The New World Champion! Appreciation

[happychappy]

And I don't think someone like Cavendish has the right class, nor the proper attitude to don the Rainbow Jersey in any way that is becoming, but is only grotesque.

Yeah, he's not European enough. He speaks English too! Disgusting. Don't the English know this is a European sport?

No but seriously, get used to it.

 

[El Pistolero]

You have ago at Cav-fanboys but just across as a Cav hater , yes the course was too easy not his fault he's the best sprinter he won it and we have not seen how he will honour it bit hes does seem to understand and revel in the tradition of cycling so he will no.doubt where it with pride. He certainly is arrogant but so are a lot of the guys at the top end of the sport. If Gilbert or Canc it wouldn't be a problem and they undeniably have an arrogance. I understand u don't think its appropriate to have such an inselective worlds but there is no need for any attacks of Cavs character.

Gilbert or Cancellara have a different type of arrogance than Cavendish. They don't go around and insult their fellow cyclists for example. The Phil arrogance is classic Vandenbroucke or Usain Bolt arrogance. Cavendish arrogance is uuhhhh.... I just hate his interviews post race. He almost never seems happy, not even now after his WC did he look happy with his angry responses to interviewers. He also thinks he needs to continuously proof him self or something and is always defensive in his interviews. The guy is clearly suffering from a Napoleon complex if you ask me.

As for Cancellara arrogance, it's just plain stupid and that makes it incredibly funny "Strap on your belts cause I'm like an airplane"

Haha.

 

[El Pistolero]

Yeah, he's not European enough. He speaks English too! Disgusting. Don't the English know this is a European sport?

No but seriously, get used to it.

I'm afraid only the English don't consider them self to be European.

 

[spalco]

He almost never seems happy, not even now after his WC did he look happy with his angry responses to interviewers.

Completely untrue.

 

[hatcher]

Gilbert or Cancellara have a different type of arrogance than Cavendish. They don't go around and insult their fellow cyclists for example. The Phil arrogance is classic Vandenbroucke or Usain Bolt arrogance. Cavendish arrogance is uuhhhh.... I just hate his interviews post race. He almost never seems happy, not even now after his WC did he look happy with his angry responses to interviewers. He also thinks he needs to continuously proof him self or something and is always defensive in his interviews. The guy is clearly suffering from a Napoleon complex if you ask me.

As for Cancellara arrogance, it's just plain stupid and that makes it incredibly funny "Strap on your belts cause I'm like an airplane"

Haha.

The sad thing is you know that is an utter lie, as does anyone who watched the interviews yesterday.

 

[El Pistolero]

The sad thing is you know that is an utter lie, as does anyone who watched the interviews yesterday.

I didn't see a happy Cavendish when Sporza interviewed him. He wasn't smiling ever nor was his voice filled with excitement. And when he got asked about what team he was going to he got angry

 

[BM1979]

I look at this victory the same way Cav see's all Greipels victories in those ****ty little races, this was a ****ty WC course which was an embarrasment to the Jersey it represents.

 

[Midnightfright]

I didn't see a happy Cavendish when Sporza interviewed him. He wasn't smiling ever nor was his voice filled with excitement. And when he got asked about what team he was going to he got angry

I think you see things in a diffrent way to me then he almost seems happy after a win too me. I suppose tears they weren't tears of joy running down his face on the podium he was crying because he realised his skin suit made him look like a pillock.

 

[El Pistolero]

I think you see things in a diffrent way to me then he almost seems happy after a win too me. I suppose tears they weren't tears of joy running down his face on the podium he was crying because he realised his skin suit made him look like a pillock.

I didn't see tears yesterday. His eyes were tinkling a little when the anthem played, but tears never came out?

 

[Midnightfright]

I didn't see tears yesterday. His eyes were tinkling a little when the anthem played, but tears never came out?

Obviously that's up for debate, regardless to say he wasn't happy was silly. For starters not everyone is the same in showing there emotions even though he was clearly happy. I understand some people find him arrogant ( as do I ) and find him childish and a bad loser these are all plenty good reasons to dislike him but it doesn't mean everything he does has to be put down or ripped apart. He will be limited I
n how he can "respect" the jersey nxt year as he's the fastest bunch sprinter around so he will be in the bunch but that's not his fault that's the fault of the race route yesterday.

 

[Cimber]

He and his team deserves recognition. I had hoped his team was a little weaker as that would have meant more attacks, but the British team was superb and so was Cav. I am sure he will do the jersey proud. I for one am looking forward to seeing him in MSR and PRB.

 

[euanli]

The sad thing is you know that is an utter lie, as does anyone who watched the interviews yesterday.

