The Official Moser is the new Moser Thread

[Hugo Koblet]

F*ck me for overreacting yesterday.

And sorry to my neighbours cause I've been screaming the whole last 600 metres when Moreno closed the gap to Kolobnev Just Nordhaug too strong. But we have another card for the Worlds!

I'd say that he's still a bit from his topform. Yesterday was his first good showing since Poland but on topform he beats Nordhaug every single time in that sprint which to me indicates that he's not quite there yet.

However, he still has two weeks and Montréal is a hard race so it's definitely a good sign.

 

[Falken]

He will be there in the worlds, definately. Strong showing there, he did the right the thing, nordhaug just very strong and smart too.

Calm down a bit. I'm also a believer in Moser, but the Worlds is 260k and we haven't yet seen him handle that distance.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yea, seems we know have 2 strong riders, i wonder whether jens_attack dislike for il grillo is a bit less now

 

[Eshnar]

Calm down a bit. I'm also a believer in Moser, but the Worlds is 260k and we haven't yet seen him handle that distance.

we saw him, actually. He came 3rd in the Italian Championship that was 250 kms long.

10th time we repeat that

 

[Falken]

we saw him, actually. He came 3rd in the Italian Championship that was 250 kms long.

10th time we repeat that

Oops, I forgot about that. Still, Italian Championship isn't the Worlds or one of the Monuments where the competition is much stiffer. But hey, I hope he can be competitive in the Worlds, just think we shouldn't have unreasonable expectations on the youngster, he is still just 21.

 

[Eshnar]

Oops, I forgot about that. Still, Italian Championship isn't the Worlds or one of the Monuments where the competition is much stiffer. But hey, I hope he can be competitive in the Worlds, just think we shouldn't have unreasonable expectations on the youngster, he is still just 21.

I think no one really expects him to podium in standard conditions. But in a late breakaway (let's say in the penultimate lap) of 2nd tiers Moser would be really dangerous for everyone.

 

[Falken]

I think no one really expects him to podium in standard conditions. But in a late breakaway (let's say in the penultimate lap) of 2nd tiers Moser would be really dangerous for everyone.

This I agree with.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Oops, I forgot about that. Still, Italian Championship isn't the Worlds or one of the Monuments where the competition is much stiffer. But hey, I hope he can be competitive in the Worlds, just think we shouldn't have unreasonable expectations on the youngster, he is still just 21.

Yeah, the competition is of course a lot tougher in the Worlds than in the Italian Championships and we've yet to see how Moser does against the best in the world.

Though he's shown good signs for the future as the Italian Championships were held on an incredible tough route - 254 km and 4000 meter altitude gain.

 

[SafeBet]

I'd say that he's still a bit from his topform. Yesterday was his first good showing since Poland but on topform he beats Nordhaug every single time in that sprint which to me indicates that he's not quite there yet.

Same impression I had.
And I agree with Eshnar on the role he should have: try to get in a late breakaway and see what happens then.

We don't need to control the race. Other teams will have to.

 

[will10]

Moreno was very good in what was a brutal Italian RR Champs. Could well be factor in Limburg.

 

[kanari]

I remember after EBH's season in 2009 and Sagan's in 2010 everybody thought they would be a factor in the WCRR but when things heated up they were nowhere to be seen. I have a feeling the same thing is going to happen this year with Moser but I agree that the Italian champs was at least a very positive indication regarding the distance. The level in the WC is way better than in the Italian champs though.

 

[Peccio89]

Just to keep everybody's feet on the ground, let's just say that even Visconti won three italian championship, and we all know that he vanishes after 220-230 km.

However seeing that he is getting in form is certainly a good sign.
With Nibali as captain, and guys like Moser, Gatto, Paolini and Ulissi to get in attacks before the last lap we are not that bad of a team despite Coni decision.
Go get the champ boys!!!!

