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Põhja Konn

Põhja Konn

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All's well that ends well! :D

Crazy scenario for a final, the French were piss poor for large majority of the game, being played off the park and generally seemed to lack both desire and ability to do something to turn the tide. Then got their lucky break and were suddenly back in the game. Between that goal and the end of normal time was the only period where French actually showed they wanted to win that final. After extra time started, they stopped playing again. And were again rather lucky to come back from behind. But the penalty shootout was brutally honest this time in it showing who really wanted and deserved the World Cup more.

E: Infantino clearly being booed when introduced before the award ceremony.:p
 
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Argentina dominated the 1st half and then tried to control their way to the finish line in the 2nd, they started getting too relaxed and comfortable and all of a sudden it was 2-2. The better team overall won. Not sure what the French were thinking for much of the regular 90 minutes, particularly the first half. No shot, not even off target???
 
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Libertine Seguros

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Well, it was more theatre than sport, but it was definitely the best final in my lifetime. At first I thought the ref was biased, but over the course of the game I don't think it was bias, just crap.

France have been the better team across the tournament on balance, but Argentina were clearly the better team across this particular match and deserved the win on the day.
 
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Tim Cahill

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Had to mute it after a while because you'd think there were only 2 players on the pitch, I thought Mac Allister and Fernandez in particular were excellent.

People seem to be increasingly defined by which individuals they attach themselves to. It's a team game lads.
 
Samu Cuenca

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It turned into a great game in the end, but a shame that most of the first 90 minutes looked like 2022 TdF Jumbo Visma against 2022 TdF B&B Hotels. And although they almost Rabofailed it with some questionable defensive actions, like we've seen from them during most of their knockout matches, they managed to grab the yellow trophy in the end.

It's nice to see Messi finally get the title, but some of the Argentine players have perhaps had a bit too much passion in their blood during this tournament and would possibly have been send home early from the 1994 World Cup or 1998 Tour de France.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
It turned into a great game in the end, but a shame that most of the first 90 minutes looked like 2022 TdF Jumbo Visma against 2022 TdF B&B Hotels. And although they almost Rabofailed it with some questionable defensive actions, like we've seen from them during most of their knockout matches, they managed to grab the yellow trophy in the end.

It's nice to see Messi finally get the title, but some of the Argentine players have had a bit too much passion in their blood during this tournament and would possibly have been send home from the 1994 World Cup or 1998 Tour de France.
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Too bad that red cards apparently got the red card before the tournament.

Just two were given in 64 matches. One to Wales' keeper who almost slaughtered an Iranian way outside the penalty area (which had to be corrected by VAR after a yellow card was initially awarded) and then one to Aboubakar from Cameroon after he celebrated with taking his shirt off in the 93rd minute after already having gotten one yellow card previously in the game.
 
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tobydawq said:
Too bad that red cards apparently got the red card before the tournament.

Just two were given in 64 matches. One to Wales' keeper who almost slaughtered an Iranian way outside the penalty area (which had to be corrected by VAR after a yellow card was initially awarded) and then one to Aboubakar from Cameroon after he celebrated with taking his shirt off in the 93rd minute after already having gotten one yellow card previously in the game.
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Dumfries also got one after the penalty shootout against Argentina, but I agree that it was crazy what some players and teams got away with at times.
And there was of course also the Moroccan player who almost spoiled his county's win over Portugal.
 
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Tim Cahill

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This was the real quiz anyway

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Tell you who wont be winning the highly prestigious fair play award any time soon.

Argentina. The dirty feckers.

No arrests either, have some of that!!!
 
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tobydawq said:
Too bad that red cards apparently got the red card before the tournament.

Just two were given in 64 matches. One to Wales' keeper who almost slaughtered an Iranian way outside the penalty area (which had to be corrected by VAR after a yellow card was initially awarded) and then one to Aboubakar from Cameroon after he celebrated with taking his shirt off in the 93rd minute after already having gotten one yellow card previously in the game.
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Definitely the number of reds has been artificially low, ostensibly I assume the aim is to try to make games flow and not create the kind of mess that the Argentina-Netherlands game became, but it's definitely not had the intended effect. The fact that even that Welsh red card was originally given as a yellow is just pure insanity, because if the referee didn't see it then he can't award a card, and if he did see it and didn't deem it red card-worthy (as would appear to be the case), then the only excuse can be that they've been specifically instructed to go soft on these because that was as blatant a red card foul as I've seen from a goalkeeper since Filip de Wilde tried to Superman punch one of the Turkey forwards in the head back in Euro 2000. The refs in this tournament would probably have given Roy Keane on Haaland's dad a yellow.

But as we've seen before, not setting a line for what is acceptable leads to games becoming a mess of niggling minor fouls continually, and leads to retribution and eye-for-an-eye nonsense, like Brazil-Colombia in 2014 where the referee's unwillingness to card any of the Brazilian defenders for kicking James Rodríguez into next week led to the Colombians coming out for the second half and kicking Neymar out of the World Cup, indirectly in part causing the 7-1 Germany defeat in the process.

I really don't understand how Otamendi doesn't get at least a yellow for the first French penalty today, for sure. If it's a penalty, he's the last man. Either the ref thinks he's clear through on goal (in which case it has to be a red) or he's too wide for it to be a clear goalscoring opportunity (in which case it has to be a yellow).
 
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