The Podium Slam

[tobydawq]

Only 17 riders have been on the podium
In all three GTs. Obviously could have been more if the Veulta was at the end of year in the past

That didn't stop Giovanni Battaglin from winning both Vuelta and Giro in 1981. I think there were four days between the end of the Vuelta and the beginning of the Giro.

 

[Smachinho_]

Only 17 riders have been on the podium
In all three GTs. Obviously could have been more if the Veulta was at the end of year in the past

What strikes me most is that out of those 17 riders, 8 riders actually had the occasion to shake hands in the same pro peleton : Froome, Nibali, Contador, Quintana, Menchov, Evans, Valverde, Rodriguez.
Probably linked to the calendar change for the vuelta from 1995 though.

 

[Leinster]

What strikes me most is that out of those 17 riders, 8 riders actually had the occasion to shake hands in the same pro peleton : Froome, Nibali, Contador, Quintana, Menchov, Evans, Valverde, Rodriguez.
Probably linked to the calendar change for the vuelta from 1995 though.

Probably also linked to specialization. Froome, Contador, Quintana, Menchov never won monuments. Valverde and Purito have plenty of monuments, but only one GT victory between them. Cadel never won a monument, and only one GT. Only Nibali in the list has multiple monuments AND GT victories, whereas among the other 9, multiples in both was the rule.

VanSpringel only won Lombardia of the modern monuments, but 7 times Bordeaux-Paris would have had the same level of prestige in those days.

 

[Nirvana]

That didn't stop Giovanni Battaglin from winning both Vuelta and Giro in 1981. I think there were four days between the end of the Vuelta and the beginning of the Giro.

Two days of rest (if we can call so), the Vuelta ended the 10th of May and the Giro started the 13th. Four days were in 1973 when both were won by Merckx with the Vuelta ending the 13th of May and the Giro starting the 18th.

Anyway I think the problem was the prestige more than the calendar slot, for the first decades of his history the Vuelta was less prestigious than the Tour de Suisse and until 15/20 years ago was still the poor one among GTs, the move to September in the 90s surely has helped in perspective because now regularly attracts riders coming out of the Tour but the real boost (and the reason why there are so many riders of the 00s and 10s in the list) was the creation of the World Tour (then Pro Tour) that created an immediate internationalization of the startlists rescuing also the prestige of the Giro that was falling sharply between the 90s and the beginning of the 00s, if you look at the startlists of Vuelta and Giro in the years prior to 2005 they were largely a national affair with the majority of foreign riders probably being Italians at the Vuelta and Spaniards at the Giro.

 

[SHAD0W93]

1st, 1st, 1st - Froome
1st, 1st, 1st - Nibali
1st, 1st, 1st - Contador
1st, 1st, 1st - Hinault
1st, 1st, 1st - Merckx
1st, 1st, 1st - Anquetil
1st, 1st, 1st - Gimondi

1st, 1st, 2nd - Indurain
1st, 2nd, 1st - Rominger
1st, 2nd, 1st - Quintana
1st, 1st, 3rd - Fignon
1st, 3rd, 1st - Menchov
2nd, 3rd, 1st - Fuente
3rd, 1st, 3rd - Evans
3rd, 2nd, 1st - Roglic
3rd, 3rd, 1st - Valverde
2nd, 2nd, 3rd - Van Springel
2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Rodríguez

1st, 6th, 1st - Battaglin
7th, 1st, 1st - Delgado
1st, 1st, 9th - Nencini
4th, 1st, 2nd - Sastre
1st, 2nd, 4th - Basso
2nd, 4th, 1st - Olano
2nd, 5th, 1st - Aru
1st, 2nd, 6th - Dumoulin
1st, 7th, 2nd - Pollentier
6th, 3rd, 1st - Vinokourov
4th, 4th, 1st - Jalabert
4th, 5th, 1st - Lejarreta
5th, 5th, 1st - Heras
7th, 5th, 1st - Jesús Loroño
8th, 5th, 1st - Herrera
8th, 7th, 1st - Yates S
7th, 1st, 9th - Aimar
1st, 7th, 10th - Moser
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Millar
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Galdós
2nd, 2nd, 7th - Urán
4th, 2nd, 3rd - Géminiani
3rd, 4th, 2nd - Fornara
5th, 3rd, 2nd - Pérez Francés
6th, 3rd, 2nd - Leipheimer
2nd, 3rd, 7th - Breukink
8th, 3rd, 2nd - Escartin
3rd, 10th, 2nd - Fernández Blanco
4th, 2nd, 5th - Jiménez Muñoz
2nd, 6th, 7th - Casagrande
4th, 3rd, 4th - Kruijswijk
4th, 3rd, 5th - López Carril
4th, 3rd, 6th - Pinot
5th, 9th, 3rd - Zakarin

