The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Publicus]

An LA A-Z and no mention of The Hog?? Surely is better than Heal the World??

Oh the Hog was mentioned, but it was quite clever:

Y= Yes men that you need to surround yourself with if you are aiming for world domination #lambstrong #brohanyoukneel

 

[Ripper]

There is no way Pharma weighs in the 150's. Anyone seen him, live and in person, in the past month or so?

 

[mightymac12]

Are you saying 150 is high or low?

 

[Anonymous]

Well lances lawyers have been onto a twitter buddy of mine..

He made a couple of s**** Lambstrong tshirts, (aimed at another mutual twitter freind Simon Lamb).. lances lawyers have been in touch wanting to know why he is trying to make money out of lance.

http://twitter.com/1davewilson

and the original tweet
http://twitpic.com/12fs07

I've also been watching this from early on, and waiting for LA's lawyers to become interested! I'm intrigued to see how it will end up. What Lamby should do is say that all proceeds of Lambstrong t-shirts will go to the Macmillan cancer fund (or something equivalent), to avoid accusations of profiteering and then we'll see whether LA is petty enough to stop money being raised for cancer charity....

... and that also may then lead to an ironic situation when we get to turn the tables and call LA a cancer lover! "Why do you want me to stop selling Lambstrong t-shirts? Do you love cancer?"

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Simons blog is great, he trawls up some great old italian cycling photos.

Im just fascinated, they must literally have little interns searching twitter and whathaveyou for strong related things.. someone seriously needs to get out more..

http://twitter.com/lambstrong
designs for #TeamLambshank kit welcomed. Must appear to have a thick skin but be quite transparent

Dim - can you tell your pal I have an idea for the Lambstrong collection.
Yellow "woolen" bracelets!!!! Genius I know......

Tell him I will forward my paypal a/c details so I can collect my cut from the profits, um I mean donations.
LambStrong brother.

 

[Publicus]

There is no way Pharma weighs in the 150's. Anyone seen him, live and in person, in the past month or so?

I haven't, but if you compare photos of him from the 2009 Tour and the 2010 TDU you'll see that he looks exactly the same (I think I may have posted them in this thread). At the Tour he listed his weight as 75 kg, now he's listed at 71 kg--what would be the lowest weight of his career. He doesn't look like he's lost almost 9 pounds since July.

 

[Angliru]

If he happens to beat AC, it won't be by a 'fair and square' competition on the road, ie, illness, injury, crash or mishap, or by 'other means' [dramatic music swells]. I wonder to what extent he seriously believes he could beat AC 'straight up'.

Armstrong was quoted after the Tour in one of the issues of either Cycle Sport or Pro Cycling that he would've taken advantage of some of Contador's weaker moments if they weren't on the same team. The only point I can think of when I saw a hint of Contador doing anything close to suffering when Armstrong was in the general vicinity was when he grimaced while on camera on Ventoux.

With Kloeden and Leipheimer, he has 2 riders that can't be allowed to get away on the climbs in a break/attack. The problem with this strategy is that all the other teams with "contenders" have to feel the same threat that Contador/Astana will when anyone that has the rep for being able to podium, & takes a flyer off the front.

Leipheimer has made it clear that he still holds out hope that somehow he will be able to sneak in under the radar and steal a Tour victory away. That is why he stays with Bruyneel and Armstrong because he feels they give him the best chance to finish high in the gc, considering how he's faltered when given sole leadership of a team in the past (Rabobank, Gerolsteiner) and to a lesser degree, Discovery 2008, plus the 2009 Giro with Astana.

Kloeden on the other hand is content as long as his team wins and he has fun doing it. He will not hesitate to sacrifice his own ambitions for his designated team leader. He is Armstrong's dream come true.

 

[Mellow Velo]

His dramatic weight loss is almost definitely, bogus information, put out early for the GP, to explain him flying in the mountains, come July.
Fanboy forum ammo, nothing more.

Armstrong was quoted after the Tour in one of the issues of either Cycle Sport or Pro Cycling that he would've taken advantage of some of Contador's weaker moments if they weren't on the same team. The only point I can think of when I saw a hint of Contador doing anything close to suffering when Armstrong was in the general vicinity was when he grimaced while on camera on Ventoux.

I am sure that Contador has greater justification, were he to make the same "observation".

 

[thehog]

I haven't, but if you compare photos of him from the 2009 Tour and the 2010 TDU you'll see that he looks exactly the same (I think I may have posted them in this thread). At the Tour he listed his weight as 75 kg, now he's listed at 71 kg--what would be the lowest weight of his career. He doesn't look like he's lost almost 9 pounds since July.

never tested positive. Ever. Lived and trained in France where penalties for possession of doping agents is stronger than anywhere else in the world. He dominated because of a combination of exceptional athletic ability, innovative climbing technique, practice, great coaching, and the best teams of the last decade.

 

[progressor]

I haven't, but if you compare photos of him from the 2009 Tour and the 2010 TDU you'll see that he looks exactly the same (I think I may have posted them in this thread). At the Tour he listed his weight as 75 kg, now he's listed at 71 kg--what would be the lowest weight of his career. He doesn't look like he's lost almost 9 pounds since July.

Not to say his weight claims aren't cr@p,but it'd be fairly difficult to tell someone had lost 4 kgs of muscle in person with clothing, let alone from photos.

 

[Publicus]

Not to say his weight claims aren't cr@p,but it'd be fairly difficult to tell someone had lost 4 kgs of muscle in person with clothing, let alone from photos.

Maybe so. I'll go by what my eyes tell me. And if you look at these photos below, he doesn't look demonstrably smaller up top in the current photo for Team Radio Shack where he is supposed to weigh 156.2 pounds (71 kg) and the top photos where he is supposed to weigh 165 pounds (75 kg). The lack of definition in his face now, compared to July says a lot.

