Lemond won more after than before. Though I take your point.
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The other difference is that Lemmond was more dominant than Bernal.
Bernal won a Tour that I think was a transitional one.
In the Giro, he suffered in the mountains with Carusso, something that wouldn't have happened to a dominant rider.
Without the accident, I think Bernal wouldn't be a favorite for a Tour today either.
He´d be a candidate for the podium, I don't know if he was more or less than Roglic or Remco, but many Bernal fans think that without the accident, he´d be more at the level of Pogacar and Vingegaard than Remco and Rogli in GT, and I think it's quite the opposite.
Bernal won a Tour that I think was a transitional one.
In the Giro, he suffered in the mountains with Carusso, something that wouldn't have happened to a dominant rider.
Without the accident, I think Bernal wouldn't be a favorite for a Tour today either.
He´d be a candidate for the podium, I don't know if he was more or less than Roglic or Remco, but many Bernal fans think that without the accident, he´d be more at the level of Pogacar and Vingegaard than Remco and Rogli in GT, and I think it's quite the opposite.
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I really like Bernal, but I agree with this. There was a bit of star-aligning happening with his Tour win, too. We don't know what would have happened without the Tignes cancellation and Pinot DNF.
He was only 22 at the time though, so there was an expectation that he would continue to improve, but now that we have a lot of hindsight to benefit from we can see that he didn't really take another step even before his injury.
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Is it sacrilege if I think Bernal wasn't better than Quintana peak vs peak and Quintana was just way less lucky racing against Sky in Froome's best TdF years?
I wonder if Arensman was actually stronger.
He had to stop twice I think and made it back on his own again to the Ayuso group. Very strong performance from him.
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I don't see it. He was handed a golden opportunity but got blown off the wheels and then couldn't hold the faster climbers from the main group at the end either.
That was his 'moment', basically. Now he'll be forced into long range attempts with a bit of a roll of the dice.
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But he had it harder than the climbers from the main group by being in the smaller group that was in the attack.
Say what you will, but the Colombian who was closest to win the TdF before Bernal was actually Urán
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Uran Uran decided graciously he would just be too cool to handle if he won the TdF and that's why he let Froome have it.Say what you will, but the Colombian who was closest to win the TdF before Bernal was actually Urán
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Peak Quintana had to face pretty much peak Froome and he would've easily won the Tour vs Bernal's competition in 2019.
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much and all as I love Nairoman I dont see him beating Bernal 2019. For one thing he couldnt TT like Foome, G, Pog, Rog, Vingegaard and Bernal
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There was only one moderate ITT then. Look at whom Bernal beat in 2019 and with what margins (yeah, Kruijswijk and Buchmann were 1.5-2 min back), this was the weakest edition in recent memory. Then look at Quintana's performance in 2015 and 2013 (and his top notch rivals). I can't see how peak Quintana loses to Bernal's rivals in 2019.
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Was a hard crash from Bernal in the TT. Luckily, his collarbone stayed intact with the way he crashed. Hope they checked for possible concussion too.
Was a hard crash from Bernal in the TT. Luckily, his collarbone stayed intact with the way he crashed. Hope they checked for possible concussion too.
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Ouch.
We can see how quickly concussion protocol™ works in modern pro cycling. He banged his head on the tarmac there and his mechanics knew immediately he was fine and good to go.
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I knew he had crashed but didn't think it was that hard.
All things considered he did a fine TT yesterday.
All things considered he did a fine TT yesterday.
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I guess that has more to do with Ayuso's fading, since even Ciccone was on Ayuso's time, but I'll take it.
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I wish him only good luck from now on
He is in mighty form but has terrible luck
He is one of my favourite people in the peloton ...the heart of a lion
He is in mighty form but has terrible luck
He is one of my favourite people in the peloton ...the heart of a lion
This is how I feel. I find him so inspirational, when you think about everything he has been through. He is really looking good so far, I can't wait to see what happens in the mountains!
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It will be interesting to see on how well Bernal does in mountains, seems to be in an upward trajectory!
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What the hell have they given Bernal and the Ineos riders this Giro, do they all have Stefano Pirazzi brainchips inserted? Just attacking any climb that shows up on the route. At least they distanced Roglič today, but they are riding on the verge of insanity.
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