The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[Oldman]

Enter the hyenas.

That's a picture of a kitty.

 

[saganftw]

Do you have any evidence that anyone other than Armstrong paid the UCI?

do you have any evidence that money paid to the UCI was bribery?

if yes pls sent me a link,if no we can speculate more because i love conspiracy theories

 

[Mellow Velo]

LA Twitter

Good morning! 7am surprise anti-doping blood control.

Aren't all doping controls supposed to be a surprise? Oh wait...........

Now, isn't it time to take this thread out of the oven? It's done.

 

[rhubroma]

do you have any evidence that money paid to the UCI was bribery?

if yes pls sent me a link,if no we can speculate more because i love conspiracy theories

Well a conflict of interests is the same thing, really. Why can't you see the obvious?

Brilliant a dope feind pays a corrupt organization toward doping "controls," and we expect those controls to better, nor could we ever doubt the sincerity of the doner, or that the corrupt organization doing the controlling wouldn't dare give the said doner preferential treatment.

Is it me, or is it simply that the world is full of stupid people?

 

[grimsbychris]

Yeah, I'm sure every other team couldn't compare despite using the same docs, same equipment, same drugs

....It's all one great big Bruyneel/WADA/UCI conspiracy.

Who did Indurain and Pantani payoff? And how did their DS / team leadership lose their connections?

I think its too easy to get involved in the did he didnt he? and if he did so was everybody else. There is no doubt he was/is a great athlete but its like a boxer who doesnt know when to go quietly. When the peloton effectively neutralised the stage who was in charge? Cancellara not Lance.

 

[hamperium]

dark day for lance
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hamperium_espana/4759768806/
end of a big rider
good luck Lance

 

[BroDeal]

do you have any evidence that money paid to the UCI was bribery?

So you don't have any evidence that any rider other than Armstrong paid the UCI. Yup, I thought so.

Get back to us when McQuaid and Armstrong finalize their story about how much and how many payments were made.

 

[eleven]

Do you have any evidence that anyone other than Armstrong paid the UCI?

...crickets....

I thought so.

No. others got caught. But they still have yellow jersey, world champion rainbows and TDF winnings.

 

[ulrikmm]

I'm one of a lot of people who were big fans of Armstrong when he first came back, I even had a daily blog where people could go to see the best articles about his training & racing, videos, twitpics, etc. Then he turned me into a non-fan, and when he used twitter and the media to lie about and sling mud at Alberto Contador, I joined the fray, because not many people were bothering to read the truth in the Spanish press.

This was a week of karma. Juliet Macur wrote in the NY Times that members of other teams who had been in the same hotels as Astana in the 2009 Tour told her that Lance had trash talked Alberto at the dinner table while he was there. They were afraid to have their names in the paper because they feared repercussions from Armstrong and his team at the Tour. That's a pretty big statement right there.

Then there was the classic photo that I did my best to circulate on twitter. First he, and his manager via e-mail, said that he had not spoken to Contador in almost a year. A minute later he said he knew what it looked like he was doing in the photo, but that wasn't it, and that he couldn't recall what the chitchat was about.

So he chit chatted with a guy he claimed was a fierce rival on Tuesday, couldn't remember what was said, and said on Thursday that he hadn't spoken to him even though there was the picture. Bruyneel chimed in and said that they speak to each other all the time during the race, and that he expected them to speak again that day.

Last year Lance had the famous tweet telling "Pistolero" to thank his team. Again, people just bought into it. In real life, Alberto had at least given a luxury watch to seven of the riders who made the effort to attend the Tour celebration. Lance skipped it to hang out with sponsors, but Bruyneel said he had received a number of messages from Contador saying he had a present for him.

So, Alberto brought the watches along and walked to the RS bus to deliver them. The first story was that Lance was away signing in, but he later said that he was in the back of the bus, busy.

Then there was the actual riding. After his first flat riding in the gutter on the cobbles, Sean Kelly said it was a big mistake to go in there again because there's stuff in there like slivers that can cause flats. He did anyway, got another flat, and then said his team needed to share the blame. You all saw the ride today.

Everything above was just a summary of what happened, or was said this week. There are still people here who can hear Lance say he hasn't spoken to Contador in a year, and Bruyneel say the two speak all the time, and believe them both. Enjoy the Col de la Madeleine, and the two trips up the Tourmalet.

This is a very good summary - appreciated. Armstrong would be "great" as a spin doctor in dirty politics.

