The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

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Agreed. This line goes into the troll hall of shame

Yeah listen to this dude. :rolleyes: There was tension in Astana last year because Contador thought his poop did not stink and it caused friction with the old guard. If it wasn't for a technicality with chicken he would not have ever won before so it is not like he earned it by himself besides Levi let him win. He was jealous of Lance and could not take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that Lance and Levi brought to Astana. He wants to twitt about having to buy wheels and other such nonsense when he won. There is no I in team.
 
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Yeah listen to this dude. :rolleyes: There was tension in Astana last year because Contador thought his poop did not stink and it caused friction with the old guard. If it wasn't for a technicality with chicken he would not have ever won before so it is not like he earned it by himself besides Levi let him win. He was jealous of Lance and could not take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that Lance and Levi brought to Astana. He wants to twitt about having to buy wheels and other such nonsense when he won. There is no I in team.

So I guess AC is the underdog for this TDF then? If I take your notions, either Lance or Levi will win it? I give you that Levi and Lance are good riders even though i'm not a fan I'm objective enough to acept it.
 
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was just reading de telegraaf and got reminded about the california press conference by texas.

he said everything the hog said here...i am old...blah blah, i am not in form i want... blah blah, i wanted to be with my pregnant sweetly..blah blah, i was sick blah blah, im 39 and have to compete against the guys in their twenties blah


i'm ok with all that but why the fark he has to remind us his age every time he opens his trap ?

who's reminding it to ?

what a boring whiner !!
 
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was just reading de telegraaf and got reminded about the california press conference by texas.

he said everything the hog said here...i am old...blah blah, i am not in form i want... blah blah, i wanted to be with my pregnant sweetly..blah blah, i was sick blah blah, im 39 and have to compete against the guys in their twenties blah


i'm ok with all that but why the fark he has to remind us his age every time he opens his trap ?

who's reminding it to ?

what a boring whiner !!

Just trying to set the stage for a series of gushing articles about his amazing form for a 38 year old. He is a marketing a product that is based on a mythology (that he is a unique physical specimen) and so this just feeds into it. Whatever happens, he will make a ton more money over the next couple of years. Credit where credit is due, dude knows how to leverage his best asset.
 

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was just reading de telegraaf and got reminded about the california press conference by texas.

he said everything the hog said here...i am old...blah blah, i am not in form i want... blah blah, i wanted to be with my pregnant sweetly..blah blah, i was sick blah blah, im 39 and have to compete against the guys in their twenties blah


i'm ok with all that but why the fark he has to remind us his age every time he opens his trap ?

who's reminding it to ?

what a boring whiner !!


I noted from the photos of the press conferece everyone is wearing short sleave t-shirts etc. because its hot and Lance is rugged up in a gut hiding jumper and wind jacket!

My god his speech was just so lovely. Its amazing that he juggles his family life with being a professional cyclist. There are no other professional cyclists who have juggle family life and cycling. Lance is the only one and he is amazing for doing so.

Photos: http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/05/news/armstrong-candid-about-condition-tour-ambitions_116161

Contador really got in his head and made him confort eat.
 
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Just trying to set the stage for a series of gushing articles about his amazing form for a 38 year old. He is a marketing a product that is based on a mythology (that he is a unique physical specimen) and so this just feeds into it. Whatever happens, he will make a ton more money over the next couple of years. Credit where credit is due, dude knows how to leverage his best asset.

LA has to spin things heavily these days. Vino is schooling him on what a successful comeback by an old guy looks like.
 

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LA has to spin things heavily these days. Vino is schooling him on what a successful comeback by an old guy looks like.

Don't worry. The Lance fanboys on VeloNews website are keeping the dream alive.... this one is the best:

"More gamesmanship i think when he says no he means yes and vice versa. I would imagine he feels really strong and figures this is the way to win TDF. If he plays possum for the first two weeks the other teams will be watching AC, Schleck, etc and allow them to be somewhat isolated. When there is an attack the big boys will be watching each other to respond, which is all the hesitation he will need. I see Horner "losing" time one day in order to be allowed in a break later. Then he will get dropped from the break and Lance will bridge... "
 

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Don't worry. The Lance fanboys on VeloNews website are keeping the dream alive.... this one is the best:

"More gamesmanship i think when he says no he means yes and vice versa. I would imagine he feels really strong and figures this is the way to win TDF. If he plays possum for the first two weeks the other teams will be watching AC, Schleck, etc and allow them to be somewhat isolated. When there is an attack the big boys will be watching each other to respond, which is all the hesitation he will need. I see Horner "losing" time one day in order to be allowed in a break later. Then he will get dropped from the break and Lance will bridge... "

velonews source of all disinformation.
 
