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Don't know in which thread this goes; LRCP weekly Patrick Broe (he is a Visma DS if anyone forgotten lol) suggests more teams to get wild card to TdF, but makes teams smaller to compensate. He suggested teams change to 6 riders in each team. It's partly because breakaway riders rarely get wins because teams are so big they can control everything.

I thought it was an interesting discussion!
 
Don't know in which thread this goes; LRCP weekly Patrick Broe (he is a Visma DS if anyone forgotten lol) suggests more teams to get wild card to TdF, but makes teams smaller to compensate. He suggested teams change to 6 riders in each team. It's partly because breakaway riders rarely get wins because teams are so big they can control everything.

I thought it was an interesting discussion!
It is, if you do that however... invite four or five more teams.
Otherwise your peloton gets too small.
 
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Was the argument for fewer teams not to reduce the number of vehicles involved as a safety measure.
If that was the case I must have greately misunderstood as they talked about breakaways being easier to control with 8 than 6. Is that about cars?? Do they have 8 cars? That would indeed make the discussion much more uninteresting :grin::joycat:
Edit: I relistened! They're definitely talking about riders per team! :D
View: https://youtu.be/pAUdSl_iM_U?si=v_AUdCN65L0xo8Mc&t=946
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If that was the case I must have greately misunderstood as they talked about breakaways being easier to control with 8 than 6. Is that about cars?? Do they have 8 cars? That would indeed make the discussion much more uninteresting :grin::joycat:
Edit: I relistened! They're definitely talking about riders per team! :D
View: https://youtu.be/pAUdSl_iM_U?si=v_AUdCN65L0xo8Mc&t=946
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No, some years ago they (IIRC) reduced the number of teams, citing safety reasons.
 
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Think I'm done with Horner. Normally I check him out for a different perspective as I disagree quiet a lot with him. But this new video where he goes on about how he has made practically no mistakes in like 900 videos and all his tactical analysis is always correct, it's just too much. This and his constant talk about what rank different riders are... I'm just done.
 
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Think I'm done with Horner. Normally I check him out for a different perspective as I disagree quiet a lot with him. But this new video where he goes on about how he has made practically no mistakes in like 900 videos and all his tactical analysis is always correct, it's just too much. This and his constant talk about what rank different riders are... I'm just done.
You kinda see the unsaid elements of how/why he left the peacock tdf coverage
 
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Tobias Halland Johannessen’s powermeter reads about 6,5-6.6 w/kg for the final climb at 62-63 kg, and the LRCP guys estimate 7,1??

The discrepancy is way too much to be explained by margins of error or 65kg etalon normalized. It is simply way off!

Btw: The calculation made for the climb on stage 6 of Tirreno was probably very accurate as the estimate for THJ powermeter and LR estimate was super close. Around 6,3, to 6,4.
 
Think I'm done with Horner. Normally I check him out for a different perspective as I disagree quiet a lot with him. But this new video where he goes on about how he has made practically no mistakes in like 900 videos and all his tactical analysis is always correct, it's just too much. This and his constant talk about what rank different riders are... I'm just done.

He's so over the top that I just don't take it seriously 🤣🤣🤣 but I still enjoy it. It must be hard to have that kind of ego, it's next level weird 🥴🫨🙃🙃
 
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He's so over the top that I just don't take it seriously 🤣🤣🤣 but I still enjoy it. It must be hard to have that kind of ego, it's next level weird 🥴🫨🙃🙃
I remember calling him out in the comments at one point, for not mentioning a big weather change during a TT in his recap. He basically took the Fox news/entertainment defense. "It's not a recap, it's analysis" even when most of his videos a filled with play by play of who looked left, right or farted in the sprint.
 
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LRCP with stark criticism of Lidl-Trek for not selecting Vacek, but no mentioning that Wout van Aert is not racing for Visma. I'm starting to think that a strong bias is at play here...
Yeah of course he's gonna be biased nowadays 🥴 It's impossible not to.

The fact that either have no jingle is a plus for me as I sometimes also use them for falling asleep. I hate jingles! Broe has a very nice voice! I am so sensitive to voices! It can make or break my listening completely!
 
Yeah of course he's gonna be biased nowadays 🥴 It's impossible not to.
I don't see why he can't explain to his listeners the rationale for this. Makes the podcast much less valuable imo. Broe is, in my opinion, the sharpest mind in cycling media these days, but whenever Visma is concerned he just mutes himself and let's Naesen talk
 
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Might that just be because it's been known for long that WVA wouldn't be riding whereas Vacek's omission is recent news?
Could very well be! Still, WVA is a top favorite for this race, and Vacek is more like an outsider. I think it is strange to spend minutes on Vacek not going and not discuss a much bigger name missing. I think that most casual fans who watches SanRemo will be surprised to hear that WVA is missing it because(?) he's training?
 
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Could very well be! Still, WVA is a top favorite for this race, and Vacek is more like an outsider. I think it is strange to spend minutes on Vacek not going and not discuss a much bigger name missing. I think that most casual fans who watches SanRemo will be surprised to hear that WVA is missing it because(?) he's training?

I don't listen to it, so I have no idea whether they've already discussed it extensively in past episodes.
 
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View: https://x.com/johanbruyneel/status/1916595008133910695?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ


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Patrick Broe is the sharpest commentator on cycling imo, but in his latest podcast on LRCP (Giro stage 18 recap) he states something he must know is completely untrue: He says he went back and watched the Galibier stage (stage 4 tdf 24') and that Ayuso was pulling just as much as Almeida.