 

[saganftw]

So you don't have any evidence that any rider other than Armstrong paid the UCI. Yup, I thought so.

Get back to us when McQuaid and Armstrong finalize their story about how much and how many payments were made.

the fact that no other riders paid UCI doesnt mean they didnt...we dont know
the fact that armstrong paid (or lets say donated) UCI doesnt mean it was bribery...we dont know

yes you can think it was bribery and there is some sort of money making bussiness in this whole case and i dont blame you,its suspicious...but you dont have evidence yet,its very easy to just say things but what you think and what you can prove are two different things

but since its anonymous internet forum you can say whatever you want,you are not responsible for anything

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

This is a very good summary - appreciated. Armstrong would be "great" as a spin doctor in dirty politics.

swordsman forgot Lance's most recent comment that about the whole watches business.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/4...s-the-most-talented-says-Lance-Armstrong.aspx

?There is a mutual respect, despite everything that?s happened in the last 12 months; we?re tired of being at odds with one another.?

Whut.

this morning Contador delivered a pair of watches to Armstrong and director sportif Johan Bruyneel as a thank you gift for their part in his Tour victory last year.
?That was very generous,? said Armstrong of the gift. ?He clearly realises what an excellent team it was that he had behind him last year.?

Whut whut whut whut whut whut whut whut.
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[Cobblestones]

On his twitter he congratulates Andy and Cuddles. No word about Contador and his other former teammates from Astana.

 

[Publicus]

On his twitter he congratulates Andy and Cuddles. No word about Contador and his other former teammates from Astana.

I almost made an issue of it, but then remembered that Andy won and Cuddles is in yellow. Would look odd to congratulate AC for basically ending his TdF (apart from the initial crash; once it was report Armstrong was off the back Tiralongo and Navarro went to the front).

 

[ulrikmm]

Enter the hyenas.

A stuffed lion, apparantly

 

[Cobblestones]

A stuffed lion, apparantly

The type Evans like to cuddle.

 

[bobs nob]

He had. He shut it down before the summit of the Cat. 3 climb.

Was that Horner riding with him and drinking a can of Coke? That was awesome. LA looked truly beaten and there is a teammate right next to him just completely bored and chillin'. Horner shoulda stopped by the side of the road and picked up some souvenirs and a hot dog and then waited for Lance to catch up.

 

[bobs nob]

i almost felt sorry for the guy today. almost.

I'll admit it. I did feel sorry for him. But the next time i see him make an *** of himself, I'll be able to look back on today with the appropriate emotion. It won't be a long wait.

 

[bobs nob]

You find this admirable I see.

Before it was "he never tested positive".

Now it's "He's still a great champion regardless".

Must be nice to live in a world without ethics and morals to hinder your view of the world.

Well...the hours are good...and there's no heavy lifting....could be worse....

 

[Publicus]

Was that Horner riding with him and drinking a can of Coke? That was awesome. LA looked truly beaten and there is a teammate right next to him just completely bored and chillin'. Horner shoulda stopped by the side of the road and picked up some souvenirs and a hot dog and then waited for Lance to catch up.

That was Horner.

 

[Lady Luck]

Was that Horner riding with him and drinking a can of Coke? That was awesome. LA looked truly beaten and there is a teammate right next to him just completely bored and chillin'. Horner shoulda stopped by the side of the road and picked up some souvenirs and a hot dog and then waited for Lance to catch up.

Horner had not just been in a crash.

 

[bobs nob]

Yeah, I'm sure every other team couldn't compare despite using the same docs, same equipment, same drugs

....It's all one great big Bruyneel/WADA/UCI conspiracy.

Who did Indurain and Pantani payoff? And how did their DS / team leadership lose their connections?

yup....everyone does it....don't blame me....riiiiiiighhttt

 

[Anonymous]

On his twitter he congratulates Andy and Cuddles. No word about Contador and his other former teammates from Astana.

Typically classy Armstrong.

 

[bobs nob]

Horner had not just been in a crash.

Yes, thank you Sherlock Holmes. What the heck does that have to do with what I said? Did Lance need horner and brajkovic to hold his hand up to the finish?

I have already said he did great to finish after reviewing the video. He is not God, you know. Speaking of him in tones other then reverence is not blasphemy.

 

[bobs nob]

Typically classy Armstrong.

You can't hide class. You also can't buy it.

 

[Lady Luck]

Typically classy Armstrong.

Are we nit picking? AC did not win the stage or take yellow today.

Even if Armstrong genuflected before a poster of Contador I think some of you would still find fault.