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The discussion is not over when others here keep bringing it up and say that it wasn't disrespectful. It was.
I don't mean anything personal, but you're kinda living up to your avatar on this one. As has been repeated, a bit of salt in the both makes the soup more flavorful. Why is that in this day and age people get so worked up over a bit of locker-room talk? I mean it's the way sportsmen have always spoken about competition. I find the virtue signaling intollerable. Let them speak their minds.
Sure. And like i said at the time, i would personally not have said the second part of his statement mentioning Vingegaard, it would have been implied by simply saying "sometimes it takes balls to race". But really, like i said in a part you didn't quote, it's just another way to describe a lack of guts. You can be offended by it, but that imho is a choice. The message was, he didn't ride gutsy. And the fact is, he didn't ride gutsy.
And I don't want to, so if the two of you want to have a discussion between yourselves about your response to a rider's choice of terminology, take it to PM.
I agree as you say in an other post that salt makes the soup more flavorful, and that Remco enlivens races. I agree with most of what you’re saying here. But if you take that out of the equation and just assess Remco’s behavior and comments, I fail to see how one could not see it as disrespectful. And I mean that both in the sense most here have referenced (insulting, which refers to the effect in the object of the disrespect) and the actual inherent lack of respect underlying the outward behavior. The first is annoying, as I don’t enjoy Remco insulting a rider I cheer for (and many feel that the push was an insult, including Marcel Kittel, the Lantern Rouge guys, etc.), but the second seems to me to be a sign of immaturity and/or poor strategic awareness. He should respect Roglic and Vingegaard because they are winners. Roglic in particular knows how to win even when he is not the strongest. Fully respecting them will enable him to better understand race situations and strategy IMO.
I appreciated your sentiment, but I don't think it was insulting, provocative yes, but to me it takes more than just talking smack in the context of the hardest sporting event in the world to equate offensive. Now boxers before the big fight hurl manifest insults at one another with disparaging intent.
If I were Oumi or Urška, I‘d start getting concerned.
With 2.5kg less, he'd climb significantly faster than Pogacar today, from a w/kg perspective assuming he retains his power. If he'd lose another 2.5kg, he would likely cross the fine border of where he would start to lose too much power for it to be an advantage anymore. And there's the risk of getting sick and more easily breaking bones in silly crashes.
He did too much in trying to bridge to Vingo and so he paid for it in the end. Its not about the lower gradients but the legs. He overdid himself a bit. Said he was boxed in when Vingo countered Pogi.
If he can make it to the finish without the one big 'crack', this will be a huge step for him for sure. Certainly the hardest week is yet to come but this Tour has been raced really hard and to this point he has looked very solid. Great riding so far and I'm really hoping he can keep this going.
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