Easy to fact check, so...

I took the time on my stopwatch and came to this considering the tv-pictures only: Across pulling efforts, Almeida was on the front for around 7 min 49 s and Ayuso for 4 min 15. Almeida pulled roughly 85 % longer than Ayuso.

Why deliberately mislead people about this?
 
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Patrick Broe is the sharpest commentator on cycling imo, but in his latest podcast on LRCP (Giro stage 18 recap) he states something he must know is completely untrue: He says he went back and watched the Galibier stage (stage 4 tdf 24') and that Ayuso was pulling just as much as Almeida.

Easy to fact check, so...

I took the time on my stopwatch and came to this considering the tv-pictures only: Across pulling efforts, Almeida was on the front for around 7 min 49 s and Ayuso for 4 min 15. Almeida pulled roughly 90 % longer than Ayuso.

Why deliberately mislead people about this?
Because he is aware that he started the "Ayuso refuses to ride for anyone and I love it" hype 2022 and now he knows he may not look that good. Probably more people than I have commented on it these last days and even before it.

Broe persona likes villains, so heaven knows why today he layed it all on Almeida least for reasons above.

Or he's human and unaware of his own projections.
 
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Broe persona likes villains, so heaven knows why today he layed it all on Almeida least for reasons above.
I wasn't aware he helped to start it, so maybe he feels bad about it now? He is a true contrarian and I kinda like that. So much of cycling media are all too naive and conformist imo.

Almeida seem like quite the nice guy from all I can see. Also Yates, who seems calm and collected ,said that they were ready to launch but "one guy" wasn't in position, meaning Ayuso obviously. Everyone saw what happened that day.

Broe could say something like, Ayuso did good pulls on Galibier - the drama was overrated. But he actually makes a much stronger statement than that - he's looking back at the stage, and behold the public perception is completely wrong - they pulled the same amount.

Such a strange false narrative or misperception created by Broe. He likes to "fudge the numbers" sometimes, but mostly to support a narrative that is kinda true, but is not gaining public attention. However, this one is just so strange and obviously false. He also says Ayuso should go to the Tour which is also probably not what he objectively believes. Like, would Visma select him right now, injured and all? Odd.
 
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I wasn't aware he helped to start it, so maybe he feels bad about it now? He is a true contrarian and I kinda like that. So much of cycling media are all too naive and conformist imo.

Almeida seem like quite the nice guy from all I can see. Also Yates, who seems calm and collected ,said that they were ready to launch but "one guy" wasn't in position, meaning Ayuso obviously. Everyone saw what happened that day.

Broe could say something like, Ayuso did good pulls on Galibier - the drama was overrated. But he actually makes a much stronger statement than that - he's looking back at the stage, and behold the public perception is completely wrong - they pulled the same amount.

Such a strange false narrative or misperception created by Broe. He likes to "fudge the numbers" sometimes, but mostly to support a narrative that is kinda true, but is not gaining public attention. However, this one is just so strange and obviously false. He also says Ayuso should go to the Tour which is also probably not what he objectively believes. Like, would Visma select him right now, injured and all? Odd.
It's funny how I never thought about the word "contrarian" to describe him as I am a compulsive contrarian myself, to the point I will rebel even against my own thoughts. (On this forum I am different as I am a noob)

Broe was off talking about Ayuso yesterday, that was obvious, but I couldn't tell in what way. I'm all animalistic intuition so I can tell when someone is off but not necessarily know why. Yesterday he was off combined with almost sensational eyes when talking about having rewatched that tdf stage.

You beat him at his own game by using stop watch on their turns! ⏲️

Either feeling guilty or having a fear of being exposed himself? I can't tell, but I don't get a feeling of strong integrity with him. It might be as easy as someone noticing similar things like I, and confronting him on it, leaving him in a defensive position. I don't know.

Like I said I don't expect strong integrity from him considering where he's at and also considering how he has deleted old pods etc.
I wasn't aware he helped to start it, so maybe he feels bad about it now? He is a true contrarian and I kinda like that. So much of cycling media are all too naive and conformist imo.

Almeida seem like quite the nice guy from all I can see. Also Yates, who seems calm and collected ,said that they were ready to launch but "one guy" wasn't in position, meaning Ayuso obviously. Everyone saw what happened that day.

Broe could say something like, Ayuso did good pulls on Galibier - the drama was overrated. But he actually makes a much stronger statement than that - he's looking back at the stage, and behold the public perception is completely wrong - they pulled the same amount.

Such a strange false narrative or misperception created by Broe. He likes to "fudge the numbers" sometimes, but mostly to support a narrative that is kinda true, but is not gaining public attention. However, this one is just so strange and obviously false. He also says Ayuso should go to the Tour which is also probably not what he objectively believes. Like, would Visma select him right now, injured and all? Odd.
Broe today on the podcast about Carapaz 2018: "I didn't watch cycling then".

No wonder all the self deprecating humour and persona trying to look cool; guy gotta suffer from severe imposter syndrome. I mean he is a DS after having watched cycling intensely for only 5 years.

Tbh he comes off as having lower self confidence than deserved, but it's insane he is a DS. He's just like all the other nerds taking over every sector of society. 😂

Obviously he was off yesterday. I don't know whether he was aware that he was off or not but it was absolutely weird.

Tbh I think he simply doesn't have enough time for a podcast anymore. 😁
 
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