 

[gregrowlerson]

1st, 1st, 1st - Froome
1st, 1st, 1st - Nibali
1st, 1st, 1st - Contador
1st, 1st, 1st - Hinault
1st, 1st, 1st - Merckx
1st, 1st, 1st - Anquetil
1st, 1st, 1st - Gimondi

1st, 1st, 2nd - Indurain
1st, 2nd, 1st - Rominger
1st, 2nd, 1st - Quintana
1st, 1st, 3rd - Fignon
1st, 3rd, 1st - Menchov
2nd, 3rd, 1st - Fuente
3rd, 1st, 3rd - Evans
3rd, 2nd, 1st - Roglic
3rd, 3rd, 1st - Valverde
2nd, 2nd, 3rd - Van Springel
2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Rodríguez

1st, 6th, 1st - Battaglin
7th, 1st, 1st - Delgado
1st, 1st, 9th - Nencini
4th, 1st, 2nd - Sastre
1st, 2nd, 4th - Basso
2nd, 4th, 1st - Olano
2nd, 5th, 1st - Aru
1st, 2nd, 6th - Dumoulin
1st, 7th, 2nd - Pollentier
6th, 3rd, 1st - Vinokourov
4th, 4th, 1st - Jalabert
4th, 5th, 1st - Lejarreta
5th, 5th, 1st - Heras
7th, 5th, 1st - Jesús Loroño
8th, 5th, 1st - Herrera
8th, 7th, 1st - Yates S
7th, 1st, 9th - Aimar
1st, 7th, 10th - Moser
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Millar
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Galdós
2nd, 2nd, 7th - Urán
4th, 2nd, 3rd - Géminiani
3rd, 4th, 2nd - Fornara
5th, 3rd, 2nd - Pérez Francés
6th, 3rd, 2nd - Leipheimer
2nd, 3rd, 7th - Breukink
8th, 3rd, 2nd - Escartin
3rd, 10th, 2nd - Fernández Blanco
4th, 2nd, 5th - Jiménez Muñoz
2nd, 6th, 7th - Casagrande
4th, 3rd, 4th - Kruijswijk
4th, 3rd, 5th - López Carril
4th, 3rd, 6th - Pinot
5th, 9th, 3rd - Zakarin

Porte for the Vuelta in 2021 after a domestique role at the Tour; then he can join this illustrious list.

 

[SafeBet]

1st, 1st, 1st - Froome
1st, 1st, 1st - Nibali
1st, 1st, 1st - Contador
1st, 1st, 1st - Hinault
1st, 1st, 1st - Merckx
1st, 1st, 1st - Anquetil
1st, 1st, 1st - Gimondi

1st, 1st, 2nd - Indurain
1st, 2nd, 1st - Rominger
1st, 2nd, 1st - Quintana
1st, 1st, 3rd - Fignon
1st, 3rd, 1st - Menchov
2nd, 3rd, 1st - Fuente
3rd, 1st, 3rd - Evans
3rd, 2nd, 1st - Roglic
3rd, 3rd, 1st - Valverde
2nd, 2nd, 3rd - Van Springel
2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Rodríguez

1st, 6th, 1st - Battaglin
7th, 1st, 1st - Delgado
1st, 1st, 9th - Nencini
4th, 1st, 2nd - Sastre
1st, 2nd, 4th - Basso
2nd, 4th, 1st - Olano
2nd, 5th, 1st - Aru
1st, 2nd, 6th - Dumoulin
1st, 7th, 2nd - Pollentier
6th, 3rd, 1st - Vinokourov
4th, 4th, 1st - Jalabert
4th, 5th, 1st - Lejarreta
5th, 5th, 1st - Heras
7th, 5th, 1st - Jesús Loroño
8th, 5th, 1st - Herrera
8th, 7th, 1st - Yates S
7th, 1st, 9th - Aimar
1st, 7th, 10th - Moser
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Millar
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Galdós
2nd, 2nd, 7th - Urán
4th, 2nd, 3rd - Géminiani
3rd, 4th, 2nd - Fornara
5th, 3rd, 2nd - Pérez Francés
6th, 3rd, 2nd - Leipheimer
2nd, 3rd, 7th - Breukink
8th, 3rd, 2nd - Escartin
3rd, 10th, 2nd - Fernández Blanco
3rd, 6th, 3rd - Lopez M. A.
4th, 2nd, 5th - Jiménez Muñoz
2nd, 6th, 7th - Casagrande
4th, 3rd, 4th - Kruijswijk
4th, 3rd, 5th - López Carril
4th, 3rd, 6th - Pinot
5th, 9th, 3rd - Zakarin

 

[SafeBet]

I added Miguel Angel Lopez to the list.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I added Miguel Angel Lopez to the list.