 

[BroDeal]

never tested positive. Ever. Lived and trained in France where penalties for possession of doping agents is stronger than anywhere else in the world. He dominated because of a combination of exceptional athletic ability, innovative climbing technique, practice, great coaching, and the best teams of the last decade.

Moved out of France as soon as laws against doping were enacted. Tested positive for EPO six times. Rode with a team of dopers where every climbing lieutenant has been found to have doped.

 

[BroDeal]

Dude needs to lay off the spray-on tan. He looks like an Oompah Loompah.

 

[Carboncrank]

Moved out of France as soon as laws against doping were enacted. Tested positive for EPO six times. Rode with a team of dopers where every climbing lieutenant has been found to have doped.

None of which tests would ever hold up in court. Pretty much all the GC contenders around him in his era got busted.

Get over tests sponsored by a French newspaper that always had a hard on for him and put it to bed.

He's passing all the same tests everyone gets.

 

[Carboncrank]

Maybe so. I'll go by what my eyes tell me. And if you look at these photos below, he doesn't look demonstrably smaller up top in the current photo for Team Radio Shack where he is supposed to weigh 156.2 pounds (71 kg) and the top photos where he is supposed to weigh 165 pounds (75 kg). The lack of definition in his face now, compared to July says a lot.

I look at the same pics and see he looks noticeably thinner in the chest and shoulders.

But if thinking he hasn't lost weight make you feel safer, go right ahead.

 

[BroDeal]

Get over tests sponsored by a French newspaper that always had a hard on for him and put it to bed.

More lies by the dangerous nut. Going to start PMing me again with threats??

The newspaper just found the facts. It had nothing to do with the tests. Sorry if you cannot accept the truth, but it is not surprising. Crazy people often have trouble accepting reality.

 

[Ripper]

Not to say his weight claims aren't cr@p,but it'd be fairly difficult to tell someone had lost 4 kgs of muscle in person with clothing, let alone from photos.

How about when said person is in cycling clothing?

 

[Race Radio]

tests sponsored by a French newspaper

Really?

Do you have anything to back up this accusation or, like most of what you post here, did you pull it out of your A$$?

 

[VeloCity]

Pretty much all the GC contenders around him in his era got busted.

Yes, they did, didn't they? Pretty idiotic to believe that the guy who beat all of those dopers 7 years in a row, often by many minutes, was the only clean one of the bunch

 

[Publicus]

I look at the same pics and see he looks noticeably thinner in the chest and shoulders.

But if thinking he hasn't lost weight make you feel safer, go right ahead.

Feel safer? I'm not fearful of Armstrong. I'm just pointing out the dubious nature of his claims. And he has been careful to talk about his weight loss relative to last year at this time (January 2009 compare January 2010). I don't think it will make a wit of difference if that is true (I think it is). What matters is compared to the Tour de France (2009). If you think he's at the lowest weight of his professional career (156.2 pounds), perhaps it gives you hope that he can pull it off. As I said, I don't think it will make a wit of difference, but just so you are not mistaken, there is no fear here.

 

[Race Radio]

Feel safer? I'm not fearful of Armstrong. I'm just pointing out the dubious nature of his claims. And he has been careful to talk about his weight loss relative to last year at this time (January 2009 compare January 2010). I don't think it will make a wit of difference if that is true (I think it is). What matters is compared to the Tour de France (2009). If you think he's at the lowest weight of his professional career (156.2 pounds), perhaps it gives you hope that he can pull it off. As I said, I don't think it will make a wit of difference, but just so you are not mistaken, there is no fear here.

By "Feel Safer" he means he will kill you last, TFF is still 1st on his list.

 

[progressor]

Maybe so. I'll go by what my eyes tell me. And if you look at these photos below, he doesn't look demonstrably smaller up top in the current photo for Team Radio Shack where he is supposed to weigh 156.2 pounds (71 kg) and the top photos where he is supposed to weigh 165 pounds (75 kg). The lack of definition in his face now, compared to July says a lot.

If I had to take a pick,I'd say he was thinner in the upper body this year, but it's hard to judge.You've go a point on his face though, even if he's 4 kg muscle lighter, he must be carrying some of that in extra body fat. So I agree it's hard to believe those weight claims.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yes, the face is always a good pointer to weight gain/loss and his looks the same.
You get the impression he's lost weight, due to the white panels on the RS jersey.
Look more closely and his chest looks much the same, too.

 

[Ripper]

If I had to take a pick,I'd say he was thinner in the upper body this year, but it's hard to judge.You've go a point on his face though, even if he's 4 kg muscle lighter, he must be carrying some of that in extra body fat. So I agree it's hard to believe those weight claims.

I know at this time last year his arms likely added to his weight. But what I am talking about is, have you ever ridden next to someone and had a rough idea of their weight? Not right down to the kg or lb, but an approximation? In other words, you can likely tell if someone is in the mid-150 lb range compared to the mid-160 lb range.

I've seen a fair number of pros close up and there is a pretty clear difference between those who are 135-45 (e.g. Contra, Horner), ~150-155 (Evans), someone like Pharm (160's), and a sprinter who might be 170-180.

 

[python]

jeebus his weght bs again

c'mon, guys.

armstrong himself mentioned - i believe in the interview with the dutch or belgian media - that his weight was pretty low if not the lowest during the 20009 tour. also, cyclismag had an article where his 2009 tour weight (based on the pre-tour medical checks) was one of the lowest in years. they attributed his poor itt to the fact.

guys, stop paying attention to the weight bs. it's old tired spinning pure and simple.