The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Race Radio]

Angry?? I am totally chilled, why would I be angry? Irritated maybe about being called clueless by someone who constantly has the same refrain, but never angry

Why would I be banned? I am one of the few on here that posts on topic. My response to brodeal was purely to an insulting comment from him. Maybe you should refer your banning inference to him.

Aren't you CarbonCrank?

 

[SpartacusRox]

Aren't you CarbonCrank?

Lol, No I have never heard of him and thats the truth. I do have one on my bike though

 

[Race Radio]

Lol, No I have never heard of him and thats the truth. I do have one on my bike though

He was a guy who was here for a while and had a big Armstrong Man Crush. He flipped one day and threatened to kill a few posters, PM'ed a couple others with his address and told them he wanted to fight them. He has shown back up a couple times with different names....it always ends bad

 

[theswordsman]

I have posted in another thread that I think we will see Shack and Saxo in particular do their best to work over Astana prior to the mountains in a double teaming scenario. They need to crack the team to be able to crack AC. I still think that will be the case otherwise they may as well just post the MJ to AC now and all go to the beach. I think today's Giro stage showed up just how weak Astana really are despite the team spin about "tummy bugs"

I'm always amazed that people here don't give cyclists credit for being vulnerable to human ailments. Today was the eighth stage in a row, the weather has been rough, they're doing long transfers, shoving down gels or whatever on the road, meeting fans and the press, and you don't think it's possible that some illness could get passed around just like in an office or on the subway?

As for Astana being weak, the only common factor between the Giro and Tour teams is Vino if he rides. Contador gets a selection from Pereiro, de la Fuente, Noval, Navarro, Zeits, Fofonov, Maxim Iglinsky, Hernandez, Allan Davis, and a few others who also weren't at the Giro. The team will be lead by Martinelli. La Page did the Giro.

I don't know how Radio Shack and Saxo Bank could team up against Contador. First of all, it's not him against the world. If someone goes up the road that he has to chase, say Andy Schleck, every Radio Shack contender would have to go along or risk losing time, and Wiggins would, and Frank would, and Liquigas leaders and anyone else who hopes to compete, and they'd bring along any helpers who are able. Andy wouldn't want to end up with the same time in the mountains as guys who can beat him in the Time Trial, so he needs to beat Radio Shack. And it's not like other teams won't initiate attacks on Radio Shack and Saxo Bank.

The way to make Astana work is to put Contador in the yellow jersey and keep him there, but on sprint days for example, if there's not a GC threat in the break, it will be up to teams with sprinters to bring them back.

There are 22 teams this year, Schleck hasn't hit form, and Armstrong hasn't done anything. They've got their Dream Team minus Kloden at ATOC, and they're in third right now. Why aren't they practicing world domination on Bonny Doon if they think they'll be able to do it on the Tourmalet twice? This is their second biggest race of the year, and one they've worked towards all season?

 

[Ferminal]

Aren't you CarbonCrank?

Nope, this one is Bagster.

 

[BikeCentric]

I'm always amazed that people here don't give cyclists credit for being vulnerable to human ailments. Today was the eighth stage in a row, the weather has been rough, they're doing long transfers, shoving down gels or whatever on the road, meeting fans and the press, and you don't think it's possible that some illness could get passed around just like in an office or on the subway?

As for Astana being weak, the only common factor between the Giro and Tour teams is Vino if he rides. Contador gets a selection from Pereiro, de la Fuente, Noval, Navarro, Zeits, Fofonov, Maxim Iglinsky, Hernandez, Allan Davis, and a few others who also weren't at the Giro. The team will be lead by Martinelli. La Page did the Giro.

I don't know how Radio Shack and Saxo Bank could team up against Contador. First of all, it's not him against the world. If someone goes up the road that he has to chase, say Andy Schleck, every Radio Shack contender would have to go along or risk losing time, and Wiggins would, and Frank would, and Liquigas leaders and anyone else who hopes to compete, and they'd bring along any helpers who are able. Andy wouldn't want to end up with the same time in the mountains as guys who can beat him in the Time Trial, so he needs to beat Radio Shack. And it's not like other teams won't initiate attacks on Radio Shack and Saxo Bank.

The way to make Astana work is to put Contador in the yellow jersey and keep him there, but on sprint days for example, if there's not a GC threat in the break, it will be up to teams with sprinters to bring them back.

There are 22 teams this year, Schleck hasn't hit form, and Armstrong hasn't done anything. They've got their Dream Team minus Kloden at ATOC, and they're in third right now. Why aren't they practicing world domination on Bonny Doon if they think they'll be able to do it on the Tourmalet twice? This is their second biggest race of the year, and one they've worked towards all season?