I forgot about all those nice things about Pippo last year too

 

[sublimit]

I look at this victory the same way Cav see's all Greipels victories in those ****ty little races, this was a ****ty WC course which was an embarrasment to the Jersey it represents.

Clearly the course was a joke but Cav and the British team can only do their job.
Plenty of other sprinters also got an armchair ride but blew their chance by being too slow or badly positioned or both.

Points winner in the Tour and Vuelta, has an M-S-R plenty of GT stage wins so he's a worthy World champ in my eyes.

 

[Anonymous]

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My post said I wasn't hating on Cav. I like him. Not sure where you got that bolded part from.

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I guess we just have a difference of opinion of what a chance to win a race is.

If you are going to make an argument that GB riders have never come close to winning a classic, you cant say "winning a classic except san remo" just to suit the argument.

I would say Thomas did come close in Flanders, he was in the mix over the final stages, but made, possibly the wrong decision to ride for Flecha over the closing K's, he came in in the group 8s down on the eventual three podium placers, that for me is pretty darn close. Stannard in Kuurne was in a group of three with 200 metres to go but got outsprinted.

as for the grand tours. You cant ignore the Vuelta just because GB got 2nd and 3rd.

The giro, FIVE british riders involved (including at least 2 riding their first ever grand tour). THREE stage wins (equalled by italy, and only bettered by spain), and a rider in the PINK JERSEY.

The Tour, multiple days in the white young riders jersey, a combativity award, the green jersey, and five stage wins (more than any other country) all without Britains most likely GC contender.

The vuelta, 2nd and 3rd overall, and a stage win

9 Grand Tour stage wins, 2 final podiums, a points classification, and several days in leaders, and best young riders jersey.

Yeh, GB are crap in the classics and the grand tours.

 

[Anonymous]

very nicely done . Did you have those comments stored up or just quick on the search.

Really? Are you serious????????? I can't believe your ignorance.

Really?? Lets have a look at some of your posts during the Mendrisio WC.

A lot of snide remarks and back handed compliments in those posts. Nice work hypocrite.

Of course, what would be more interesting would be if you put some times and dates on those comments, where they happenened in respect of the timing of the race. What other peoples comments were, if smileys were used and in what context the comments were meant in, who they were replying to etc, and of course my comments after the race had actually happened along with my twitter comments.

Its very easy to take part of what I said and make it appear in whichever was you want it to.

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how about these two quotes

shocked... but, ive never been a fan of cadel, mainly due to his rather uninteresting riding style.. give him his due, he attacked today and got the reward.. maybe he will sit back and think if he had been more like that during his career he may have a few more wins.. so credit where credits due.. i just feel a litlte sick..

i made you youre own gloating thread btw

you are a good sport especially for a pom

http://t.co/iydUjV3i

At least when i quote I give the full story. Sorry mate. You fail.

 

[simo1733]

There we go. Many are saying that Cvendish is a true champion just by his wins, but it seems that they fail to see the classless fool he is. I think right now the people that say the course was good or anything other than it was a suckish course are Cavendish fanboys who are all hyped up on his win.

This cry-baby's arrogant attitude is what devalues the donning of the rainbow jersey. Yeah he can say he's the world champion, but what good is saying that on a course that wasn't even that selective. I for one am not impressed. It's something that makes me go "so what. you won on a course that's like any other stage in any race. you want to impress me, you should have won last year."

I'm guessing that he doesn't want to impress you.Why would he?

 

[El Pistolero]

Obviously that's up for debate, regardless to say he wasn't happy was silly. For starters not everyone is the same in showing there emotions even though he was clearly happy. I understand some people find him arrogant ( as do I ) and find him childish and a bad loser these are all plenty good reasons to dislike him but it doesn't mean everything he does has to be put down or ripped apart. He will be limited I
n how he can "respect" the jersey nxt year as he's the fastest bunch sprinter around so he will be in the bunch but that's not his fault that's the fault of the race route yesterday.

Cavendish will earn my respect if I see him outside the peloton for once. And I don't mean behind it, but in front of it

That's the only reason why I dislike Cavendish. Not because he's British, not because he's gloomy, not because he's arrogant, not because he's a funny guy, but only because of his racing style.

Greipel for example I really like. He went into a breakaway in the Driedaagse van de Panne and he won. He did the same in the Tour of Turkey. Even in Paris-Brussel he went into the attack! The stage he won in the Tour was pretty impressive as well because it wasn't just a flat stage, it had real obstacles in it and the race it self was great to look at even if it ended in a bunch sprint. He was also up there in Paris-Roubaix for a long time and actively riding up front. And unlike Cavendish he actually works a lot for his team mates like Philippe Gilbert.

Just because you're a sprinter doesn't mean you have to be a boring cyclist! There are plenty of interesting sprinters out there like Hushovd(though I wouldn't call him a real sprinter anymore, but in 2009 he definitely still was one), Tom Boonen and Greipel.

