The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Angliru]

Vacansoleil top of the teams competition in Murcia

Wonder what LA/Radioshack think o that?

They'll say "Oh the team category is so last week. We're here for training miles."

 

[Polish]

Thats what Dreams are made of

Today, I met one of my dreams, I dropped Lance and Klöden in the mountains, "says Lars Petter Nordhaug to Syklingens World.

-We drove up to an 18 km long mountain named after Marco Pantani with three mil again. Wiggins felt "king" and saw that Lance was struggling a bit. Then he commanded Chris Froome and me in front. We went really hard up against the top and Lance and Klöden had to knock out behind us. I admit that it was a bit cool.

Today may very well end up being Lar's most cherished day as a Pro
He will someday(s) tell his grandchildren the story of this day....repeatedly!

Of course Lance finished the day alongside Lars and will most likely beat him in the TT - but grandpa Lars will be forgiven for his forgetfulness there.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

They'll say "Oh the team category is so last week. We're here for training miles."

Unless of course they find themselves in position to take it...then it was strategy

 

[Publicus]

Today may very well end up being Lar's most cherished day as a Pro
He will someday(s) tell his grandchildren the story of this day....repeatedly!

Of course Lance finished the day alongside Lars and will most likely beat him in the TT - but grandpa Lars will be forgiven for his forgetfulness there.

Just adding an objective view point on Lance's text message regarding suffering on the cat 1. All the other stuff is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

 

[python]

let me contribute a rare post to this (imho) useless thread.

i have a different theory as to why texas did not feel good today.

who knows but perhaps afld's combative statement on non-cooperation with the uci on french soil could somehow lower the eternal champions spirits

 

[Polish]

Just adding an objective view point on Lance's text message regarding suffering on the cat 1. All the other stuff is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

I realize that....and the Lar's link was nice - thanks.

I wonder if Lance was on the rivet today, or if he held something back on the climb considering the TT tomorrow. He did manage to finish the day with Wiggins etc....

 

[altark123]

I realize that....and the Lar's link was nice - thanks.

I wonder if Lance was on the rivet today, or if he held something back on the climb considering the TT tomorrow. He did manage to finish the day with Wiggins etc....

Could be, I'm sure he was sturuggling a bit as it was his first real mountain of the year, but he did finish where he needed to, to stay in contention.

 

[Publicus]

I realize that....and the Lar's link was nice - thanks.

I wonder if Lance was on the rivet today, or if he held something back on the climb considering the TT tomorrow. He did manage to finish the day with Wiggins etc....

Well he did have an assist from gravity seeing as the course was downhill for 20+km after the ascent. But it's early still and he's still got more weight to lose and he hasn't really focused on climbing and . . . you get the idea. Nothing matters but July. And in July if things don't go well, we'll have a new set of explanations for why that is the case. SSDD.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Well he did have an assist from gravity seeing as the course was downhill for 20+km after the ascent. But it's early still and he's still got more weight to lose and he hasn't really focused on climbing and . . . you get the idea. Nothing matters but July. And in July if things don't go well, we'll have a new set of explanations for why that is the case. SSDD.

Agreed.

You know what I've often wondered...what if Lance wins? What will the sides be saying then? I honestly don't really care who wins; I just want to see some good racing come July (hasn't really been the case for the past few years), but how will Lance act if he wins, and how will AC explain that failure? What if baby Schleck beats em both, then what? In a strange way, the explanations are just as entertaining as the actual racing

 

[Anonymous]

Agreed.

You know what I've often wondered...what if Lance wins? What will the sides be saying then? I honestly don't really care who wins; I just want to see some good racing come July (hasn't really been the case for the past few years), but how will Lance act if he wins, and how will AC explain that failure? What if baby Schleck beats em both, then what? In a strange way, the explanations are just as entertaining as the actual racing

Lance won't win.

 

[Publicus]

Agreed.