Very nice, that is some top-notch cycling strategy analysis - reads like a Cyclingnews article; well done.

 

[theswordsman]

All the cool kids are in the Clinic tonight.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...5410855321120.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=5203604&type=story

 

[Rip:30]

all the cool kids are in the clinic tonight.

http://online.wsj.com/article/sb100...5410855321120.html?mod=wsj_hps_lefttopstories

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=5203604&type=story

burn baby burn!!!

 

[thehog]

All the cool kids are in the Clinic tonight.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...5410855321120.html?mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTTopStories

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=5203604&type=story

Case closed.

This thread can shut down!

 

[buckwheat]

I'm always amazed that people here don't give cyclists credit for being vulnerable to human ailments. Today was the eighth stage in a row, the weather has been rough, they're doing long transfers, shoving down gels or whatever on the road, meeting fans and the press, and you don't think it's possible that some illness could get passed around just like in an office or on the subway?

Or whatever......


Whatever is right!


If only......Man, I gots to get me some a dem gels....

 

[Oldman]

Or whatever......


Whatever is right!


If only......Man, I gots to get me some a dem gels....

The gel they're going to need will not get shoved down. Prepare for reamming speed-full power ahead!

 

[Boeing]

The gel they're going to need will not get shoved down. Prepare for reamming speed-full power ahead!

are you suggesting the use of K-Y Jelly?

 

[Berzin]

Armstrong supposedly abandoned the ToC today. Cute way to slide on out the back to avoid the avalanche of questions, but I digress.

A question for The Hog-(no, not Bruyneel, our Hog).

If I'm correct Hog, you were the one who predicted that Armstrong will not ride the Tour de France this year. Do you think this scenario will still play itself out given this new set of unforeseen circumstances?

 

[thehog]

Armstrong supposedly abandoned the ToC today. Cute way to slide on out the back to avoid the avalanche of questions, but I digress.

A question for The Hog-(no, not Bruyneel, our Hog).

If I'm correct Hog, you were the one who predicted that Armstrong will not ride the Tour de France this year. Do you think this scenario will still play itself out given this new set of unforeseen circumstances?

I can’t take credit for it no. Others send he wouldn’t ride before me. Wordsman should be footnoted.

Once I started seeing his form around MSR and Murcia time and heard some rumours about Radioshack sponsorship ending I knew the end was nigh. I recently heard that there was some meeting at Gila with Landis where Lance’s form was really really poor I knew something was definitely up. I didn’t believe much would come of it but saw the reports this morning that Armstrong had been threatening Landis. That’s when I knew he’s not going to ride. You see Floyd knows. He couldn’t do what he’s doing now 2 years ago. But now the tide has turned somewhat. Contador standing up to Lance has given others hope. In addition to this every one has grown tide of “I’m doing it for them” type talk. In an age of mass cynicism and total lack of trust in our leaders we don’t believe it anymore. Armstrong is different from most riders. Yes they all doped but no other rider profited from the sport more so than him. Marketing himself as the saviour from dirty cycling and as a symbol of clean living and to use cycling to avoid a disease like cancer is sick.

Looking back and connecting the dots we can see that Armstrong’s Gila form is about where he is as a cyclist in terms of talent. He’s not much more than a top ranked national athlete. That’s it. By doping himself and his team to horrendous levels formed him into the athlete he is today. In reality he’s not much but doping made him strong. I think today’s crash shows it has hit him mentally. He’s pretty much a nobody.

Can we blame Floyd? Knowing everything he knew and watching Lance and the comeback would really kill you. I’ve always called Floyd a weak man. He still is in a lot of ways but he’s gone a long way to earning some redemption. Believe me this is really a good thing for cycling. People might think its bad. But cycling has gotten better. It really has. But the entire Armstrong charade was spoiling an otherwise interesting races like the Giro. Its time to move on. I’m happy to forget the last 10 years and now concentrate on Alberto, Andy and the rest.

So will Lance ride the Tour? No chance. I guarantee that Radioshack will not be invited. From what I know this will occur. They will not let their race be disturbed by more and more allegations. Believe Landis has a lot more to drip feed out. The Tour doesn’t need that.

 

[RedheadDane]

Armstrong supposedly abandoned the ToC today. Cute way to slide on out the back to avoid the avalanche of questions, but I digress.

Well, according to the live-reporters, he did have a crash and needed medical attention... so...

 

[theswordsman]

Armstrong supposedly abandoned the ToC today. Cute way to slide on out the back to avoid the avalanche of questions, but I digress.

A question for The Hog-(no, not Bruyneel, our Hog).

If I'm correct Hog, you were the one who predicted that Armstrong will not ride the Tour de France this year. Do you think this scenario will still play itself out given this new set of unforeseen circumstances?

