MVDP is a specialist in road cycling. I wasn't considering cross, because it's not in the same category. Most of the talk on this forum, the overwherming majority, concerns road cycling. And I'm not a Pogi fan, but I recognize he is the most gifted cyclist since Hinault. I also proritize winning grand tours, particularly the Tour, as the benchmark of Big in terms of the pecking order in cycling. When you can win GTs and monuments like Flanders, however, you are fuori classe period. MvDP doesn't belong in that league, however great a set of set skills he has. He is a giant at what he specializes in, particularly the cobbled monuments, but there is a lot more to cycling on the road that makes him far inferior to the Slovenian. Again, I'm not considering cross, because it's a separate discipline in which very few top road cyclists participate. Just like I'm not considering mountain bike or gravel, which are fine sports, but can't be brought into a discussion about "all-around" best when events like the monuments, Tour and WCRR come into the equation.