The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[junkie]

@ thehog

Obviously Floyd got no evidences of that sort. Some info on part of UCI corrupt practices might be more interesting. How do you think, is it possible that FL works with feds?

 

[SpartacusRox]

@ thehog

Obviously Floyd got no evidences of that sort. Some info on part of UCI corrupt practices might be more interesting. How do you think, is it possible that FL works with feds?

He may be working with the Feds when he is being interviewed regarding his defrauding thousands of people out of their money for his bulls!t book. Wonder how Arnie Baker feels right now, probably knew FL was all lies all along.

 

[progressor]

What? I think you mean psychologically.

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Why did you edit that susan? That was monumentally tame by this forums standards.

Edit - not worth the banning - the slope of the land here is not flat

 

[VeloLIVE]

Do you have a link to that interview?

Susan

Hi, all!
This is the English translation of interview with Yaroslav Popovich.

 

[bobs nob]

Armstrong supposedly abandoned the ToC today. Cute way to slide on out the back to avoid the avalanche of questions, but I digress.

A question for The Hog-(no, not Bruyneel, our Hog).

If I'm correct Hog, you were the one who predicted that Armstrong will not ride the Tour de France this year. Do you think this scenario will still play itself out given this new set of unforeseen circumstances?

The predictor of that was not the hog, it goes back pretty far though, like December/January. Maybe sooner.

EDIT: Can't find any reference in this thread of a tdf no show prior to 2/13 but this thread doesn't go back to last year. It could be discussed elsewhere.

 

[bobs nob]

I just see the positive side. Landis unloads all his crappy resentment on the easiest target and people are going to cool it on their cheating.
Since Lance is taking the heat and he is the BOSS of cycling it will make him and all the pros quit or be more careful in their PED use. Also anyone who lies in this case will be eventually caught. Amazing really.

Really a win win situation for all involved. Floyd unfortunately still be a scumbag and hated by most of the cycling community. Even his former friend Greg LeMond.

He (Floyd) is going to be the Jose Canseco of cycling (those unfamiliar with Baseball please see wikipedia). He is still held in disgust by both players and media alike. And it's uncanny how FEW of his allegations have been wrong.

 

[Beech Mtn]

This article about Floyd mentions that

Also due to his injuries Armstrong will not be racing the Dauphiné Libéré and his participation in Tour de Suisse has a huge question mark following it.

Remember that old saying LA had about "whatever race we decide to do in June"? I always wondered why he was so vague about his racing schedule, including at the press conference at start of ToC. I guess now we can guess why, since it seems people were expecting the Floyd allegations to come out.

 

[Publicus]

This article about Floyd mentions that


Remember that old saying LA had about "whatever race we decide to do in June"? I always wondered why he was so vague about his racing schedule, including at the press conference at start of ToC. I guess now we can guess why, since it seems people were expecting the Floyd allegations to come out.

He was never going to the Dauphine. No way he was going to race AC up Alpe d'Huez. No way. Tour de Suisse is the only race left for him to do (I think). Don't know how that's supposed to work for his preparation, but that's the story they are going with. He is purportedly going to France on Monday to start reconnaissance of the mountain stages.

 

[Beech Mtn]

I would bet AFLD will be waiting at the airport ready for an OOC test.

 

[Berzin]

I wonder if even a character like Armstrong could withstand the firestorm brewing over these latest accusations and go on riding his bike as if nothing were amiss.

Even if Landis' claims were not true, how could he focus on the task at hand knowing the type of negative attention that will be dogging him all throughout the Tour?

 

[broken chain]

I wonder if even a character like Armstrong could withstand the firestorm brewing over these latest accusations and go on riding his bike as if nothing were amiss.

Even if Landis' claims were not true, how could he focus on the task at hand knowing the type of negative attention that will be dogging him all throughout the Tour?

Why should it bother him,he rides clean?!

 

[Berzin]

Supposedly he won't ride either the Tour de Suisse nor the Dauphine Libere.

He plans to reconnoiter certain Tour stages and just wait until July.

 

[Ferminal]

Supposedly he won't ride either the Tour de Suisse nor the Dauphine Libere.

He plans to reconnoiter certain Tour stages and just wait until July.

So that means he's going to be laying low in Girona.

 

[bobs nob]

Serious answers please

So that means he's going to be laying low in Girona.

So...like...how do riders and teams typically transport these blood bags around with them in prep for a 3 week stage race? (Yes, I would appreciate a serious answer.)

Is all of this scrutiny going to require extraordianry measures/cramp LA's style?

How about everyone else? Will this change the way they 'do business'?

 

[ErmOkk]

Why are some so glad Landis came up with the thing? If he was in US postal for a longer time together with el pistolero, how would everyone go berserk when he was mentioned, because why would he be left out of bruyneels good juice?

Everyone knows LA is a doper, but honnestly, who isn't... I think 99% of landis story is just to make things bigger to get people down with him...

He'll ride TdS btw, for the reason Publicious mentioned above obviously.

 

[kent77]

VERY intersting read

Lance Armstrong must go down in flames along with the rest of all the cons in pro cycling... which is a large part of the peleton.... So sad.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden

 

[Publicus]

Why are some so glad Landis came up with the thing? If he was in US postal for a longer time together with el pistolero, how would everyone go berserk when he was mentioned, because why would he be left out of bruyneels good juice?

Everyone knows LA is a doper, but honnestly, who isn't... I think 99% of landis story is just to make things bigger to get people down with him...

