The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Berzin]

I can't figure out whether Bruyneel believes his own BS or if he's just constantly in spin mode.

Since we've only heard Bruyneel's side of the story, many people think his version is the "definitive" take on the issues he had at Astana.

He began working for Radio Shack before the Tour even ended, taking many Astana riders with him. And he has the audacity to ask for the remainder of his pay packet for what was left of the year.

When I heard about Vino's press conference at the Tour last year announcing his comeback and how Bruyneel had to go if he didn't like it, I was ecstatic.

Finally someone with the balls and organization behind him to tell Armstrong and Bruyneel where to go.

 

[therhodeo]

I wonder how Lance would match up to Vino right now.

 

[Laszlo]

They've got so much spin out there that regardless of any outcome, he can point to them having discussed it beforehand. Just yesterday he was saying he isn't where he needs to be and his TT'ing ability needs to come way up.

A career in politics would be the next logical step. That's where all the really cool narcissists hang out (well, there and Hollywood.)

Lance is very eloquent when he is on the talking point, whatever it may be- but just watch him as a guest in a talk show when he has to ad lib something thrown at him; he is like a deer in the headlights- it's not that he doesn't get it he just can't think of something funny to say back so he mutters "yeah.." in reply with a lost little smirk on his face. He can read or memorize prepared speeches- he cannot express himself as eloquently on fly though.

 

[Oldman]

I wonder how Lance would match up to Vino right now.

They're on different Continents, literally and figuritively. The T of Cal competition is thin and RS has their deck stacked.

 

[craig1985]

A lean looking Lance, or so the caption tells me on the photo page for stage 3 at the TOC.

 

[altark123]

A lean looking Lance, or so the caption tells me on the photo page for stage 3 at the TOC.

Nah, it can't be, good ole Hog said he is "truly massive" during yesterday's stage, so that trim guy must be someone else.

 

[ErmOkk]

He does look lean to me too, but I'll probably change minds again when I see him sit on his TT bike.

 

[thehog]

Nah, it can't be, good ole Hog said he is "truly massive" during yesterday's stage, so that trim guy must be someone else.

True be told. Watching yesterday I didn't say he was fat but he looks really big on the front end shots. Certainly when compared to the other riders. He's very big. I couldn't really see the gut but he's a big big athlete at the moment.

 

[Race Radio]

Armstrong is not fat. He is also training super hard. The problem is his body is not responding and he is freaking out. Much harder to find that form these days when you get tested 40 times and year and no longer get advanced notice of surprise tests. Puts a crimp in you entire "Preparation"

 

[El Oso]

A lean looking Lance, or so the caption tells me on the photo page for stage 3 at the TOC.

I was in a good position at the start and finish of Stage 1 and he looked lean, but he looked OLD, like Brett Farve old. He looks at least 3 years older than Jens! (Jens! is a day older than Lance)

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Lance rides for a Beastie Boy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mod5NTcitmU

You know...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk

 

[flicker]

Adam Yauch huh. One of those nice 3 Jewish boys from Brooklyn. Lance, dude you are alright!

 

[TRDean]

Adam Yauch huh. One of those nice 3 Jewish boys from Brooklyn. Lance, dude you are alright!

Little known fact...Adam Yauch was the original drummer for the Cro-Mags...now that is a band!

 

[Berzin]

Is there anyone here who didn't expect the Retirement Shack to dominate this race? For the European teams it's a good training race between the classics and the Tour. For the American teams it's a major goal. the Shack is somewhere in between--a semi-European team (without any major European results, by the way) that takes this race very seriously. If Saxobank comes away from this race without any wins, it won't matter at all. Fabian C or Andy S. could give a flying $#@! about winning here. If Levi or Lance doesn't take the overall, it'll be a disaster for them.

This is why the ToC will always remain a B-level race, aside from it's garbage of a course route.

Don't be surprised if this race shuts down in the next couple of years.

 

[Oldman]

This is why the ToC will always remain a B-level race, aside from it's garbage of a course route.



Don't be surprised if this race shuts down in the next couple of years.

