That’s it - #1 was never on the cards, 3rd is highest possible to reach and he is on his way to. Big experiences for coming years, hope there’s no off day coming
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Well done Remco, starting to believe you one day can challenge for the tour win.
In the Dauphine he still lost over 1.5 minutes to Rodgriguez (et al.) on a similar climb. (Of course he was 2.5kg heavier then and said he only went all-in during the time trial there.) https://sporza.be/nl/matches/wielre...is-steviger-leider-in-dauphine~1694691727144/
For winning against Pog/Vin he'll probably need to lose another 2.5kg though...
For winning against Pog/Vin he'll probably need to lose another 2.5kg though...
Pog: I can see your ass.
Evenepoel: I would like to see yours more.
View: https://x.com/LeTour/status/1812150715176898741
Evenepoel: I would like to see yours more.
View: https://x.com/LeTour/status/1812150715176898741
If I were Oumi or Urška, I‘d start getting concerned.
With 2.5kg less, he'd climb significantly faster than Pogacar today, from a w/kg perspective assuming he retains his power. If he'd lose another 2.5kg, he would likely cross the fine border of where he would start to lose too much power for it to be an advantage anymore. And there's the risk of getting sick and more easily breaking bones in silly crashes.
I think if he really wants to bring the fight, 1 to 1.5kg below his presumed current weight (61.5) is where he'd need to be in order to do that and that would already be a huge boost. That would put him around 60kg, which was his weight in his first Giro.
I would have thought he could perform better when the last part of the climb flatten out. Didn't make any gains on Vinge here and he probably lost time to Rodriguez during this phase. as well. Big margin looking down, but lots can still happen imo.
I believe, like Snake wrote, he went a little in overdrive trying to catch Vingegaard. But, at least he tried and now he knows what to do next time.
He did too much in trying to bridge to Vingo and so he paid for it in the end. Its not about the lower gradients but the legs. He overdid himself a bit. Said he was boxed in when Vingo countered Pogi.
Tomorrow may be more telling, but one way to frame his performance thus far in this Tour is that his performance validates all the excitement and expectations folks had about him (and posted here) when he was coming out of the Jr. ranks. That he would be a one of a kind rider who wins classics, GTs, and time trials. But when folks were making those prognostications, no one knew the two-headed monster that is Pog-Ving would emerge as even better.
If he can make it to the finish without the one big 'crack', this will be a huge step for him for sure. Certainly the hardest week is yet to come but this Tour has been raced really hard and to this point he has looked very solid. Great riding so far and I'm really hoping he can keep this going.
I was wondering why he didn't react sooner, but apparently he was boxed in. For someone who has been kept in the front all day, it's not the first time this Tour he got boxed in and it cost him energy to close the gap. If he'd been on Vingegaard's wheel from the get go, he might not have lost time to him, or less.
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Aubisque wasn’t raced hard in the Vuelta last year either and he got dropped like a stone there. Improvement.
I'd say he didn't. It was good attack and reaction to the situation, it was good because he got rid from others first and then settled to his own effort, even if he had not balls today to stay with Jonas, mind you.
He still have a good chance to the 2nd in gc, if gaps stay something like this, but of course it depends.
I'm not at all sure if he could be much better if he took still some 2 kilos away because there's a tipping point that is different in every individual to a weight loss. He needs that super tt performance, I'm pretty sure he would get in trouble with that with too big weight loss. There is some to do in team power around him, little bit of downhill skills, tactical sense.
And he had to close a significant gap, not 2 meters. It was only 2k to the line, not 20. That extra effort when the others are already going all out might well have been the difference between being able to hang on or losing that much time. I assume you saw what happened to Roglic on stage 11. When he could no longer follow Vingegaard he lost time fast. That's generally what happens.
Also, i said "or less".
Yeah, that TT thing... it's not a thing. He would gain less time in the TT, who knows, might even lose some by losing extra weight. But 1kg is about a 30-60s difference every mountain stage. There is simply no scenario where the extra weight gains him more time in the TT than the losing that weight would in the mountains.
Otherwise i agree, losing 2.5kg is likely crossing the line where it no longer benefits him.
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If he survives the steep part (about 500 metres more or so), he's good. Exploding like that towards Vingegaards wheel instead of being right on it might very well have costed him those 31 seconds today.
What pace do you think they did there relative to the record on the climb or how it was ridden in the 2022 Tour?
Probably a bit closer to the record as you ask, but I don’t see what you’re trying to imply or what you want to get out of it.
Aubisque was not raced full gas, peloton was big with a lot of not-exceptional climbers in it and Remco got dropped there. And this stage has been used by people to say Remco can’t deal with multi col stages. So by that simple logic today can be used to say that he can deal with multi col stages.
If you think I was saying stuff like today proved that Remco is a master of though, hard mountain stages where every climb is raced hard or whatever, that’s nothing close to what I said.
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So far he is holding up his end of the bargain continue to impress still with a TT to come. Get in there Remco allez allez.
Even more importantly this will be his best GT performance to date and that looks very good for the years ahead. I loveeee it. And keep riding like you do its easy to cheer for a rider like that keep it up,
Even more importantly this will be his best GT performance to date and that looks very good for the years ahead. I loveeee it. And keep riding like you do its easy to cheer for a rider like that keep it up,
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So far it is his best to date. Don't get ahead of yourself. Lots of racing left.
the climb was not the same finish as the Armstrong/Hincape victories
This one took a new approach to Pla D'Adet instead of the traditional summit
This one took a new approach to Pla D'Adet instead of the traditional summit
Now, one thing I will say about this race, this really really needed to have 2 very long ITTs
We'd have a real 3-way race on our hands if we had 2 60km ITTs. Hope this slaps Gouvenou in the face to have a balanced route next year, not a flyweight fest
We'd have a real 3-way race on our hands if we had 2 60km ITTs. Hope this slaps Gouvenou in the face to have a balanced route next year, not a flyweight fest
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