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according to current point ranking mauro schmid is better than jonas vingegaard
You cant compare that. I am also not saying that they will be ranked 2nd at the end of the season.

But the current Point ranking shows that they raced not too bad so far and therefore I cant really understand the critism
 
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You cant compare that. I am also not saying that they will be ranked 2nd at the end of the season.

But the current Point ranking shows that they raced not too bad so far and therefore I cant really understand the critism
i can compare that just as well as you can use their points to declare them the second best team

fwiw i dont think mauro schmid had a better start to the season than vingegaard
 
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i can compare that just as well as you can use their points to declare them the second best team

fwiw i dont think mauro schmid had a better start to the season than vingegaard
I dont think you can compare riders at this Point of the season because the Race days are so different (e.g Roglic had 9 Race days, Mauro Schmid had 19 so far. ) Therefore I think you cant compare them atm.

However top teams more or less Race the same amount of races. Therefore I think you can compare teams, even at this Point of the season
 
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I dont think you can compare riders at this Point of the season because the Race days are so different (e.g Roglic had 9 Race days, Mauro Schmid had 19 so far. ) Therefore I think you cant compare them atm.

However top teams more or less Race the same amount of races. Therefore I think you can compare teams, even at this Point of the season
vingegaard has had 15 race days , so no less comparable

uci points rewards farming , and is biased against spanish stage races ( down under and uae tour are both a higher category than catalunya and itzulia )

its an extremely bad measure , no one in their right mind would say that del toro had a better season last year than vingegaard
 
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we need to stop calling this team bora. This is 100% red bull now

remco's reveal that he is racing is 100% red bull marketing. Bora is merely serving out the remainder of the contract.
 
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Their head of performance, Dan Lorang, is leaving

He is not any more since October 2025. This position was taken over by John Wakefield and Dan resumed work as a coach and work with in the APC
 
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Potential to be the new peak Movistar. The Lipo-Roglic combination will have more enemies by the end of the year than King Joffrey if they continue like that. It's a shame that we'll probably never see a lethal Remco-Lipo-Roglic triumvirate. I would love to see them all spread out in different groups, Roglic wheelsucking everywhere, Lipo randomly attacking than smoothly refusing to pull right away while Remco angrily waves at opponents to work more. Would be absolute cinema.
 

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Potential to be the new peak Movistar. The Lipo-Roglic combination will have more enemies by the end of the year than King Joffrey if they continue like that. It's a shame that we'll probably never see a lethal Remco-Lipo-Roglic triumvirate. I would love to see them all spread out in different groups, Roglic wheelsucking everywhere, Lipo randomly attacking than smoothly refusing to pull right away while Remco angrily waves at opponents to work more. Would be absolute cinema.
This would be 100x more interesting to watch than those aliens who just rode away like it's nothing. ;)
 
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God, what a mediocre mentality.

Jorgenson managed to get on Del Toro's wheel at Tirreno-Adriatico, Del Toro was completely beatable in montain, and they didn't even try.
Today, with two riders, they delegated the entire chase to Del Toro, who clearly lacked the strength.
At Volta Catalunya they puted Remco as Vingegaard´s comestique like in Paris-Nice.
In Flanders, they were the team with the most riders and didn't even attempt a breakaway.

They're always the majority, but their approach to races is pathetic.
 
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He is not any more since October 2025. This position was taken over by John Wakefield and Dan resumed work as a coach and work with in the APC
they should have made him a better offer, by the look of it. Lorang is not the kind of person you would want to go elsewhere.
 

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