The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

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BroDeal said:
On a non-troll, non-nutjob related note, has anyone checked out Wikipedia's Armstrong entry and seen that it definitely promotes the myth. The weights that are listed have been selectively chosen to make it appear like he lost weight later in his career. There are lots of other examples. For example, it says that the conviction of Dr. Ferrari was thrown out because it was baseless instead of because the limititation period had expired.
Fix it. If you can provide verifiable and reliable citations for any content you want to add, and show relevance, it will probably be allowed. They're not as strict in more obscure articles, but they hold a pretty tight leash on popular topics and articles about living persons; this one is both. That doesn't mean there aren't problems in articles like that, but it should be easy to fix.
 

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Maybe we need two threads about Lance Armstrong. One for bashing and gushing, and one for neutral facts and questions.

And there could be one just for me. There would be lots of user names with banned under them, and every so often Alpe would come and delete the entire thread and I'd have to start again.

Could be the solution here. What do we say chaps? :D
 
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A staff writer on the Team RadioShack site wrote a piece, wrapping up winter and projecting to Spring and Summer.

"Lance has stated already that he is more involved in this team than any other before and it will be fascinating to see if his leadership and experience can raise Team Radioshack to a new level of dominance and perhaps another yellow jersey."

The whole piece is written very much from the perspective of Lance passing on the torch to the others. And, privately, I take that "the new level of dominance" is trumping the "back-to-back" dominance that was winning two overall team rankings in February stage races, and not trumping the dominance of, say, the sort of Tour dominance of Lance's earlier teams, like Discovery.

I actually don't mind this putting a positive spin on things on own sites too much, all teams do it to some extent.

But reading this article that just appeared, I am wondering if Lance has smelled the coffee, and now the Team spinners are clearing the stage for a new narrative, away from win #8 expectations, in which this year will be presented, in retrospect, but as if it has been the purpose all along, as "all about" the master passing on the craft to the young disciples.

Reading literally, they could even be lowering the standard to measure domination and success by, to their own crowd, bit by bit. I find the angle, and word choice, of the whole piece quite interesting.

In the context of the whole article, those last few words could be read two ways. As an overall win. But it doesn't cast it in iron. It could also be read as a goal revision: total success is getting a yellow jersey somewhere en-route, by anyone in the team, rather than over Lance's shoulders, in Paris. Anyone's Jellow Jersey would be a victory by, and based on, the master skills of Lance.

If Lance gets a Maillot Jaune it would be quite a feat. Not one I would welcome, as I'd like cycling to move on in a time when the stage is already filled with exciting new names that will be the future of the sport, and Lance is a huge distraction, rather than an asset, in selling the product that post-Lance-era-cycling already is. But a feat nevertheless.

But, to me, the way Lance has been rolled out this season as the figurehead of ship "Lance's Armstrong Team Radioshack", and the places he is showing up in, and not up in, is all starting to add up to a general lowering of expectations.

I am not too interested how a picking of "the worst pictures" looks just now, I fully expect Lance to be in reasonable shape come July, and for an old dude, in staggering shape. If he didn't have his own past, his actual results will probably be pretty decent. Even compared to some of the young guns around him. But compared to the top, I don't expect him to make many ripples on the road though.

I always expected the 2010 narration to flip, out of grace necessity, towards "one for the team".

But I didn't expect that to happen any earlier than mountain stage #3. #2 at a push.

Maybe I am reading too much into it, as my expectations are so low. But I do find the signals we are getting from above so early on quite peculiar.

To see an official piece written about how "the success of Team Radioshack may very well depend on Lance’s ability to transfer these intangible characteristics to a team"... about how Lance will be passing on his skills to enable the Team step up to success and greatness, rather Lance.... peculiar.
 

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Speaking of Alpe, he promises me in a PM he will delete all my posts very soon after they are posted, then he f*cks off.

I wouldn't have posted a lot of silly one liners if I'd known they would be there more than two minutes.

This must be more of that conspiracy theory to make me appear as a troll. :rolleyes:
 
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Similarities?

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Ninety5rpm said:
Similarities?

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Ha, this does look similar!

Not sure about the Floyd one, Lance looks bigger in the Murcia TT photo that Floyd I reckon. But maybe along the similar lines of 'hGH gut' Though really in the TT position the amount of gut will be influenced by tuck etc.