Knew I was forgetting someone and couldn't figure out who.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Porte for the Vuelta in 2021 after a domestique role at the Tour; then he can join this illustrious list.

Porte for the treble next year.

 

[SafeBet]

New list.
Added Caruso, moved up Yates (now podium in 2 different GTs).

1st, 1st, 1st - Froome
1st, 1st, 1st - Nibali
1st, 1st, 1st - Contador
1st, 1st, 1st - Hinault
1st, 1st, 1st - Merckx
1st, 1st, 1st - Anquetil
1st, 1st, 1st - Gimondi

1st, 1st, 2nd - Indurain
1st, 2nd, 1st - Rominger
1st, 2nd, 1st - Quintana
1st, 1st, 3rd - Fignon
1st, 3rd, 1st - Menchov
2nd, 3rd, 1st - Fuente
3rd, 1st, 3rd - Evans
3rd, 2nd, 1st - Roglic
3rd, 3rd, 1st - Valverde
2nd, 2nd, 3rd - Van Springel
2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Rodríguez

1st, 6th, 1st - Battaglin
7th, 1st, 1st - Delgado
1st, 1st, 9th - Nencini
4th, 1st, 2nd - Sastre
1st, 2nd, 4th - Basso
2nd, 4th, 1st - Olano
2nd, 5th, 1st - Aru
1st, 2nd, 6th - Dumoulin
1st, 7th, 2nd - Pollentier
6th, 3rd, 1st - Vinokourov
3rd, 7th, 1st - Yates S
4th, 4th, 1st - Jalabert
4th, 5th, 1st - Lejarreta
5th, 5th, 1st - Heras
7th, 5th, 1st - Jesús Loroño
8th, 5th, 1st - Herrera
7th, 1st, 9th - Aimar
1st, 7th, 10th - Moser
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Millar
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Galdós
2nd, 2nd, 7th - Urán
4th, 2nd, 3rd - Géminiani
3rd, 4th, 2nd - Fornara
5th, 3rd, 2nd - Pérez Francés
6th, 3rd, 2nd - Leipheimer
2nd, 3rd, 7th - Breukink
8th, 3rd, 2nd - Escartin
3rd, 10th, 2nd - Fernández Blanco
3rd, 6th, 3rd - Lopez M. A.
4th, 2nd, 5th - Jiménez Muñoz
2nd, 6th, 7th - Casagrande
2nd, 10th, 9th - Caruso D.
4th, 3rd, 4th - Kruijswijk
4th, 3rd, 5th - López Carril
4th, 3rd, 6th - Pinot
5th, 9th, 3rd - Zakarin

 

[Roku]

Purito was a good rider but it is weird to see him on that second tier.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I remember when people said Simon was the classics and Adam was the GT rider.

 

[Red Rick]

Purito was a good rider but it is weird to see him on that second tier.

Is it? I could get behind him getting a Tour podium being very surprising considering his awful ITT, but at the same time he had a very high peak in 2012-2013 and I think people are deceived a little bit by him not getting close to winning a GT in 2014/2015.

He's probably the single most unlucky rider in terms of near misses/big wins ratio in the 21st century

 

[roundabout]

I think it's more of a comment that he is in the same tier as Indurain and Rominger, Fignon, Menchov and others who have multiple GT wins together with podiums in all 3 GTs

 

[Blanco]

Purito was a good rider but it is weird to see him on that second tier.

Why?

 

[RedheadDane]

I remember when people said Simon was the classics and Adam was the GT rider.

Maybe people got them mixed up... maybe INEOS got them mixed up. Maybe they signed Adam because they thought he's the GT rider.

 

[Breezy1985]

Maybe people got them mixed up... maybe INEOS got them mixed up. Maybe they signed Adam because they thought he's the GT rider.

Maybe they swap half way through a GT for the fresh legs

 

[will-10]

Purito was a good rider but it is weird to see him on that second tier.

Not really, I'm still not sure how he managed to not win one even now.