What is really obvious is that all the other teams, save for a few domestic guys that want to get TV air time; expect RS to set tempo. It has the feel of a club race with a pre-determined, scripted outcome. It would be really, really fun if Zabriske screwed up that outcome. VS and everyone else is making a mistake.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

But seriously guys, what's happened at the Giro has vindicated RS decision to ride ToC.

They won't be looking at the pile ups, terrible conditions and resulting random placings and thinking they should have ridden that race. The ToC is a much better build up race for what they are interested in - the tour.

 

[Oldman]

But seriously guys, what's happened at the Giro has vindicated RS decision to ride ToC. They won't be looking at the pile ups, terrible conditions and resulting random placings and thinking they should have ridden that race. The ToC is a much better build up race for what they are interested in - the tour.

Horner could have had a good Giro; better than carrying around LA and LL. Seriously they needed a lighter load for most of the team and T of Cal provided the controlled camp environment they'd want...plus the media exposure they are all about. Their Tour reality isn't being tested, however. The serious Euro contenders have spent too much time applying the chamois butter to have any interest in racing.

 

[offbyone]

But seriously guys, what's happened at the Giro has vindicated RS decision to ride ToC.

They won't be looking at the pile ups, terrible conditions and resulting random placings and thinking they should have ridden that race. The ToC is a much better build up race for what they are interested in - the tour.

Interesting point. I don't necessarily think what happened at the Giro really has anything to do with RS in the ToC. I mean I guess by comparison the weather at the ToC is perfect. The ToC has great potential, but you simply can't compare it to a grand tour.
If anything, what happened at the Giro indicted the Giro. It shows how the teams, the riders and the race in general are similar to the ToC in terms of the mix of talent of the riders. There is no team there that truly has an A squad. Obviously, the directors and support crew have to also be questioned. What happened at the Giro today would never happen at the TdF. But it sure makes for some excitement.

 

[Mellow Velo]

So what about the two crashes in Sacramento and the massed crashes in the wet of stage 2?

It's not an interesting point,when facts are ignored.
It's another exercise in troll futility.

2 posts in today's California stage thread, soon to be 1000 posts in the Giro's.
That's what's really becoming a burr up the Volcano's ass.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

So what about the two crashes in Sacramento and the massed crashes in the wet of stage 2?

It's not an interesting point,when facts are ignored.
It's another exercise in troll futility.

2 posts in today's California stage thread, soon to be 1000 posts in the Giro's.
That's what's really becoming a burr up the Volcano's ass.

There are always crashes in a cycling race, of course, but the Giro has been like skittles this year. The top pros aren't going to stand for it.

 

[Race Radio]

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They won't be looking at the pile ups, terrible conditions and resulting random placings

Are you referring to Stage 2 of the ToC? Weather so bad they could not fly the plane, bunch of weekend warriors crashing the Pro Tour Guys on the descents? Schelck and Cancellara DFLWWB?

 

[Race Radio]

It's not an interesting point,when facts are ignored.
It's another exercise in troll futility.

Facts mean nothing to a Troll, the more confusion and disruption the better to keep their minds off their sorry life and endless medication.

 

[Oldman]

Are you referring to Stage 2 of the ToC? Weather so bad they could not fly the plane, bunch of weekend warriors crashing the Pro Tour Guys on the descents? Schelck and Cancellara DFLWWB?

Any ProTour level rider descending Trinity around someone they don't know has already asked for trouble. That's why you exert yourself enough to get into a reasonable position. I was on those climbs and most of the big guys were content to drift into mid field. That could happen at the Giro, T of Ca or anywhere.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

These threads are starting to get overly clogged by people who take the bait and then there is a 20 post back and forth before any resumption of a discussion between civilized people. And it always seem to be the same 4 or 5 guys who like nothing better than to take the bait.

It takes 2 to tango. I think some of you really like engaging fanboys/trolls/newbs/igonrami.

Just try ignoring these people and the forum would be better off.

 

[Eyjafjallajokull]

Facts mean nothing to a Troll, the more confusion and disruption the better to keep their minds off their sorry life and endless medication.

That's not very nice.

As I've pointed out, there were far more crashes in the first few stages of this years tour than the ToC, and the organisers have a history of choosing dangerous courses. Are you saying this is not true?