The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

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Polish said:
Ok, I will take the bait....

Why would I not be here?

Didn't you and the Hog have a debate about if Armstrong would finish MSR? Hog stepped up and said he would leave if Armstrong finished. Considering your resulting tauting,, that proved completely incorrect, it would only be honorable if you backed away from the keyboard.
 

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Race Radio said:
Didn't you and the Hog have a debate about if Armstrong would finish MSR? Hog stepped up and said he would leave if Armstrong finished. Considering your resulting tauting,, that proved completely incorrect, it would only be honorable if you backed away from the keyboard.

Oh please.

There was no debate between The Hog and I.

The Hog is continually flinging poop at Armstrong.
And one time some poop actually sticks/squirts on the wall.

Big deal.
 
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Didn't you and the Hog have a debate about if Armstrong would finish MSR? Hog stepped up and said he would leave if Armstrong finished. Considering your resulting tauting,, that proved completely incorrect, it would only be honorable if you backed away from the keyboard.

Don't remember it that way, but of course you would, being such an awesome crusader for the one true path of hating absolutely anything to do with armstrong - not that you get utterly boring and predictable with your excessive posting on that.
 
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+1

And many times the trolls will try to minimize the quantity of "some people" by claiming they are only sockpuppets of "one person". Sockpuppet Phobia. Sockpuppet Phobes. Eeeek Eeeeek - its a sockpuppet! It is not suprising that they have sockpuppets themselves lol.

But back on topic....Lance.....MilanSanRemo....
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, great English Poet, Critic and Writer. 1709-1784)

“It is better to DNS and be thought a wussy, than DNF and remove all doubt.”

LOL :D

I believe this version is very well suited
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
...um....because that is how most people are judged, on who they are. His story is not inspiring to me. He is a living, breathing example that a narcissistic a$$hole can survive cancer and win races. Sorry, but color me impressed.

is the "color me impressed" just a Freudian slip?

No, my intention was to be mockingly dismissive.
 
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thehog said:
Armstrong will continue to suck the life out of the support and squeeze every last cent he can before he walks away...

How ironic. The people behind Radio Shack are finally learning what it feels like to hand out your cash and get an absolutely useless, unproductive, $hit product in return.
 
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progressor said:
Don't remember it that way, but of course you would, being such an awesome crusader for the one true path of hating absolutely anything to do with armstrong - not that you get utterly boring and predictable with your excessive posting on that.

Hating?

Is it hating to question his treatment of Simenoi, Vassuer, Andreau, Bassons or were you cool with that?

Is it hating to question when he harasses an assistant until he has a seizure, or are you OK with that type of behavior?

When he invents a French Conspiracy to explain positive tests and dumped dope is it hating to question the validity of these obvious lies?

As you like to point out, post not the poster. If you feel that I have posted anything incorrect then please show us an alternative view.

You call it hating, most call it pointing out the obvious.
 
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I'm not, I'm just asking what I think is a reasonable question.

Really, because what you are defending is the idea that a sportsman who is humble and exemplary in his/her behavior not being an example one should tell their children about. I mean, it is not that I am ignorant of the fact that I have the most influential example to my child, I am his parent. However, my son loves sports, and to suggest that one should never offer up a person such as David Robinson (my son loves basketball) as an example of how one should conduct themselves on and off the court is just stupid.

I don't have the space to write a complete picture of my philosophy of parenting, so maybe give me a break when I merely state that Mr Armstrong is not someone who I would suggest my son follow in terms of sporting attitude and personality. And also consider that I never addressed you in anything I wrote.
 
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...um....because that is how most people are judged, on who they are. His story is not inspiring to me. He is a living, breathing example that a narcissistic a$$hole can survive cancer and win races. Sorry, but color me impressed. Then again, I am sure that when one such as yourself recognizes a person of similar character, you are inspired.

As to how I raise my children, you can ***

Parent as you wish, but as a father of a girl who might meet your son one day I urge you to teach your son to distinguish admiring the positive traits of a public persona from admiring the character of a person you actually know.

If what one admires about a public sports persona would be affected by an OJ, Tiger, or even Lance-douche type of disappointing character revelation then I suggest the admiration is misplaced.
 
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Parent as you wish, but as a father of a girl who might meet your son one day I urge you to teach your son to distinguish admiring the positive traits of a public persona from admiring the character of a person you actually know.

If what one admires about a public sports persona would be affected by an OJ, Tiger, or even Lance-douche type of disappointing character revelation then I suggest the admiration is misplaced.

Holy crap, you really think you have a corner on parenting? As a father of a son who might meet your daughter, teach her not to be a douchebag...actually, do it for humanity.

Oh, and people disappoint. It is kind of a human thing. We all do it. Some are just more egregious in their actions. Good luck not disappointing your kid. You will be the first to ever accomplish that...or not.
 

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Really, because what you are defending is the idea that a sportsman who is humble and exemplary in his/her behavior not being an example one should tell their children about. I mean, it is not that I am ignorant of the fact that I have the most influential example to my child, I am his parent. However, my son loves sports, and to suggest that one should never offer up a person such as David Robinson (my son loves basketball) as an example of how one should conduct themselves on and off the court is just stupid.