I predicted that in I think February in the comments at Bicycling.com. I also suggested it via twitter to Cycling News Editor, and he laughed at me. But Raven and I were the ones saying it here. It was obvious that he needed to make it seem like he was a contender as long as possible for the sake of publicity and his own income. And when he announced he wouldn't ride, he'd need an excuse that would still allow fans to say that he WOULD HAVE won if such and such wouldn't have happened. One scenario was obviously a light fall that he could say ruined his training.

They tested the family theory with the press release about the Pinewood Derby the morning of Circuit de Sarthe, but that didn't fly so they jumped on the news that teammates from Flanders were sick. That was right after the random doping test. His girlfriend isn't due until October, so that was out. Since he'd been to Africa, I thought malaria might be clever. But the Landis e-mails forced them to come up with something in a hurry.

 

[armstrong4ever]

I can’t take credit for it no. Others send he wouldn’t ride before me. Wordsman should be footnoted.

Once I started seeing his form around MSR and Murcia time and heard some rumours about Radioshack sponsorship ending I knew the end was nigh. I recently heard that there was some meeting at Gila with Landis where Lance’s form was really really poor I knew something was definitely up. I didn’t believe much would come of it but saw the reports this morning that Armstrong had been threatening Landis. That’s when I knew he’s not going to ride. You see Floyd knows. He couldn’t do what he’s doing now 2 years ago. But now the tide has turned somewhat. Contador standing up to Lance has given others hope. In addition to this every one has grown tide of “I’m doing it for them” type talk. In an age of mass cynicism and total lack of trust in our leaders we don’t believe it anymore. Armstrong is different from most riders. Yes they all doped but no other rider profited from the sport more so than him. Marketing himself as the saviour from dirty cycling and as a symbol of clean living and to use cycling to avoid a disease like cancer is sick.

Looking back and connecting the dots we can see that Armstrong’s Gila form is about where he is as a cyclist in terms of talent. He’s not much more than a top ranked national athlete. That’s it. By doping himself and his team to horrendous levels formed him into the athlete he is today. In reality he’s not much but doping made him strong. I think today’s crash shows it has hit him mentally. He’s pretty much a nobody.

Can we blame Floyd? Knowing everything he knew and watching Lance and the comeback would really kill you. I’ve always called Floyd a weak man. He still is in a lot of ways but he’s gone a long way to earning some redemption. Believe me this is really a good thing for cycling. People might think its bad. But cycling has gotten better. It really has. But the entire Armstrong charade was spoiling an otherwise interesting races like the Giro. Its time to move on. I’m happy to forget the last 10 years and now concentrate on Alberto, Andy and the rest.

So will Lance ride the Tour? No chance. I guarantee that Radioshack will not be invited. From what I know this will occur. They will not let their race be disturbed by more and more allegations. Believe Landis has a lot more to drip feed out. The Tour doesn’t need that.

theHog, I hope in the future you will get another hobby. Wasting your whole life on a forum writing about how much you admire Lance Armstrong is a bit too much.

 

[Sydney Sider]

I think Armstrong and Bruyneel should be forced to have a enema to get all the **** out before they to start to dribble it

 

[ErmOkk]

Some of you make it look as if he asked for a peloton crash to occure where he'd be out with some injury, c'mon... If it's serious it's gg wp no rematch for him, since he'll drop out for good.

 

[RedheadDane]

The only one who mentioned the crash in today's stage of ToC was me. And if it has sounded as if I was suggesting anything of that sort then I apologize. What I simply tried to do was giving another reason than those Landis-linked speculations for Armstrong pulling out.

 

[thehog]

theHog, I hope in the future you will get another hobby. Wasting your whole life on a forum writing about how much you admire Lance Armstrong is a bit too much.

I'm with you man. Get him to quit so I can stop writing about him.

 

[Angliru]

Well, according to the live-reporters, he did have a crash and needed medical attention... so...

That is one helluva coincidence but let's just chalk it up to his being distracted by the drama.

 

[Sydney Sider]

He should retire , his last race sponsored by Amgen , hows that for irony

 

[TheDangerMan]

Thehog said he would not ride the tour de france BECAUSE HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Injury or scandal was not part of that.

But they do want him to be injured because that's the sort of people they are. The last thing they want is for Armstrong to be allowed to ride and settle his disputes on the road.

I wonder if they have got what they wanted? How bad is he hurt?

 

[thehog]

Thehog said he would not ride the tour de france BECAUSE HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Injury or scandal was not part of that.

But they do want him to be injured because that's the sort of people they are. The last thing they want is for Armstrong to be allowed to ride and settle his disputes on the road.

I wonder if they have got what they wanted? How bad is he hurt?

6 posts in and speaking in the past tense. Are you sure you haven't been here before?