You know what I've often wondered...what if Lance wins? What will the sides be saying then? I honestly don't really care who wins; I just want to see some good racing come July (hasn't really been the case for the past few years), but how will Lance act if he wins, and how will AC explain that failure? What if baby Schleck beats em both, then what? In a strange way, the explanations are just as entertaining as the actual racing

It will depend on HOW he wins. If it's because AC falters or he just dominates, there won't be much to be said other than he was the better man. Respect due. If he wins because AC or Andy crashes out, then there will be a bit of an asterisk as to what would have happened, etc. If he's going to win, I want it to be under the first scenario.

If Baby Scheck wins, it would depend on the same question: the circumstances.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Lance won't win.

Realistically, no, but hypothetically.

It will depend on HOW he wins. If it's because AC falters or he just dominates, there won't be much to be said other than he was the better man. Respect due. If he wins because AC or Andy crashes out, then there will be a bit of an asterisk as to what would have happened, etc. If he's going to win, I want it to be under the first scenario.

If Baby Scheck wins, it would depend on the same question: the circumstances.

Exactly right. I don't want to see anybody lose to a crash or mechanical problems, but if that were the case, I want to see the victor acknowledge that fact, not spin it as though he were the better man. Frankly, the way Lance has been acting toward AC it wouldn't suprise me.

 

[zapata]

Today may very well end up being Lar's most cherished day as a Pro
He will someday(s) tell his grandchildren the story of this day....repeatedly!

Of course Lance finished the day alongside Lars and will most likely beat him in the TT - but grandpa Lars will be forgiven for his forgetfulness there.

Nordhaug also won the stage in Ireland where Armstrong abandoned. But, to be fair, he had already been paid, so why should he be bothered to finish the race?

 

[Epoché]

It will depend on HOW he wins.

No, any win will do, thanks. Nobody will care if everyone else crashes out. It's like when Sastre won because Contador wasn't there. A win is a win is a win. That's all anyone will remember. At 38 he will take a win anyway he can.

Going back to this race. Maybe LA is focusing on the TT, or maybe he wants Wiggins to get a false sense of security generally.

The thing with LA is, if he is unsure of his form, he won't attack for fear of blowing up. It's much worse to be seen to try to beat someone and fail, than not try and leave the doubt there.

 

[Epoché]

Nordhaug also won the stage in Ireland where Armstrong abandoned. But, to be fair, he had already been paid, so why should he be bothered to finish the race?

There was a typhoon in progress.

 

[zapata]

There was a typhoon in progress.

It was raining, yes. Some people nevertheless managed to finish.

 

[python]

No, any win will do, thanks. Nobody will care if everyone else crashes out. It's like when Sastre won because Contador wasn't there. A win is a win is a win. That's all anyone will remember. At 38 he will take a win anyway he can.

Going back to this race. Maybe LA is focusing on the TT, or maybe he wants Wiggins to get a false sense of security generally.

The thing with LA is, if he is unsure of his form, he won't attack for fear of blowing up. It's much worse to be seen to try to beat someone and fail, than not try and leave the doubt there.

i dont agree with this analysis particularly because it's early march. it also does not agree with armstrongs own record in the giro last year. he attacked and was dumped repeatedly by the better riders. his fans explained - it was a training race. bs.

 

[Epoché]

It was raining, yes. Some people nevertheless managed to finish.

Heavy driving rain and hurricane winds. Cavendish also packed up.

 

[Publicus]

No, any win will do, thanks. Nobody will care if everyone else crashes out. It's like when Sastre won because Contador wasn't there. A win is a win is a win. That's all anyone will remember. At 38 he will take a win anyway he can.

Going back to this race. Maybe LA is focusing on the TT, or maybe he wants Wiggins to get a false sense of security generally.

The thing with LA is, if he is unsure of his form, he won't attack for fear of blowing up. It's much worse to be seen to try to beat someone and fail, than not try and leave the doubt there.

You are entitled to your opinion. I was speaking for myself.

 

[zapata]

I know cavendish abandoned, I saw it. It was heavy rain, but never a hurricane.

 

[Epoché]

i dont agree with this analysis particularly because it's early march. it also does not agree with armstrongs own record in the giro last year. he attacked and was dumped repeatedly by the better riders. his fans explained - it was a training race. bs.