 

[SafeBet]

For anybody who can read italian, Moreno is writing a daily blog on his road to Valkenburg. Here's the last chapter: http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/10-...volta-vita-mia-2-ma-felice-912562545620.shtml

On his last couple of weeks: I was calm, but deep inside of me I was wondering what had gone wrong. I did everything with the best commitment and yet I felt empty at the end of the races.


So I was not the only one starting to worry.

 

[Eshnar]

Just to keep everybody's feet on the ground, let's just say that even Visconti won three italian championship, and we all know that he vanishes after 220-230 km.

Yes but Visconti targets almost only that race in a year, he didn't win anything in WT races as far as I recall. Moser has already won at that level.
Edit: Well Visconti did win something

 

[Pippo_San]

Yes but Visconti targets almost only that race in a year, he didn't win anything in WT races as far as I recall. Moser has already won at that level.
Edit: Well Visconti did win something

Such a cruelty...couldn't agree more tho

 

[c&cfan]

I remember after EBH's season in 2009 and Sagan's in 2010 everybody thought they would be a factor in the WCRR but when things heated up they were nowhere to be seen. I have a feeling the same thing is going to happen this year with Moser but I agree that the Italian champs was at least a very positive indication regarding the distance. The level in the WC is way better than in the Italian champs though.

well i don't know what happened to sagan in 2010 and 2011, but he was already smoking everyone. same thing this year.

 

[Bushman]

I think he did a pretty good race. hit the front and took a huge turn for nibali with 6 km to go or something like that.
But he wasn't as big a factor a I hoped he could be. but still, his first pro season and first WC that's pretty good

 

[gustienordic]

I think he did a pretty good race. hit the front and took a huge turn for nibali with 6 km to go or something like that.
But he wasn't as big a factor a I hoped he could be. but still, his first pro season and first WC that's pretty good

Yes, the fact that he could do a turn like that suggests great things. I was worried about him dropping off the back. I wonder how he would have done as protected leader. He has more finish in him then Nibali I think.

 

[SafeBet]

Italy rode ok. Having Moser as a leader would have been premature.
Still, great to see him hitting the front in the final lap.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Italy rode ok. Having Moser as a leader would have been premature.
Still, great to see him hitting the front in the final lap.

Good to know..didn't watch or read about the race at all.... we will be on top again soon...one can hope

 

[Eshnar]

Italy rode ok.

(10c)

 

[SafeBet]

(10c)

I think we shouldn't overestimate the average quality of the italian riders.
We were in every break. We let other teams control the race.

I'm not sure what else we could expect from the likes of Gatto and Paolini. Attack with 4 laps to go?

Nibali should have attacked before, that's ok. But he probably wasn't feeling that well. He didn't have the legs he had in spring.

 

[Eshnar]

I think we shouldn't overestimate the average quality of the italian riders.
We were in every break. We let other teams control the race.

I'm not sure what else we could expect from the likes of Gatto and Paolini. Attack with 4 laps to go?

Nibali should have attacked before, that's ok. But he probably wasn't feeling that well. He didn't have the legs he had in spring.

We all knew that Italy hadn't a strong team. That's why our only chance was
NOT to wait for the final Cauberg. In the last 3 laps we did nothing to break the peloton (apart the silly acceleration by Nibali at the end of penultimate Cauberg). Then, it was clear Nibali could never be in contention for the sprint. Our fastest man on a finish like this was probly Gatto or Moser. In any case, Nibali was never an option, and Bettini should have made it clearer to his team before the race.

 

[SafeBet]

We differ on Nibali not being an option, not with his MSR and LBL form at least.
And I'm sure Bettini is with me on this. He believed Nibali could deliver, otherwise he really had no point in riding this way.

Then again, what italian rider could break the peloton with 3 laps to go? Moser himself? Maybe. Paolini? Gatto? Unlikely.

And beware I thought they rode ok, not great or even good.
But the average quality was really poor. Not as poor as last year, but not much better.

 

[Eshnar]

Then again, what italian rider could break the peloton with 3 laps to go? Moser himself? Maybe. Paolini? Gatto? Unlikely.

I don't know. What I know is that they should have tried.