 

[Gigs_98]

I think it's more of a comment that he is in the same tier as Indurain and Rominger, Fignon, Menchov and others who have multiple GT wins together with podiums in all 3 GTs

Idk, him being in the same category as Indurain or Fignon might look weird but it's not like he completely stands out of that group. Sure, Menchov ended up winning two gt's but was he actually clearly a better rider? Purito really should have won both Giro and Vuelta in 2012 and he was climbing almost as good as Quintana in the third week of the 2013 Tour. He was pretty great at that time. Hell, I'd argue that in terms of riding for gc Purito's peak was higher than Valverde's.

 

[Mosul]

It looks like some of the names that were on page 1 of this thread have gone missing from the later updates to the list.
Ugrumov, Rumšas, Criquielion, Adorni, Gabica, Impanis, Van Looy and Muñóz Machín.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Maybe people got them mixed up... maybe INEOS got them mixed up. Maybe they signed Adam because they thought he's the GT rider.

Who knows, maybe. I just remember the tam was before Adam’s 4th place and it looked like it was right. Then Simon got a top 10 and he progressed towards GT and Adam towards classics and in my opinion Adam has the slight edge in week stage races. Their pcs points are very similar though Simon has more days raced.

Maybe they swap half way through a GT for the fresh legs

I brought this up awhile ago on how we would know if they or any other twin tried this. They ride for the GC of one and just take turns resting and riding hard.

 

[SafeBet]

List updated with the names missing from previous updates.
As always, , if you know of other riders who should be included just tell us.

1st, 1st, 1st - Froome
1st, 1st, 1st - Nibali
1st, 1st, 1st - Contador
1st, 1st, 1st - Hinault
1st, 1st, 1st - Merckx
1st, 1st, 1st - Anquetil
1st, 1st, 1st - Gimondi

1st, 1st, 2nd - Indurain
1st, 2nd, 1st - Rominger
1st, 2nd, 1st - Quintana
1st, 1st, 3rd - Fignon
1st, 3rd, 1st - Menchov
2nd, 3rd, 1st - Fuente
3rd, 2nd, 1st - Roglic
3rd, 1st, 3rd - Evans
3rd, 3rd, 1st - Valverde
2nd, 2nd, 3rd - Van Springel
2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Rodríguez

1st, 6th, 1st - Battaglin G.
7th, 1st, 1st - Delgado
1st, 1st, 9th - Nencini
4th, 1st, 2nd - Sastre
1st, 2nd, 4th - Basso
2nd, 4th, 1st - Olano
2nd, 5th, 1st - Aru
1st, 2nd, 6th - Dumoulin
1st, 7th, 2nd - Pollentier
6th, 3rd, 1st - Vinokourov
3rd, 7th, 1st - Yates S
4th, 4th, 1st - Jalabert
4th, 5th, 1st - Lejarreta
5th, 5th, 1st - Heras
7th, 5th, 1st - Jesús Loroño
8th, 5th, 1st - Herrera
1st, 10th, 5th - Adorni
8th, 7th, 1st - Gabica
7th, 1st, 9th - Aimar
1st, 7th, 10th - Moser
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Millar
2nd, 4th, 2nd - Galdós
2nd, 2nd, 7th - Urán
2nd, 2nd, 8th - Ugrumov
4th, 2nd, 3rd - Géminiani
3rd, 4th, 2nd - Fornara
5th, 3rd, 2nd - Pérez Francés
6th, 3rd, 2nd - Leipheimer
2nd, 3rd, 7th - Breukink
8th, 3rd, 2nd - Escartin
3rd, 10th, 2nd - Fernández Blanco
4th, 2nd, 5th - Jiménez Muñoz
2nd, 6th, 7th - Casagrande
10th, 8th, 2nd - Muñóz
2nd, 10th, 9th - Caruso D.
3rd, 6th, 3rd - Lopez M. A.
4th, 3rd, 4th - Kruijswijk
4th, 3rd, 5th - López Carril
4th, 3rd, 6th - Pinot
4th, 10th, 3rd - Van Looy
6th. 3rd, 5th - Rumsas
7th, 5th. 3rd - Criquielion
5th, 9th, 3rd - Zakarin
7th, 6th, 3rd - Impanis

 

[SHAD0W93]

The real question is, what two riders are getting striked out in order to move Nieve from 12th to 10th in the 2013 TdF and complete the ultimate prize of 10th in every GT and 5 in a row?

 

[Roku]

Regarding Purito, he was a very good cyclist, especially on steep climbs and hills, but IMHO he didn't have the overall ability to be part of an elite group of all-time GC specialist.