The official Great Bauke Mollema thread

[Bushman]

No one would have gone as fast, so it's a bit of a useless statement.

BTW he's been riding every stage on an aero road bike ever since the Tour de Suisse, which might explain why he did so well when the climb flattened out

Well, i just can't follow the logic that mollema would have lost less time had the climb been longer, when froome is clearly the better climber of the two.

 

[sagard]

Can Mollema time trial? Hope he does well Tuesday.

 

[classicomano]

When it matters Mollema can do a decent TT, top 20/30 for sure. And its not like his fellow competitors are awesome TT'ers anyway.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Can Mollema time trial? Hope he does well Tuesday.

Last time he encountered a competitive TT in a GT was in Vuelta 2011:

ITT Salamanca 47kms

1 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad 0:55:54
2 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:59
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:01:22
4 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Leopard Trek 0:01:27
5 Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:01:33
6 Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Leopard Trek 0:01:37
25 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:03:09

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

yep, that's where he'll finish somewhere... 30km so 2 minutes on froome

 

[The Blues]

If Fuglsang repeats that result, I'll definitely be satisfied.

That's off-topcis, though... my apologies. It will be ineresting to see how the two Belkin-boys performs in the upcoming time trial.

 

[Taxus4a]

Last time he encountered a competitive TT in a GT was in Vuelta 2011:

ITT Salamanca 47kms

1 Tony Martin (Ger) HTC-Highroad 0:55:54
2 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:59
3 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:01:22
4 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Leopard Trek 0:01:27
5 Taylor Phinney (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:01:33
6 Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Leopard Trek 0:01:37
25 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team 0:03:09

Long one...and 2:10 with Froome, it is not a too much, he could lost with him 1.30 or less on Wednesday.

He must be confident in his chances, he was ok in that way in Suisse this year, on the attack.

 

[Taxus4a]

If Fuglsang repeats that result, I'll definitely be satisfied.

That's off-topcis, though... my apologies. It will be ineresting to see how the two Belkin-boys performs in the upcoming time trial.

This is as well off topic... but, tehere are a thread for every stage, there is a trhead for every rider..but there is not a thread to tlak about the TdF in general, tactics, future, what have happends...so.. is it the way here??

Your post will be good there...

This way to disscuss is amazing for me...

 

[TheEnoculator]

Mollema is a pure climber. Pure climbers routinely lose time in time trials to the real GC guys, it's just a matter of how much time.

I think Mollema will do well in tomorrow's TT by his own standards, but will lose at least 1.5 minutes to Froome (I won't say 2 minutes since Mollema has surprised me in the past).

 

[l.Harm]

Actually when he's fighting for GC he does pretty good in TT's.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

yeah but he will still lose 1.30/2 minutes

But i don't believe Valverde will fare much better. Nor do I have much faith in Contador or Kreuziger in flat itt's. Neither have done well in them lately.
Costa, Kwiatkowski and others however... but they are further back

Ofcourse Froome will crush but Mollema doesn't really need to look to froome. Nor does he need to look at Contador or Valverde. I think 5th place is pretty much the maximum unless Contador keeps sucking

 

[wwabbit]

Actually when he's fighting for GC he does pretty good in TT's.

I've had to see for myself and *gasp* look what I've found:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=112304

 

[Gloin22]

That wwas very hilly TT, unlike tomorrow.

Mollema should do very well in 2nd TT, this one he won't be special imo, but won't be much worse than other GC contenders.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

In a completely flat ITT like tomorrow he won't do much worse as Valverde/Contador etc (unless Contador finds his old ITT legs somehow).
Froome, Kwiat and other pure ITT specialists will win a lot of time though.

Besides, with Mollema I realistically expect him to finish more in 7/8th in the next mountain stages. Not always top 5. Ten Dam even slightly worse.

Btw. According to Delahaye, Mollema canpush 6.1 w/kg on a mountain in top form. Froome 6.4..
He's nowhere near not even on a top day

 

[Gloin22]

In a completely flat ITT like tomorrow he won't do much worse as Valverde/Contador etc (unless Contador finds his old ITT legs somehow).
Froome, Kwiat and other pure ITT specialists will win a lot of time though.

Besides, with Mollema I realistically expect him to finish more in 7/8th in the next mountain stages. Not always top 5. Ten Dam even slightly worse.

Btw. According to Delahaye, Mollema canpush 6.1 w/kg on a mountain in top form. Froome 6.4..
He's nowhere near not even on a top day

That's still preety good, those numbers are very similar to what Nibali did at last year Tour's iirc.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Sky goes faster tho, at least Porte does. Does that try to follow blow up. Rodriguez, Contador etc could've limited damage if they went at own pace sooner

 

[jens_attacks]

i admit though that ten dam looks in excellent shape for the mountains, skinny as voeckler last year or even more. both him and mollema can finish top 5 this tour, best combo rabo had since rasmussen-menchov
always liked tough ten dam, i wish he could podium and win alpe no more time for beer this time hehe

 

[classicomano]

i admit though that ten dam looks in excellent shape for the mountains, skinny as voeckler last year or even more. both him and mollema can finish top 5 this tour, best combo rabo had since rasmussen-menchov
always liked tough ten dam, i wish he could podium and win alpe no more time for beer this time hehe

Didnt he already win on Alpe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqoWNVzu8Ss

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

i admit though that ten dam looks in excellent shape for the mountains, skinny as voeckler last year or even more. both him and mollema can finish top 5 this tour, best combo rabo had since rasmussen-menchov
always liked tough ten dam, i wish he could podium and win alpe no more time for beer this time hehe

Actually, the combo Menchov/Gesink was the best result ever for Rabobank in the Tour. (Menchov 3rd, Gesink 6ht in the same tdf)

 

[Taxus4a]

In a completely flat ITT like tomorrow he won't do much worse as Valverde/Contador etc (unless Contador finds his old ITT legs somehow).
Froome, Kwiat and other pure ITT specialists will win a lot of time though.

Besides, with Mollema I realistically expect him to finish more in 7/8th in the next mountain stages. Not always top 5. Ten Dam even slightly worse.

Btw. According to Delahaye, Mollema canpush 6.1 w/kg on a mountain in top form. Froome 6.4..
He's nowhere near not even on a top day

Well, this wasnt totally flat, but quite flat...

He did ok

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=19862

Ok here as well, but short one:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=20558

Tomorrow he could do top 20.

 

[jens_attacks]

Actually, the combo Menchov/Gesink was the best result ever for Rabobank in the Tour. (Menchov 3rd, Gesink 6ht in the same tdf)

yes but rasmussen-menchov was more awesome. now put there boogie man and turbo diesel and it's something divine

 

[DenisMenchov]

yes but rasmussen-menchov was more awesome. now put there boogie man and turbo diesel and it's something divine

Oh, those were the times.

But hey, we have Mollema now so not everything is lost for the Dutch team.

 

[theyoungest]

Btw. According to Delahaye, Mollema canpush 6.1 w/kg on a mountain in top form. Froome 6.4..
He's nowhere near not even on a top day

How does Delahaye know? Mollema never races with an SRM. And in training I don't think he can push himself as hard as, say, Gesink.

Mollema must have been at around 6 w/kg on Saturday, so it's not too far off the mark. Of course, it all depends on the length of the climb and the difficulty of the stage, so it's a bit of a useless number.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

That's old info theyoungest. He did different training this year after realizing he couldn't follow Sky on Prato di Tivo.
With power meter and with data, although not figure obsessed as Gesink

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Bump.

Mollema best of te non-alien GC riders