Teams & Riders The Red Bull - Bora - Hansgrohe team thread

[Red Rick]

Dani Felipe Martinez 2 minute leadouts will hit different this time.

 

[Links2003]

When everyone is in shape it is a very strong team for the Giro. Seems like the form of Martinez heads in the right direction after #7 in LBL.
Happy to see Pellizzari as a part of the team. I feel like Rogla will need him and Jai in the very high mountains.

Definitely. With three riders who have won or finished on the podium in recent years, you are automatically one of the best teams. If everyone in the team accepts that Roglic is the leader and is fully committed to it, then RBH probably has the best team at the start. 4 top mountain riders, Aleotti was also strong last year and also for the flatter sections.
Maybe it will help the team to have a clear leader. Sometimes it's easier for riders to reach their full potential when it's clear that it's really about winning.

 

[CyclistAbi]

This is indeed on how Red Bull will be judged in the 2025 season, their backbone is now stage racing orientated and this Giro edition is perfect for them to again take a step further, as team. At the end of last season one could already see the gradual but constant progress being made and i am sure that the plan is to add to that starting with the Giro.

 

[Links2003]

In Frankfurt, the team rode more aggressively, and the result with the riders on site was acceptable. In Romandie, Zwiehoff was very active, but the rest of the team was not visible. For Vlasov, this has been a very disappointing year so far.

Now comes the Giro, and the team looks good there. Most of the riders belong to those in good form this year. I don’t understand why Moscon is included—and once again, Wandahl is not allowed to participate in a Grand Tour. Before the season, one could have expected Moscon, as an Italian, to ride the Giro. However, he has shown no form at all so far. Additionally, I think he covers similar qualities to Denz and Tratnik. Does RBH expect to ride at the front almost the entire race?

If the selection was based on performance, he should not have been nominated. Furthermore, he is new to the team, so it’s hard to assess whether he can peak without having shown anything beforehand.

 

[Faserr]

I think Moscon was ok at riding for his leaders this year. Perhaps he coud have been a bit stronger. He is just really good at protecting his leaders. I think Wandahl is stronger when riding for his own his results and no the best team rider.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think Wandahl is stronger when riding for his own his results and no the best team rider.

Wandahl should do a bunch of the races that run parallel with the Giro, riding his own change so he can get a lot of points for me in the CQ game!

 

[MLKarlos]

I also think this unofficially ends Wandahls career at Red Bull. I think they promised him the Giro before the season

 

[Netserk]

I think it's a very good and well-rounded team, and Moscon as 8th spot and 3rd bodyguard can help mitigate the most important risk.

 

[Faserr]

I also think this unofficially ends Wandahls career at Red Bull. I think they promised him the Giro before the season

I think he needs a team where he can go for stages at a Grand Tours. At Red Bull he has to settle to a sole helper role at Grand Tours with Roglic and at this role there are riders who want to do this more at RB.

 

[RedheadDane]

Has the full team been announced yet?
I lost track after Hindley got announced. (Well, I went to bed, and haven't really checked since...)

 

[Netserk]

Has the full team been announced yet?
I lost track after Hindley got announced. (Well, I went to bed, and haven't really checked since...)

Only the provisional line-up.

 

[acm]

It's still not official that Moscon will race instead of Wandahl. I'll believe it when I see it. It would be a weird decision imo, Wandahl was racing Algarve and Catalunya with Roglič + he was at altitude with Giro team. Meanwhile Moscon did none of the above.

 

[MLKarlos]

Whats going on with Vlasov btw? Somehow he cant kickstart his season

 

[Links2003]

Whats going on with Vlasov btw? Somehow he cant kickstart his season

Vlasov's lack of form is very noticeable. But that affects many riders in the team, especially the new ones. Surely, there have been some changes in the coaching staff due to the frequent rider changes. This could explain why the training management might not work perfectly for new riders at the beginning. More surprising, however, is when it happens to riders who have been with the team for a longer time.

Does anyone know which rider trains with which coach? And whether there have also been changes among the riders who remained with the team?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Sadly Vlasov isn‘t from one of the big cycling countries otherwise there would be dozens of articles about his bad shape. This way we don‘t know anything.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sadly Vlasov isn‘t from one of the big cycling countries otherwise there would be dozens of articles about his bad shape. This way we don‘t know anything.