He'll ride TdS btw, for the reason Publicious mentioned above obviously.

It's not really about Armstrong. It's about striking a blow at the culture that allows and encourages doping all the while publicly maintaining an anti-doping posture. As for AC, if Bruyneel's involvement is confirmed, then the burden of proof will be on him to establish that he's not similarly tainted. That goes for anyone that has been involved with a Bruyneel managed team.

EDIT: I should note, this topic is better addressed in the Clinic (including kent77's post)

 

[red_flanders]

Hi, all!
This is the English translation of interview with Yaroslav Popovich.

I love this:

Y.P.: Of course not! There are few reasons why we are not riding Giro. First of all gossips about us not riding Giro started last year. Then after the Tour were talks that Bruyneel doesn’t want to participate in it. Giro is very hard race, not only for riders, but for all staff – masseurs, mechanics. It’s extremely difficult to participate in 3 Grand Tours not only physically but morally as well. It’s extremely-extremely difficult with continuous transfers from hotel to hotel; three days of the race, then rest day and then thirteen day of hard work on high speed, on a border of endurance – too hard. Second of all and dominant reason is a quarrel about finance between Lance and Zomenian, it seems. Well, can’t tell for sure. Therefore, Bruy put it into black list for 2010. The best race from a point of comfort is Vuelta. Where you arrived very first day, where checked in, there you will be before the end of the race. So comfortable.

Seems his teammates (current and former) are starting to lose their grip on the PR talking points.

 

[Christian]

According through Eurosport Germany, Lance is confirmed for Tour de Luxembourg, which would be cool cause then he'd come through my village

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a fanboy - but still it's not every day a world star comes through your village!

 

[altark123]

According through Eurosport Germany, Lance is confirmed for Tour de Luxembourg, which would be cool cause then he'd come through my village

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a fanboy - but still it's not every day a world star comes through your village!

That is interesting, what is the dates of that race? And, can anyone confirm LA heading to France this week?

 

[Martin318is]

According through Eurosport Germany, Lance is confirmed for Tour de Luxembourg, which would be cool cause then he'd come through my village

Don't get me wrong - I'm not a fanboy - but still it's not every day a world star comes through your village!

Given the size of Luxembourg, aren't the Schlecks pretty much going past your house daily?

 

[Publicus]

That is interesting, what is the dates of that race? And, can anyone confirm LA heading to France this week?

June 2-June 6. Don't see how he skips the Tour de Suisse.

 

[Christian]

That is interesting, what is the dates of that race? And, can anyone confirm LA heading to France this week?

The SkodaTour de Luxembourg goes from 2nd of June to 6th of June. Here is the official start list (without Lance) but it's not up to date, Jens Keukeleire is for example still on there.

It is especially interesting since Lance actually won the Tour de Luxembourg back in 1998 (I think this is a little known fact). Now I'm not an expert on his biography, so I haven't verified this, but on Eurosport they said it was his first "bigger" win after his recovery from cancer.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...ownload/380730803/partants+2010+skoda-tdl.pdf

Here is the official website (in French):

http://www.aotdl.com/

Given the size of Luxembourg, aren't the Schlecks pretty much going past your house daily?

That is an interesting question! They live actually not too far from me, but I've never seen them while training. I saw Kim Kirchen twice, once I passed him by car, once we crossed each other by bike.

As for the Schlecks, I've seen them driving around (they got cars for free from one of their sponsors, but therefore it says "ANDY SCHLECK" in big letters on it, so they're easily recognizable), and I saw Andy in a movie theatre in January. People are pretty cool about it though, my American girlfriend was pretty surprised by how little people seemed to take notice. She said that if a celebrity walked in a movie theatre in the US, people would go crazy - but I think this is due to the relative smallness of the cycling world compared to international actors for example, and of Luxembourg especially compared to the US

Don't see how he skips the Tour de Suisse.

What do you mean? He doesn't have to - F.Schleck and Kirchen for example do both

 

[Sydney Sider]

This is all i got for Lance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSvo3taZT7E&feature=related

 

[Publicus]

The SkodaTour de Luxembourg goes from 2nd of June to 6th of June. Here is the official start list (without Lance) but it's not up to date, Jens Keukeleire is for example still on there.

It is especially interesting since Lance actually won the Tour de Luxembourg back in 1998 (I think this is a little known fact). Now I'm not an expert on his biography, so I haven't verified this, but on Eurosport they said it was his first "bigger" win after his recovery from cancer.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...ownload/380730803/partants+2010+skoda-tdl.pdf

Here is the official website (in French):

http://www.aotdl.com/



That is an interesting question! They live actually not too far from me, but I've never seen them while training. I saw Kim Kirchen twice, once I passed him by car, once we crossed each other by bike.

As for the Schlecks, I've seen them driving around (they got cars for free from one of their sponsors, but therefore it says "ANDY SCHLECK" in big letters on it, so they're easily recognizable), and I saw Andy in a movie theatre in January. People are pretty cool about it though, my American girlfriend was pretty surprised by how little people seemed to take notice. She said that if a celebrity walked in a movie theatre in the US, people would go crazy - but I think this is due to the relative smallness of the cycling world compared to international actors for example, and of Luxembourg especially compared to the US

What do you mean? He doesn't have to - F.Schleck and Kirchen for example do both

He needs race kilometers. He lost the Kilometers he would have raced at ToC, so I assume that the Tour of Luxemberg is intended to plug that gap. He was originally choosing between Dauphine and Tour de Suisse, where the latter has more kilometers and (most important) no AC.