Also, what is Floyd sitting on? there doesn't look like much saddle there!
 
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Just in case someone later claims that RCS wronged Radio Shack by not inviting them to the Giro:

lancearmstrong Interesting 2 read that @teamradioshack not selected 4 the Giro. Unrelated - guess they got our letter Jan 23 saying we wouldn't be coming.
 
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Ha, this does look similar!

Not sure about the Floyd one, Lance looks bigger in the Murcia TT photo that Floyd I reckon. But maybe along the similar lines of 'hGH gut' Though really in the TT position the amount of gut will be influenced by tuck etc.

Also, what is Floyd sitting on? there doesn't look like much saddle there!

Curious though, what year was that? He's supposed to be 71kg right now, which is the lowest weight I've seen reported for him (by him) since he returned in 1999, and he still looks lighter in this photograph (which is post-Tour, so I assume at his optimal weight).
 
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Publicus said:
Curious though, what year was that? He's supposed to be 71kg right now, which is the lowest weight I've seen reported for him (by him) since he returned in 1999, and he still looks lighter in this photograph (which is post-Tour, so I assume at his optimal weight).

'04 or '05 cos he is on Disco

I reckon '05 cos of the Nike Free Shoe, which I don't think were out in '04, though they may have been released for athens games edit: which was after the tour anyway?
 

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'04 or '05 cos he is on Disco

I reckon '05 cos of the Nike Free Shoe, which I don't think were out in '04, though they may have been released for athens games edit: which was after the tour anyway?

2005 - as there was no Team Discovery Channel in '04.
 

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Ninety5rpm said:
Similarities?

1) Both won the TdF.
2) Both are North American
3) Neither are on Mr Bordy's Noel Card List

4) Lance's 2005 physique is very similiar to his 2010 physique,
although Lance is 5 years older now - and too OLD to win the Tour lol.

Too bad the CN Forum was not around in 2005 - lots of "chubby" picture potentials!

Anyway, does anyone really think it was Lance's weight that kept him from starting Milan San Remo?

Doubt it.

But it probably was NOT the squirts that kept Lance from starting either.

Seems the real reason was that he was trying to snub the current MSR/GIRO suits. Bunch of bozos.



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lancearmstrong Interesting 2 read that @teamradioshack not selected 4 the Giro. Unrelated - guess they got our letter Jan 23 saying we wouldn't be coming.

What is wrong with Lances' tweet? Were the gilted fan boys'+(haters) dissappointed that Lance and Radioshack chose not to participate in the Giro.

The fanboys and Lance haters must someday realize that the universe does not revolve around Planet Armstrong.
 
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flicker said:
lancearmstrong Interesting 2 read that @teamradioshack not selected 4 the Giro. Unrelated - guess they got our letter Jan 23 saying we wouldn't be coming.

What is wrong with Lances' tweet? Were the gilted fan boys'+(haters) dissappointed that Lance and Radioshack chose not to participate in the Giro.

The fanboys and Lance haters must someday realize that the universe does not revolve around Planet Armstrong.

I can swear I read or heard Hog's interview a month or so ago where he said that they actually want to race Giro.
 

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Delicato said:
I can swear I read or heard Hog's interview a month or so ago where he said that they actually want to race Giro.

Maybe the hog did say that. Maybe not. Obviously Radioshack does not have the leaders to campign Giro ToC Tour. The Italians peak for the Giro, it is not a training race for them like the ToC has been in the past.
 
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As usual The Hog tries to invent a story.

On January 27th in a interview with Biciciclismo The Hog said that he was not sure if they would be invited.

“It’s not yet decided if we’ll ride the Giro or not, it’s up in the air. We’re talking with the organisers RCS,”

Now The Hog says he sent a letter to RCS on January 23rd saying they were not coming.
 
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Race Radio said:
As usual The Hog tries to invent a story.

On January 27th in a interview with Biciciclismo The Hog said that he was not sure if they would be invited.

“It’s not yet decided if we’ll ride the Giro or not, it’s up in the air. We’re talking with the organisers RCS,”

Now The Hog says he sent a letter to RCS on January 23rd saying they were not coming.

lol wut? :rolleyes:

and for me if LA won the Tour in '99 then Floyd won the Tour in '06. (Shame about the aftermath)
 
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