Teams & Riders The "MVP" Mathieu Van der Poel Road Discussion Thread

[Salvarani]

Yeah, Remco is nowhere to be seen

Doesnt have many GT results or wins either, when compared to others.

Clasica San Remco for life though. You have to give him that.

 

[Lequack]

He truly is the king of classics

 

[QueenStagiaire]

„It's no fair play to go full gas after a crash where more than half of the bunch is blocked,"
"For me, this is something we would never do as a team. I'm not gonna waste too many words on it, but just it shows a real problem in cycling, in my opinion,"

Mathieu van der Poel angered and calls out teams for unsportsmanlike tactics at E3 Saxo Classic despite solo domination

Dutchman says teams pacing full gas after half the peloton was caught behind early crash 'shows a real problem in cycling'

www.cyclingnews.com

If any rider in Mathieu‘s group crashes during the classics, I expect him to go the front and slow down the group. Or is there some minimum number of riders or minimum distance to the finish? Or is it because King Mathieu thinks he‘s someone special? Maybe he‘s traumatised from last year‘s Liège when this also happened? And how is this a real problem in cycling? It just shows that people will take advantage of favorable race situations instead of adhering to some unwritten rules.

 

[AmRacer]

„It's no fair play to go full gas after a crash where more than half of the bunch is blocked,"
"For me, this is something we would never do as a team. I'm not gonna waste too many words on it, but just it shows a real problem in cycling, in my opinion,"

Mathieu van der Poel angered and calls out teams for unsportsmanlike tactics at E3 Saxo Classic despite solo domination

Dutchman says teams pacing full gas after half the peloton was caught behind early crash 'shows a real problem in cycling'

www.cyclingnews.com

If any rider in Mathieu‘s group crashes during the classics, I expect him to go the front and slow down the group. Or is there some minimum number of riders or minimum distance to the finish? Or is it because King Mathieu thinks he‘s someone special? Maybe he‘s traumatised from last year‘s Liège when this also happened? And how is this a real problem in cycling? It just shows that people will take advantage of favorable race situations instead of adhering to some unwritten rules.

Key magic words 'half peloton' 😁

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Key magic words 'half peloton' 😁

So it starts at 87.5/175 riders, thanks

 

[JoãoRamos]

Did VDP wait for WVA in P-R 2023?

 

[Didinho]

Did VDP wait for WVA in P-R 2023?

He waits for him at the finish line every race.

 

[JoãoRamos]

He waits for him at the finish line every race.

Nope, once he saw WVA with a punctured tire, he ran away.

 

[Berniece]

Did VDP wait for WVA in P-R 2023?

Not the same at all. It’s as if you are deliberately being obtuse

 

[JoãoRamos]

Not the same at all. It’s as if you are deliberately being obtuse

I know.

But one can argue that he is being hypocrite, right?

 

[Berniece]

I know.

But one can argue that he is being hypocrite, right?

Not really because both instances aren’t comparable in the slightest.

 

[hayneplane]

What a monster.

Unless he is got some bad luck, i think he will be unbeatable on PR and Flandres.

He already has got the bad luck of the presence of Tadej Pogacar on the startlist for those races.

 

[senna6541]

Don’t think there haven’t been many top riders doing the 5 monuments every year. What’s even the point of that if you tried, even came close and now know you physiologically can’t win.

He won 6 out of his last 10 monuments (+WC), while being 2nd in de Ronde and 3th in Liege and a harder WC course. The other one he closed Pogi and helped his teammate win Sanremo.

Pogi fans conveniently forget that MVDP also happens to be the greatest CX racer of all-time and was the best MTB racer in the world the last time he put the minimal amount of time it takes to be the best in the world at anything (2019). I would say a podium at LBL and a pure climbers WC aren't bad either for a guy who actually looks healthy. There are more exciting disciplines in cycling that require more technical skill than skeletons going up smooth mountain roads at 15mph...

 

[jmdirt]

Did VDP wait for WVA in P-R 2023?

grapes to refried beans comparison!

 

[jmdirt]

The bottom line with a team/teams riding hard on the front to take advantage of a large crash 10 K into a race is that MvdP still won, and they created bad feelings...a double loss for them (a triple loss if you count that they looked stupid for gaining 3+ minutes and only managing 6th). Its juts not smart, even if some find it acceptable.

 

[tobydawq]

If Mathieu wins De Ronde on Sunday, he will be the first rider to become the rider with most wins in one particular monument since 1977 where De Vlaeminck won Paris-Roubaix for the fourth time.

 

[rghysens]

If Mathieu wins De Ronde on Sunday, he will be the first rider to become the rider with most wins in one particular monument since 1977 where De Vlaeminck won Paris-Roubaix for the fourth time.

Boonen won 4 times PR too.
Argentin and Valverde won LBL 4 times, Zabel MSR and Pogacar Lombardia.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If Mathieu wins De Ronde on Sunday, he will be the first rider to become the rider with most wins in one particular monument since 1977 where De Vlaeminck won Paris-Roubaix for the fourth time.

Bro I can't figure this sentence out

 

[tobydawq]

Boonen won 4 times PR too.

He didn't become the outright leader, which was what I was talking about. Many people have equalled records since then, but nobody has beaten them in monuments.

 

[rghysens]

He didn't become the outright leader, which was what I was talking about. Many people have equalled records since then, but nobody have beaten them in monuments.

Oh, Ok. Somehow I was focussed on the 4 wins....

 

[tobydawq]

Bro I can't figure this sentence out

I'm saying that since 1977, no rider has beaten an existing record of most victories in one of the five monuments.

In 1977, De Vlaeminck had the most wins in PR, Merckx had the most in MSR and LBL, Coppi had the most in Il Lombardia and Merckx, Magni and Buysse had the most in Flanders.

In 2025, those people still have the records. Since then, Boonen has equalled De Vlaeminck in Roubaix and the three-time Flanders winners, and Cancellara, Museeuw and Mathieu have also equalled the Flanders record. But nobody has beaten any records. Mathieu can do that with a fourth Ronde win.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Pogi fans conveniently forget that MVDP also happens to be the greatest CX racer of all-time and was the best MTB racer in the world the last time he put the minimal amount of time it takes to be the best in the world at anything (2019). I would say a podium at LBL and a pure climbers WC aren't bad either for a guy who actually looks healthy. There are more exciting disciplines in cycling that require more technical skill than skeletons going up smooth mountain roads at 15mph...

i dont know why Pogi fans are so harsh/disrespectful of VDP all the time when Pogi himself isn't, he is very respectful. Pogi is for sure a lot better than his fans.

 

[shalgo]

Actually Van der Poel is the last top rider that I recall doing the 5 monuments in the same season, 2020, yet some people want to make the argument that he is a coward when he doesn't even have the goal of winning all 5.

2020 was a strange season

And half a decade ago

And only four monuments were raced in 2020.

 

[AmRacer]

And only four monuments were raced in 2020.

Don't you agree 2020 was a strange year? And it's half a decade ago? And he is the last top rider doing all monunuments in a season. How's that disrespectful? Pogi could be the second top rider do the same.

 

[Red Rick]

Don't you agree 2020 was a strange year? And it's half a decade ago? And he is the last top rider doing all monunuments in a season. How's that disrespectful? Pogi could be the second top rider do the same.

Monuments were won by Van Aert, Fuglsang, Roglic and Van der Poel. Perfectly normal year.