I think he only attacked twice in the whole tour. The first time he was called back to help Levi, the second time was on that stage in the last week which Pellizotti won.

Though the circumstances were still different. He was clearly not a contender in the race and was his first GT for four years. But in this current race his other rivals won't be in peak form either, so he will not want to give them a huge psychological boost this early in the season by attacking and blowing up.

 

[python]

I think he only attacked twice in the whole tour. The first time he was called back to help Levi, the second time was on that stage in the last week which Pellizotti won.

Though the circumstances were still different. He was clearly not a contender in the race and was his first GT for four years. But in this current race his other rivals won't be in peak form either, so he will not want to give them a huge psychological boost this early in the season by attacking and blowing up.

no.

you are contradicting your own theories about not attacking to save the face if feeling unsure.

as you admitted, he attacked in the giro at least twice while whining all along that he was not in the best shape. he was dumped. why did he attack? why did he not not care about the embarrassment and encouraging his rivals ?

answer: he did not care about the embarrassment.

 

[pmcg76]

I think he only attacked twice in the whole tour. The first time he was called back to help Levi, the second time was on that stage in the last week which Pellizotti won.

Though the circumstances were still different. He was clearly not a contender in the race and was his first GT for four years. But in this current race his other rivals won't be in peak form either, so he will not want to give them a huge psychological boost this early in the season by attacking and blowing up.

Why is it whenever Lance does poorly, there is some alternative explanation for his poor performances.

And it was definitely not a typhoon in Ireland, I was there, it was heavy rain. He took his money and ran. Cavendish dropped put in 08 as well, at least he won a few stages and didnt cause the event to lose a few days.

 

[altark123]

Why is it whenever Lance does poorly, there is some alternative explanation for his poor performances.

And it was definitely not a typhoon in Ireland, I was there, it was heavy rain. He took his money and ran. Cavendish dropped put in 08 as well, at least he won a few stages and didn't cause the event to lose a few days.

Why is it that whenever Lance does ANYTHING there are 42 middle-aged people sitting on their computer and on this forum trying to make him seem like an idiot. Guess what, I am glad you release your blatant hatred for this man on this forum, but guess what? NO ONE who matters gives a rat's behind what you think of Lance, just like on one cares what I think. So keep rattling on about Pharmstrong and Geri-shack.....it really accomplishes something. Don't just label me a troll who is trying to hijack this board...I am a Lance fan but come here to read about all things cycling, I just had to get this off my chest. People act like teenagers on here sometimes.

 

[ravens]

Why is it that whenever Lance does ANYTHING there are 42 middle-aged people sitting on their computer and on this forum trying to make him seem like an idiot. Guess what, I am glad you release your blatant hatred for this man on this forum, but guess what? NO ONE who matters gives a rat's behind what you think of Lance, just like on one cares what I think. So keep rattling on about Pharmstrong and Geri-shack.....it really accomplishes something. Don't just label me a troll who is trying to hijack this board...I am a Lance fan but come here to read about all things cycling, I just had to get this off my chest. People act like teenagers on here sometimes.

I dunno about the rest of them, but I am bored and at work most of the time. I used to be a huge lance fan as were a lot of the other 41 people you speak of. I am really not in the mood since there are NUMEROUS posts of exactly what it was that turned a lot of us, and some of them are pretty articulate.

I don't really care if anyone or everyone agrees with me. It's all good. This is a fun outlet for me. I am a lot more angry about how hard it is to get live or nearly live video of racing. That's what really hacks me off. Like most males, I am strongly biased to the visual side of things. There is only so much posting about the various racers that I can read without actually seeing and it's pretty easy to see why pro cycling is such a backwater sport in America.

I have already ranted about that too, but it's bugging me now more than ever. Newegg is selling a device for $50 that will allow me to stream PC video files to my TV. I am desperate enough to consider blowing $50 on it and dealing with my wife just to be able to watch stale cycling races.

I don't care if you like Lance, and I don't care if you want to troll. I have already posted about that too. My posts are brilliant (except when they are stupid or just plain wrong) and you should avail yourself of my wisdom and articulate-ness. (Is that a werd?)

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