

[Kwaremonster]

As a a huge MVDP fan (any race he enters is must watch), I have no problem saying Pogi and Wout are better all-around on the road. The beauty of MVDP is that he can do things on the bike that no one else can do - mainly around his surreal ability to carry speed, find grip, and accelerate - all on display in CX. Add in the killer instinct and go for broke mentality and you have a bike racer worth watching. Going 12mph uphill and TT'ing is boring anyway.

Same. Mvdp himself seems to be perfectly aware what his limits are, who are we to argue otherwise.

He will never win a (mountainous) stage race,. As much as we can dream, he will never win Lombardia and probably not Liege either. But he might add more of the three other monuments, which I would be perfectly happy with..

 

[tobydawq]

Even gravity is only a theory. And out of curiosity what are your thoughts on Fermat’s Last Theorem?

That I think he lied when he claimed that he had a 'truly wonderful' proof of it.

 

[stonerider]

As a a huge MVDP fan (any race he enters is must watch), I have no problem saying Pogi and Wout are better all-around on the road. The beauty of MVDP is that he can do things on the bike that no one else can do - mainly around his surreal ability to carry speed, find grip, and accelerate - all on display in CX. Add in the killer instinct and go for broke mentality and you have a bike racer worth watching. Going 12mph uphill and TT'ing is boring anyway.

I wish he learned how to find more grip on the MTB. When out of practice he loses his front wheel too often in XC racing.

 

[senna6541]

I wish he learned how to find more grip on the MTB. When out of practice he loses his front wheel too often in XC racing.

Yeah, trying to roll 6 foot drop (what happened to the ramp?) wasn't brilliant either, but losing that front wheel at the WC was literally the common beginner MTB crash (along with grabbing the brakes). Hard to take anything away from Piddy, but with the form MVDP (the sheer brutality of his attack on the road may never be matched) had he may have been able to pull it off too.

 

[senna6541]

Feel horrible for Wout today. The guy is 100% class act on the bike and appears to be so off it too. I wouldn't have been surprised at all if this was the year he got RVV or PR (more likely PR). Hope he can bounce back this year, and I'll be rooting for him to win a big one.

 

[velaso montador]

Big favourit on sunday i wonder how much that changes the dynamic og the race for him.

I dont suspect mvdp got better chances now that wva is not riding he and jumbo would help dictate the race and since VDP dont have a team at all thats helpfull. Wva wouldnt have standed a chance so this opens it up more actually i think.

 

[velaso montador]

I do think noones close tho in strenght or numbres but a race they loose control over or any injuries bar that mvdp woulda won easily anyway with Pogacar not hear. Bettiol and pedersen are strong tho Pedersen beat wva last year so one shouldnt underestimate him but the lvl up to mvdp should be just to high in terms of numbers he posses.

Regardless the dynamic of the race will be the interesting thing to follow for me here and see how long he can wait untill he just have to demolish everyone like hes used to, when they force his hand is key here to sucess over him.. My guess is 55km mark is mvdp target, maby i dont know.

Flandern is christmas and everything else, looking forward to sunday.

 

[Kwaremonster]

Don't think he will win, it will be uncontrollable chaos for Alpecin I think.

 

[KZD]

Poulidor was right when he said that Mathieu was better than both he and Adrie.

Van der Poel now equals Pogačar with 5 monuments wins each, this is the best rivalry in cycling nowadays.

 

[LookProGoSlow]

Don't think he will win, it will be uncontrollable chaos for Alpecin I think.

Alpecin did quite well

 

[Didinho]

Best decision was starting cheering for him when he was 18 in CX. Seen him growing every year, these years without problems are impressive now.

Masterclass. Bring on a wet Roubaix!

 

[Didinho]

No shot that Alpecin can control Roubaix

Indeed will be harder. They must have someone in the break for that.

 

[velaso montador]

This wasnt any suprise at all tho for anyone who have watched cycling the last few years, noone is close to beeing able to have his power not named Pogacar weve seen that countless of times over the years so no surprise at all!

As long as we knew Pogacar wasnt riding this would always been the outcome baering any accidents.

 

[velaso montador]

Congratz on the win, what a rider!

 

[Netserk]

No shot that Alpecin can control Roubaix

They looked fine today. Especially compared to other teams.

 

[jmdirt]

MvdP!
Beast!

EDIT:
That rainbow kit slides through the air and rain quite nicely!

 

[Didinho]

They looked fine today. Especially compared to other teams.

And Philipsen has something to give back after Sanremo. Hope Kieling will be starting, after his win last race.

 

[proffate]

And Philipsen has something to give back after Sanremo. Hope Kieling will be starting, after his win last race.

I agree but if he were in a more giving mood he would have ridden Flanders?

 

[Netserk]

And Philipsen has something to give back after Sanremo. Hope Kieling will be starting, after his win last race.

The two will go clear and have time to get off the bike and hug at the finish.