Teams & Riders The official Egan Bernal is the new Egan Bernal thread

[Climbing]

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Tour and Giro both just got worse.

Yeah, exactly.

 

[fuiers]

Damn. Well that sucks.

 

[Lequack]

Wait why did the Tour get worse?

 

[johnymax]

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Wait why did the Tour get worse?

Probably because Ineos got better (with the addition of Bernal to the Tour team) and therefore it'll be easier for them to control the race.

 

[KZD]

Poor guy
I guess it will be Tour as a superdom plus Vuelta with freedom (but maybe too tired)

 

[Escarabajo]

I hope this is not a Colombian thing. Crashes have been part of their life early in the careers. For all the same except for Quintana.
Hope for a quick recovery.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Bernal will be part of the train gang....
Quelle surprise.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Valv.Piti]

Oh ffs. FFS. First Valverde, then Bernal. I really had look forward to this Giro and my two favourite riders are out before it all begins.

As RR said, Giro and Tour just got worse. No arguing that one, unless Sky 3 captains it like Astana 2009 and does a 1-2-3. That would actually be hilarious.

 

[gregrowlerson]

A broken collarbone in early March and you can still be good in the Tour. But in early May? Surely commonsense prevails and Egan gets to focus fully on the Vuelta now. Sky should already have a strong enough team (not to mention 2 leaders) in July.

P.S. Really thought that Bernal was a great chance to podium the Giro. Disappointing that he won't be there.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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A broken collarbone in early March and you can still be good in the Tour. But in early May? Surely commonsense prevails and Egan gets to focus fully on the Vuelta now. Sky should already have a strong enough team (not to mention 2 leaders) in July.

P.S. Really thought that Bernal was a great chance to podium the Giro. Disappointing that he won't be there.

In 2011 (i think) Van den Broeck crashed in the Tour, broke his shoulder, broke some ribs and punctured his lung. About 40 days later he started the Vuelta and finished 8th in the GC. Obviously, it wasn't an ideal circumstance, and i think he would have been on the podium of the TDF that year (so 8th in the Vuelta was merely a consolation), but still, it shows how fast these guys can get back. And Bernal has 60 days.

But not all broken collarbones are the same. Depends on the fracture itself. But i think in the best circumstances, he could get ready in 3 to 4 weeks.

 

[Koronin]

I think it's possible. Plus he should be able to ride on his trainer.

 

[dastott]

Wiggins also broke his collarbone in the 2011 TdF and subsequently finished 3rd in the Vuelta that year.

 

[SafeBet]

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Tour and Giro both just got worse.

Terrible news indeed.

 

[tobydawq]

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Tour and Giro both just got worse.

Hmm, you're implying there would have been something good about them before? High praise from Red Rick.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

Tour and Giro both just got worse.

Hmm, you're implying there would have been something good about them before? High praise from Red Rick.

I can get credit for giving praise while complaining about something.

It's the best of both worlds.

 

[Salvarani]

Please dont send him to Tour

Only Vuelta instead

 

[Nirvana]

He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

I guess thats the positive side - he will now most likely do the Vuelta and use the Tour as 'training' while being the 4-5th best climber in the race.

 

[Red Rick]

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He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

I guess thats the positive side - he will now most likely do the Vuelta and use the Tour as 'training' while being the 4-5th best climber in the race.

He's 22.

How many 22 year olds casually reach top shape in the Vuelta after slaving a Tour?

Vuelta GC will be extremely hard if he rides the Tour. I think his chances of podiuming a GT this year are better in the Tour than the Vuelta. It's not inconceivable that one of Thomas/Froome *** the bed (prolly Thomas) and they keep Bernal up in GC too for tactical leverage etc.

 

[pastronef]

Re: Re:

He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

I guess thats the positive side - he will now most likely do the Vuelta and use the Tour as 'training' while being the 4-5th best climber in the race.

He's 22.

How many 22 year olds casually reach top shape in the Vuelta after slaving a Tour?

Vuelta GC will be extremely hard if he rides the Tour. I think his chances of podiuming a GT this year are better in the Tour than the Vuelta. It's not inconceivable that one of Thomas/Froome **** the bed (prolly Thomas) and they keep Bernal up in GC too for tactical leverage etc.

"slaving" ahahahha

in any other team we´d praise his work, but no, he will be slaving there. spare a thought for poor Astanas and Sunwebs and Mitcheltons and Movistars riders who had to slave in GTs to help their teammate win the race in the past seasons too

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

I guess thats the positive side - he will now most likely do the Vuelta and use the Tour as 'training' while being the 4-5th best climber in the race.

He's 22.

How many 22 year olds casually reach top shape in the Vuelta after slaving a Tour?

Vuelta GC will be extremely hard if he rides the Tour. I think his chances of podiuming a GT this year are better in the Tour than the Vuelta. It's not inconceivable that one of Thomas/Froome **** the bed (prolly Thomas) and they keep Bernal up in GC too for tactical leverage etc.

"slaving" ahahahha

in any other team we´d praise his work, but no, he will be slaving there. spare a thought for poor Astanas and Sunwebs and Mitcheltons and Movistars riders who had to slave in GTs to help their teammate win the race in the past seasons too

The difference is, I can easily see Bernal finishing off the podium in the tour this year while being the strongest rider. It's simply ridiculous a rider of his caliber is number three in the pecking order for the tour.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

He was already supposed to go to the Tour after the Giro, I don't think that is going to change much, well he could even be a bit worse than expected if the recover isn't fast enough.

I guess thats the positive side - he will now most likely do the Vuelta and use the Tour as 'training' while being the 4-5th best climber in the race.

He's 22.

How many 22 year olds casually reach top shape in the Vuelta after slaving a Tour?

Vuelta GC will be extremely hard if he rides the Tour. I think his chances of podiuming a GT this year are better in the Tour than the Vuelta. It's not inconceivable that one of Thomas/Froome **** the bed (prolly Thomas) and they keep Bernal up in GC too for tactical leverage etc.

"slaving" ahahahha

in any other team we´d praise his work, but no, he will be slaving there. spare a thought for poor Astanas and Sunwebs and Mitcheltons and Movistars riders who had to slave in GTs to help their teammate win the race in the past seasons too

If Egan Bernal had to waste say 80% of his remaining GT chances of winning a GT to put ride for Adam Yates or Jakob Fuglsang I'd call that slaving too.

 

[IndianCyclist]

He is having too many crashes. Potential may go unfulfilled if it continues

 

[luckyboy]

Bernal is back and breaking David de la Cruz's Strava KOM on the Coll de la Gallina by 56 seconds ten days after his crash!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/egan-bernal-well-on-road-to-recovery-after-breaking-collarbone/