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dickwrench said:
Yeah listen to this dude. :rolleyes: There was tension in Astana last year because Contador thought his poop did not stink and it caused friction with the old guard. If it wasn't for a technicality with chicken he would not have ever won before so it is not like he earned it by himself besides Levi let him win. He was jealous of Lance and could not take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that Lance and Levi brought to Astana. He wants to twitt about having to buy wheels and other such nonsense when he won. There is no I in team.

riiiight, chasing your team leader until you crack is a great example of teamwork.

another newbie who gets all of his info from Livestrong press releases. :rolleyes:
 
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Very frank and humble remarks by Lance Armstrong in that interview, admitting his form is crap and has doubts about doing well at the tour, and also praising his rivals as better than the people he won his tours against.

Doesn't he get any brownie points for this amongst the critics?
 

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Very frank and humble remarks by Lance Armstrong in that interview, admitting his form is crap and has doubts about doing well at the tour, and also praising his rivals as better than the people he won his tours against.

Doesn't he get any brownie points for this amongst the critics?

In the video I saw he said he still believes that he can win the TdF. I don't recall even his most enthusiastic supporters on this forum believing he can win the TdF this year.
 
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Yeah listen to this dude. :rolleyes: There was tension in Astana last year because Contador thought his poop did not stink and it caused friction with the old guard. If it wasn't for a technicality with chicken he would not have ever won before so it is not like he earned it by himself besides Levi let him win. He was jealous of Lance and could not take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that Lance and Levi brought to Astana. He wants to twitt about having to buy wheels and other such nonsense when he won. There is no I in team.

Wow. Time for a fact check. Contador didn't start using twitter in earnest until January 21 this year, after just two in 2009. He never twitted about buying Time Trial wheels. I did, though, to the point where I received a threat, and some other people tried to give me grief. Contador made a brief, casual mention of it in an interview last Fall with La Gazzetta dello Sport. That was it. He really did buy his own, very expensive TT wheels - Bruyneel finally admitted it in an interview with Marca this year. If you'd like to actually check the story, last year I started a thread called Who Do You Trust - LA & JB or AC? AKA Wheel Gate. Even better was the later Wheel Gate thread after Bruyneel admitted the truth, and all the conversations at both later. But since among other things, you're trying to foist some of Armstrong's infamous revisionist history on people, here's the story by someone who was close to it. If you're this wrong about twitts about TT wheels, why should people believe you're right about anything else?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=5427

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=5794

If you believe that, as Bruyneel said, veteran mechanic Faustino Munoz (Bruyneel just said "a member of Contador's entourage"), could actually be confused about wheels because of decals, check out this video of the guy in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFY-J9FVo9s&playnext_from=TL&videos=vZupyl7TVH4




From Josu Garai of Marca, translated by Google:

It happened the day before the start of the Tour, Astana mechanics when riding bikes that were to be used in the time trial in Monaco. He thought they were, as might seem logical, for Albert and for Lance, but the mechanic told him not to Trek, which were for Armstrong, but not to worry because they were like the rest and only changed the labeling.

Without wishing to discuss the Spanish mechanic took a scale and weighed the wheels of one and the other, showing his partner the mistake that had since the new weighing about 150 grams lighter than the others. "One for Lance and one for Alberto "he said, to which he replied:" I have to check with Armstrong. "

Seeing that there was something fishy, the mechanical counter told him not to worry. And, after talking to Albert, he decided that it was not worth getting angry so soon, had not started the Tour, but to commission another game like that he paid them from his pocket, as it were (on the street with a value of 5,000 euros). A few hours later, just before dinner, came the two wheels that Contador had requested. With time running out gave pastic, special glue tube, and after dinner put them to dry up during the night.

The next morning, the day of the start of the Tour, Contador mechanic handed over the two wheels 'Lightweight', that is the mark of the same, the mechanic for the Trek decorated with the signs of 'Bontrager' and representative of both colors. And Contador and Lance ran on equal terms. The Spanish, of course, was 22 seconds better than the American in the 15.5 km long.

A few days later, Armstrong returned to use this wheel in the team time trial, but not Albert, who by choice was the 'heavy'. However, in the final individual time trial, that of Annecy, the used the two, even Lance with another different design than the first day. The result was even more clear, as the Spanish, who won the stage, took 1:30 to American.

A curious and very knowledgeable they could add that, while the corridors of Astana, Contador included, had at their disposal during the Tour Leightweight wheels 240, Armstrong had prepared for the revolutionary new model 190 with ceramic bearings, approximately 15% lighter and 30% more rigid thanks to the twisted-carbon and non-linear-employed.