Ps: I'll rephrase my self. Cavendish was happy, but he just has a bad way of showing it sometimes

 

[ScottyMuser]

Cavendish will earn my respect if I see him outside the peloton for once. And I don't mean behind it, but in front of it

Did you watch stage 16 into Gap on the Tour - the one Cav soloed over a cat 2 less than 90 secs slower than Andy Schleck - with not a single helper anywhere near him? When all the other out and out sprinters stayed in the autobus resting, he went solo, seemingly to prove a point - or are you also going to claim that that shouldn't count, and that Cav is still only capable of winning pan flat sprint stages where his leadout works?

 

[dlwssonic]

Did you watch stage 16 into Gap on the Tour - the one Cav soloed over a cat 2 less than 90 secs slower than Andy Schleck - with not a single helper anywhere near him? When all the other out and out sprinters stayed in the autobus resting, he went solo, seemingly to prove a point - or are you also going to claim that that shouldn't count, and that Cav is still only capable of winning pan flat sprint stages where his leadout works?

I think you should read his post again.

 

[BM1979]

Did you watch stage 16 into Gap on the Tour - the one Cav soloed over a cat 2 less than 90 secs slower than Andy Schleck - with not a single helper anywhere near him? When all the other out and out sprinters stayed in the autobus resting, he went solo, seemingly to prove a point - or are you also going to claim that that shouldn't count, and that Cav is still only capable of winning pan flat sprint stages where his leadout works?

I seen it , showed what a arrogant git he is , The point I got was something like this.

Look I can make it over the climbs if I want to, but I am Cav, why should I when I can just get towed by the team Car

 

[rhubroma]

Yeah, he's not European enough. He speaks English too! Disgusting. Don't the English know this is a European sport?

No but seriously, get used to it.

Yea, right, like when Lemond one the Worlds twice or when Evans claimed the victory. Same thing I suppose.

I will say this about the guy, however, he will certainly wear the jersey after such a race without compunction and actually believe he has a class that he doesn't, to then go on to say "I'm the world champion, so I don't have to finish races if I'm not so inclined and if it's not what I'm here to do and get paid for: namely, win sprints"... especially to the Italian and Spanish press.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Yea, right, like when Lemond one the Worlds twice or when Evans claimed the victory. Same thing I suppose.

I will say this about the guy, however, he will certainly wear the jersey after such a race without compunction and actually believe he has a class that he doesn't, to then go on to say "I'm the world champion, so I don't have to finish races if I'm not so inclined and if it's not what I'm here to do and get paid for: namely, win sprints"... especially to the Italian and Spanish press.

So, the World Championships should also be decided on personality - perhaps the UCI could do away with the national seeding and hand out invites based on a 300 word essay, "Why I would like to be the World Champion".

As for Cav, you seem to ignore that he went on and finished MSR when he had the number 1 on his back even though he was not in top form and had crashed twice and that he participates in Flanders every year.

 

[El Pistolero]

So, the World Championships should also be decided on personality - perhaps the UCI could do away with the national seeding and hand out invites based on a 300 word essay, "Why I would like to be the World Champion".

As for Cav, you seem to ignore that he went on and finished MSR when he had the number 1 on his back even though he was not in top form and had crashed twice and that he participates in Flanders every year.

Could have fooled me.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Could have fooled me.

You are doing that all by yourself.

 

[Ragerod]

Did you watch stage 16 into Gap on the Tour - the one Cav soloed over a cat 2 less than 90 secs slower than Andy Schleck - with not a single helper anywhere near him? When all the other out and out sprinters stayed in the autobus resting, he went solo, seemingly to prove a point - or are you also going to claim that that shouldn't count, and that Cav is still only capable of winning pan flat sprint stages where his leadout works?

I seen it , showed what a arrogant git he is , The point I got was something like this.

Look I can make it over the climbs if I want to, but I am Cav, why should I when I can just get towed by the team Car

These two are classics examples of people making things up to suit a particular opinion and it seems to happen more often than not with Cavendish.

Why does a point have to be made? Put simply he hung with the peloton for as long as possible because decent points were available at the finish. T.Mart was in the break; Velits finished with the group of favourites; Bak, Pate, Goss, TJVG and Renshaw were given the day off; and Eisel stayed with Cavendish. Therefore Cavendish only had to feel better than Eisel to go solo.

Cavendish still came in some two minutes down on Evans and Contador but his relatively high placing had more to do with half the peloton sitting up as soon as Contador attacked. Trying to stay with the lead group because there are points on offer for the competition the guy is trying to win is the sensible thing to do. At no point was a point being made, the guy was simply racing. Something he gets criticised for not doing often enough on this forum.