Meh. The flat part wasnt that long at all and only De Plus would have lead that group probably. Bernal wanted to win the stage properly as well.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
Yeah it was everyone for themselves at that stage. Unless he completely blew up on the final climb he would’ve won anyway.Valv.Piti said:Meh. The flat part wasnt that long at all and only De Plus would have lead that group probably. Bernal wanted to win the stage properly as well.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
Actually think he would have had a larger gap at the finish.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
There is no lottery. He worked hard on the Iseran and built a significant gap and lets not forget hat he had Simon Yates with him as well who was interested in the stage win so I think that these two could've stayed away. I think that maybe Thomas would've attacked late and closed some of the gap, but not catched Bernal anymore.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
Agree. Theres a little asterisk which just sucks so much ass tho. I just hopes he wants to prove he is the best tomorrow.AlexNYC said:He was the strongest climber by far at this point, had yellow, and nothing but mountains before Paris. Kind of ridiculous to say he won the lottery.
There are no asterisks. I mean it is a sport done outside and weather is always going to have an impact on the race (be it a wind, rain, heat, cold, landslides etc).Valv.Piti said:Agree. Theres a little asterisk which just sucks so much *** tho. I just hopes he wants to prove he is the best tomorrow.AlexNYC said:He was the strongest climber by far at this point, had yellow, and nothing but mountains before Paris. Kind of ridiculous to say he won the lottery.
100% agree.Valv.Piti said:Meh. The flat part wasnt that long at all and only De Plus would have lead that group probably. Bernal wanted to win the stage properly as well.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
This.AlexNYC said:He was the strongest climber by far at this point, had yellow, and nothing but mountains before Paris. Kind of ridiculous to say he won the lottery.
Play it safe, secure 1/2 is prolly priority?Valv.Piti said:It seems Bernal doesnt get the stage which I guess is fair enough. Does that mean he would want to win tomorrow?
Thinking Alaf will crack a bit without them having to do too much. Then you just have to worry about Kruiswijk, but I dont know, he doesnt really have that top level to challenge Thomas I feel. He is more of a follower. Just dont hope we have a Ventoux scenario from 2009 after this debacle, would feel so wrong after such a relatively good Tour.Red Rick said:Play it safe, secure 1/2 is prolly priority?Valv.Piti said:It seems Bernal doesnt get the stage which I guess is fair enough. Does that mean he would want to win tomorrow?
Could do both anyway
If he wants a shot at polka dots maybe, but if the right break goes I doubt he or Ineos will care.Valv.Piti said:It seems Bernal doesnt get the stage which I guess is fair enough. Does that mean he would want to win tomorrow?
I think he would have got a larger gap at the foot of the last climb, with Kruijswijk and above all Thomas possibly taking part of that time back on the climb itself as Bernal would have been more tired.Bonimenier said:Actually think he would have had a larger gap at the finish.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
The big question is if Yates would have trusted him, he could have dropped him on the final climb after getting some help on the flat. In the end it's anyones guess.hrotha said:I think he would have got a larger gap at the foot of the last climb, with Kruijswijk and above all Thomas possibly taking part of that time back on the climb itself as Bernal would have been more tired.Bonimenier said:Actually think he would have had a larger gap at the finish.ppanther92 said:Ok, just about won the lottery today. He for sure would have had a hard time at the flat section against the group. Now a pretty good lead.
But the flat section wouldn't have been a problem. It wouldn't have been Bernal against the group, it would have been Bernal and Yates (if Bernal was smart and traded the stage win for Yates's cooperation) against De Plus, who was in the break. Thomas wouldn't pull to bring back his teammate (even though he'd love to), and Kruijswijk wouldn't pull personally as long as Thomas was there, IMO.
All in all, I doubt the early finish made Bernal lose a lot of time, though, except relative to Alaphilippe. This feeling that no one in particular was robbed is part of what makes the whole affair not too bad or unfair.
If he doesn’t work, for sure he doesn’t win. If he works, the chance of winning goes up exponentially whether legitimately or as a gift. In any event, Bernal’s biggest challenger is G’s ego at this pointyaco said:No way Yates would work with Bernal in the valley - He may have worked with him on the final climb.
Yates wanted to be overtaken by the poursuivants?yaco said:No way Yates would work with Bernal in the valley - He may have worked with him on the final climb.
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