Only a true 'stooge' of the material and the latest technical advances, such as mechanical counter, which, if not the world's best in his field will be missing some, so it raffle, could tell the difference. Pero la destapó. But uncovered.

Contador, probably, would have won the Tour with the other wheels, but this story is not an invention of a frame or other Spanish media, nor is Alberto, its mechanics and its surroundings, perfect connoisseurs suffered because of the same but the sad reality, only a small part of it, of what happened in the 2009 Tour within the Astana team.

http://marcawas5.recoletos.es/blogs/Controlador?opcion=9&codPost=5129
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
In the video I saw he said he still believes that he can win the TdF. I don't recall even his most enthusiastic supporters on this forum believing he can win the TdF this year.

Um, if he were to improve on his form from last year - now looking doubtful - and AC and Schleck were not quite on form or something happens to them, he might be in with a shout. He is right not to rule himself out. Who would do that anyway? But I think the interview was very honest.
 
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All class..... dismissing Ulrich, Basso, and all the others he beat 7 times as not as talented as Schleck and Contador.

Funny how getting tested 40 times a year effects Armstrong's talent
 
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Race Radio said:
All class..... dismissing Ulrich, Basso, and all the others he beat 7 times as not as talented as Schleck and Contador.

I thought you'd find something. :rolleyes:

He could have claimed he won his tours by beating the best guys ever. But no, he is saying these current guys are the best. That's humble. It's true as well.

Funny how getting tested 40 times a year effects Armstrong's talent

He was tested last year, wasn't he? He's 38 and took four years out - very difficult to ever get back to how he once was, and even if he did it might still leave him a bit short.
 
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Eyjafjallajokull said:
He could have claimed he won his tours by beating the best guys ever. But no, he is saying these current guys are the best. That's humble. It's true as well.

What he's doing is setting up a ready-made excuse for the spin machine, when he fails to win.
 
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flicker said:
velonews source of all disinformation.

Let me help you there - "velonews source of all disinformation"; let's change that to "a post on Velonews by some forum poster".

And it goes without saying that a post by, ummm, let me think... oooh, now I have it, a post by a similar person on this forum could never be disinformation or agenda driven.

C'mon Flicker, that really was not worthy. Most of your posts are informative and on topic.

My son races in local crits and he basically says "Velonews for the pictures, Cyclingnews for the reporting". There is room for more than one cycling website, and any sane person treats the comments/forums at any site for what they are.
 
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All class..... dismissing Ulrich, Basso, and all the others he beat 7 times as not as talented as Schleck and Contador.

Funny how getting tested 40 times a year effects Armstrong's talent

Not to mention that we must all recall that he called the 2008 Tour "a joke of a race" and completely dissed Sastre and Van de Velde as riders he could "crush."

So he was totally downplaying the competition untill they starting kicking his *** and now suddenly he says these guys are on another level from Beloki and Zulle and Ulrich et al.

I have no sympathy at all for the man and I'm happy to see the wonderfull sport of cycling beating some humility and respect into Lance Armstrong as it does for ever rider who ever embarks on a racing career.
 
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BikeCentric said:
Not to mention that we must all recall that he called the 2008 Tour "a joke of a race" and completely dissed Sastre and Van de Velde as riders he could "crush."

Well he has said in the past that his 2009 performance would have won the 2008 tour. I think he is probably right about that. That just shows you how much of a step up last year's race was.

I don't know what some of you people want from LA. He is now saying the things you desperately wanted him to say for ages, but you guys still find fault with it.

Just what can he say that would please you?

And don't you agree that AC is a better rider than any of his main rivals in his time?
 
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said it awhile ago...the old psycho stuff via younger guys is dead...he knows he is a dead man and it is going to be a bad mark on him...he will DNF pretty fast after contractual obligations ect...the guy is going to retire sad...and for the best before he gets his *** chewed off and has no way to handle that... bye lance...me thinks he is a joke in the peloton at this point...
 

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said it awhile ago...the old psycho stuff via younger guys is dead...he knows he is a dead man and it is going to be a bad mark on him...he will DNF pretty fast after contractual obligations ect...the guy is going to retire sad...and for the best before he gets his *** chewed off and has no way to handle that... bye lance...me thinks he is a joke in the peloton at this point...

Problem this time he's got an entire team built around him along with an Americna sponsor who has invested money until 2012. Once again he's happy to take his cash but everyone elses money is an after thought. What the hell is Radioshack going to do in Professional cycling once Lance has gone and what of the ProTour licence? Just plain stupid.
 
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