He's never had long hair like Karpets so I guess a haircut isn't to blame.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Has the full team been announced yet?
I lost track after Hindley got announced. (Well, I went to bed, and haven't really checked since...)

Up to this point Roglič, Hindley, Martínez and Tratnik are officially announced, four more spots open!

 

[CyclistAbi]

So Gianni Moscon and Nico Denz officially confirmed, only two spots left.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Vlasov's lack of form is very noticeable. But that affects many riders in the team, especially the new ones. Surely, there have been some changes in the coaching staff due to the frequent rider changes. This could explain why the training management might not work perfectly for new riders at the beginning. More surprising, however, is when it happens to riders who have been with the team for a longer time.

Does anyone know which rider trains with which coach? And whether there have also been changes among the riders who remained with the team?

Vlasov mentioned that he had some health problems this spring. He didn't give more specific details though

 

[Oldman]

This is indeed on how Red Bull will be judged in the 2025 season, their backbone is now stage racing orientated and this Giro edition is perfect for them to again take a step further, as team. At the end of last season one could already see the gradual but constant progress being made and i am sure that the plan is to add to that starting with the Giro.

If successful; it'll be the bridge for the younger guys to take over for Roglic as well.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If successful; it'll be the bridge for the younger guys to take over for Roglic as well.

Of course. Rogla already did it in the past, was a king at JV and helped develop younger generation, give them space once people reading spreadsheets and social media started hinting it's time. Now Rogla still wins GTs for Red Bull. There are no guarantees in this sport, the only guarantee one has if to perform good, till then there will be a team and a place for you in the peloton, and in our hearts.

Furthermore we discussed this in regards to Red Bull:

"Without Remco, there’s not much team left" - Patrick Lefevere disappointed by Soudal - Quick-Step's Spring performances

Long gone are the days where Soudal - Quick-Step would dominate the Spring Classics. In 2025, wins for Tim Merlier at Scheldeprijs and Remco Evenepoel at Brabantse Pijl were they only successes, leavi...

cyclinguptodate.com

Reality is for being considered an AAA team, you need to win GTs and once you have a star capable of achieving that on a consistent level, then forget about classics, other teams specialise in that.

Anyway, UAE is ready:

‘We are ready for the challenge’ - Juan Ayuso and Adam Yates lead UAE Team Emirates-XRG title defence at the Giro d’Italia

After dominating last year’s race with Tadej Pogačar can the Emirati team retain the maglia rosa in 2025?

www.cyclingnews.com

And so is Red Bull, lets get this race going! Or maybe indeed Red Bull should announce their complete roster first and then we are talking!

 

[Lequack]

Full Red Bull Bora lineup

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919437205195366422

View: https://x.com/RBH_ProCycling/status/1919437205195366422

 

[Berniece]

Full Red Bull Bora lineup

https://twitter.com/x/status/1919437205195366422

View: https://x.com/RBH_ProCycling/status/1919437205195366422

That’s a strong team if everyone is in shape. Probably stronger than their TDF team will be

 

[Oldman]

Definitely. With three riders who have won or finished on the podium in recent years, you are automatically one of the best teams. If everyone in the team accepts that Roglic is the leader and is fully committed to it, then RBH probably has the best team at the start. 4 top mountain riders, Aleotti was also strong last year and also for the flatter sections.
Maybe it will help the team to have a clear leader. Sometimes it's easier for riders to reach their full potential when it's clear that it's really about winning.

It's also much easier for them to go seriously deep on a support effort when they have no concern about overcommitting. That's been a serious advantage for Pogacar. UAE has the advantage when he's present as well.

 

[Filippo_3467]

It's also much easier for them to go seriously deep on a support effort when they have no concern about overcommitting. That's been a serious advantage for Pogacar. UAE has the advantage when he's present as well.

we'll see how far they will go. UAE has the stronger team but maybe not by much. That depends a bit on the form. Behind Martinez and Aleotti I would put a careful question mark if they can perfrom to their level of last year. On the other hand Vine and McNulty were really great in the perparation races. If Roglic has bad luck or isn't on his best level I wouldn't be surprised if UAE makes a re-run of the Jumbo-Visma Vuelta 23.