I don't have the space to write a complete picture of my philosophy of parenting, so maybe give me a break when I merely state that Mr Armstrong is not someone who I would suggest my son follow in terms of sporting attitude and personality. And also consider that I never addressed you in anything I wrote.

I think if you make a comment on a forum everybody is entitled to give their opinion on it. If you wanted a private correspondence then you should have PMed the individual.

As for Armstrong, he was a hot head when he was younger and admits he is still highly strung, as top sportsman often are, but in almost every interview in recent years he's been quite honest and humble about himself. He's never going to be mary poppins, but the act of coming back at his age against the odds is itself a very humble thing to do for such a dominant champ. Fair enough you don't like people who like to win, but professional sport is often like that - if you don't like it then you should only follow amateur sport. That's my view.
 
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I think if you make a comment on a forum everybody is entitled to give their opinion on it. If you wanted a private correspondence then you should have PMed the individual.

As for Armstrong, he was a hot head when he was younger and admits he is still highly strung, as top sportsman often are, but in almost every interview in recent years he's been quite honest and humble about himself. He's never going to be mary poppins, but the act of coming back at his age against the odds is itself a very humble thing to do for such a dominant champ. Fair enough you don't like people who like to win, but professional sport is often like that - if you don't like it then you should only follow amateur sport. That's my view.

Well, since you commented on a thread and are open to opinion of your comments, your view is stupid. You also cannot read; I never said I don't like people who win. Fail.

...the act of coming back at his age is humble?....um, I thought it was all about cancer? He came back because he needs adulation like a junkie needs heroin.
 
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Okay, I have a fix for this. I will pull out the 'ole douchebag subtractor. Won't be reading either of your inane comments any longer. Man I love the ignore function.
 
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I think if you make a comment on a forum everybody is entitled to give their opinion on it. If you wanted a private correspondence then you should have PMed the individual.

As for Armstrong, he was a hot head when he was younger and admits he is still highly strung, as top sportsman often are, but in almost every interview in recent years he's been quite honest and humble about himself. He's never going to be mary poppins, but the act of coming back at his age against the odds is itself a very humble thing to do for such a dominant champ. Fair enough you don't like people who like to win, but professional sport is often like that - if you don't like it then you should only follow amateur sport. That's my view.

Aren't you just a little disappointed by the actions of Mr. Armstrong ever since he announced this comeback?

the rivalry between him and Contador is not very mutual and it has been very ugly. I wouldn't call it a humble thing to do.

Having said that I must admit I still have a lot of feelings regarding Armstrong. I used to be a big fan of him but at this moment I need be reminded why.
 
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Aren't you just a little disappointed by the actions of Mr. Armstrong ever since he announced this comeback?

the rivalry between him and Contador is not very mutual and it has been very ugly. I wouldn't call it a humble thing to do.

Having said that I must admit I still have a lot of feelings regarding Armstrong. I used to be a big fan of him but at this moment I need be reminded why.

Many of us were.
 
Bike Boy said:
Having said that I must admit I still have a lot of feelings regarding Armstrong. I used to be a big fan of him but at this moment I need be reminded why.
You might think about why you would ever be a fan of any public sports persona. I repeat, if what one admires about a public sports persona would be affected by a disappointing revelation regarding the person's character I suggest the original admiration is misplaced.

All I ever admired regarding Armstrong was not the person but the story of hope and perseverance about winning the Tour after beating cancer, so I can never be disappointed by anything he the person does.

Suit yourselves but that distinction makes a lot of sense to me.
 
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You might think about why you would ever be a fan of any public sports persona. I repeat, if what one admires about a public sports persona would be affected by a disappointing revelation regarding the person's character I suggest the original admiration is misplaced.

All I ever admired regarding Armstrong was not the person but the story of hope and perseverance about winning the Tour after beating cancer, so I can never be disappointed by anything he the person does.

Suit yourselves but that distinction makes a lot of sense to me.

Well said--we really don't know any of these people.
 
Azdak6 said:
Well said--we really don't know any of these people.

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Ninety5rpm said:
You might think about why you would ever be a fan of any public sports persona. I repeat, if what one admires about a public sports persona would be affected by a disappointing revelation regarding the person's character I suggest the original admiration is misplaced.

All I ever admired regarding Armstrong was not the person but the story of hope and perseverance about winning the Tour after beating cancer, so I can never be disappointed by anything he the person does.

Suit yourselves but that distinction makes a lot of sense to me.

So even learning he was doping to achieve those victories wouldn't change things for you? That the mythology surrounding his story of hope and perserverence was in part contrived? The man that is Lance Armstrong cannot he separated from that mythology.
 

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Publicus said:
So even learning he was doping to achieve those victories wouldn't change things for you? That the mythology surrounding his story of hope and perserverence was in part contrived? The man that is Lance Armstrong cannot he separated from that mythology.

You're a huge Contador fan. If you discovered Contador had doped for any of his tour victories, would you change your view of him?
 
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