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Did he say anything about the Olympic ITT? Strange that he is only the third biggest favourite according to the bookies.
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Many of the guys who did the tour last year struggled in Worlds ITT. Ganna and Tarling will be fresh. Course is flat and just 32.4 k.Did he say anything about the Olympic ITT? Strange that he is only the third biggest favourite according to the bookies.
Why wouldn’t this have been started in the press then?Don't worry, racing is and will be his focus. As mentioned before, Remco has signed months ago for another team. Patrick Lefèvre knows about it. I received this input before the spring classics. The only thing I don't know, is which team...
I have no idea. Maybe the press didn't know.Why wouldn’t this have been started in the press then?
Would surprise me even moreI have no idea. Maybe the press didn't know.
Could be. The original sponsor deal with both Soudal and Quickstep ends 31.12.2027 though. After the merger negotiations with Visma ended last year it was said that Zdenek Bakala would end his ownership after the 2025 season. I believe he owns 80% of the team and Patrick 20!? I dont have access to the accounting for Soudal-Quickstep for 2023, but i believe the main income (If not all?) for the team is from sponsors (Soudal,Quickstep,Spezialized etc) and not from the owners. Then it should be possible to continue the team after the 2025 season. I ofcourse agree that UAE,Visma,Ineos etc have stronger teams this year for the Tour, but with 2-3 strong signings Remco can win the Tour with SQS, so why change teams. The team did a hell of a job when he won the Vuelta, and he probably would have won the Giro last year with the same team had it not been for covid running rampant. For example this team for 2025 Tdf: Remco,Landa,Van Wilder,Paret-Paintre,Cattaneo,Eenkhoorn,Lampaert and Junior Lecerf. This would be a very strong and dedicated team that could compete in all terrains and then it will be up to Remco If he is good enough to winIt could be for 2026 Remco is signing, as Soudal and the majority team owner only agreed to continue through 2025
Look, I have received this info via a source very close to the family. I cannot say more.Would surprise me even more
OK, so you're saying a contract with another team has been signed, before the classics this season. Correct?Look, I have received this info via a source very close to the family. I cannot say more.
OK, so you're saying a contract with another team has been signed, before the classics this season. Correct?
I guess that leaves:
May I ask who you are that you have this information? Just trying to gauge how much stock to put into it–hopefully no offense taken, but this is an anonymous post on a message board. Happy to believe you have the access you say you do, but I think hard to assess that when the information seems like it will never be confirmed. If you have that access, I definitely appreciate you having shared what you already know.
- With what team
- For what time period
- For how much
- If there are other riders involved
If Team Remco® announces next year that they have signed a contract with another team for 2026, I guess that would surprise no one. If they announce this year for 2026, that would be more interesting. I doubt they'd ever announce that it was signed before the classics, so will that ever be confirmed? If they announce this year that he's signed for 2025, that would be a big announcement. Seems reasonable that it happened before the Tour.
I mean it sounds good that they have it sorted out already and there's no issue with Lefevre. That would be ideal. Just not sure how to react to such limited, anonymous claims.
Good point about it possibly making sense for Bora to bring in Remco not to ride with Roglic necessarily but to be the next star. As much as I am a Roglic fan, he can’t ride at the highest level forever. It’d be interesting seeing them ride a GT together, though. Even more patronizing pushes no doubt.I don’t get the Bora diss here…for me they are already a better GC Team then Ineos and with the signings they did, they will be even better in 2025. I really think there will be a Red Bull performance boost due to their performance center, aerodynamic performance experience etc.
I honestly think it’s the only team which makes sense for Remco, mainly because of Spezialized. Remco has a multi year deal with them. The only other WT Team with Spezialized…is RB Bora. Also Roglic just got a two year contract means he runs out of contract at the same time as Remco…and will be 35? 36?
I doubt that Ineos buys Remco out of his contract with Soudal and with Spezialized. In addition they have a multi year with Pinarello…it’s way too much dead money in my eyes.
UAE…will never happen…too many wunderkids and of course Pogi above them all
Visma hates Remco
Lidl? Don’t see a strong GT Team there. Not sure Remco is attracted by them.
Who else ? Bahrain? Ääääh no
Movistar? Nooope
I would be shocked if it is anyone else Red Bull
Late response, but I didn’t say Remco was responsible for Roglic crashing; I said I particularly don’t like Remco’s attitude toward Roglic, which was evidenced by words and actions before Roglic crashed out, given Roglic’s misfortune. I don’t hate Remco by any means - I actually think I am hoping he shocks Pogi and Vinge - but no one who has followed Remco and heard his comments after the stage that Roglic’s pulls were weak could interpret his push as anything but disrespectful.European here. How much is that in balls?
He had a sore on the other side of his lip three days ago. Check the interviews after the gravel stage. Maybe not completely innocent.
So, Evenepoel is responsible for Roglic crashing and what Pogacar says. Or what exactly did Evenepoel say that you take offense with.
....while I ponder tomorrow's stage...do we see a scenario where Vingo goes on the attack near the top (let's say with one or two kilometers left) and Tadej follows easily and Remco follows but with a little less push...then the two diminishing mutants mark each other, and Remco makes it almost all the way back at his pace a la Gerraint Thomas style? Rodriguez then comes up maybe a minute behind Remco...
p.s. too bad Roglic is not there any longer, since it would have been fun to watch him and Remco fight it out
It's a bit the boy who cried wolf. Roglic has sat one too many time in Evenepoel's wheel claiming he couldn't work or wasn't allowed by his team, either to attack him later on, or work against Evenepoel rather than for himself. Two days ago i think Roglic in fact was completely done, but you can't blame Evenepoel for getting fed up and thinking Roglic was once again playing games. He didn't have to push him and he didn't have to say Roglic wasn't working hard to the press (though i personally see no issue whatsoever with the latter, we all could see it) but i can perfectly understand his reaction.Late response, but I didn’t say Remco was responsible for Roglic crashing; I said I particularly don’t like Remco’s attitude toward Roglic, which was evidenced by words and actions before Roglic crashed out, given Roglic’s misfortune. I don’t hate Remco by any means - I actually think I am hoping he shocks Pogi and Vinge - but no one who has followed Remco and heard his comments after the stage that Roglic’s pulls were weak could interpret his push as anything but disrespectful.
I enjoy his directness and honesty, but at times he comes across as arrogant and disrespectful. Saying Vingegaard had no balls displayed a lack of judgement regarding strategy and Vingegaard’s form, and a lack of respect for a two-time Tour winner who just came back from terrible injuries. He similarly had issues with Roglic during Catalonia last year, and it seemed like he had trouble grasping the situation on the road. Remco lost the climb on La Port and this he had to attack Roglic to take the win back (he could not.)
He at times says very respectful things and no doubt feels respect to all of those riders at times and at others feels angry or contemptuous toward them; he’s only human like all of us.
Regarding Vingegaard, I’m not suggesting he treat him like a victim but rather that he treat him with respect, as in a rider who clearly knows what he’s doing. He’s proven repeatedly that he is not lacking in balls. Two stages later, the “no balls” comment seemed like a silly, unnecessary provocation that betrayed a misunderstanding, as I said, of where the two stand in the relative hierarchy.It's a bit the boy who cried wolf. Roglic has sat one too many time in Evenepoel's wheel claiming he couldn't work or wasn't allowed by his team, either to attack him later on, or work against Evenepoel rather than for himself. Two days ago i think Roglic in fact was completely done, but you can't blame Evenepoel for getting fed up and thinking Roglic was once again playing games. He didn't have to push him and he didn't have to say Roglic wasn't working hard to the press (though i personally see no issue whatsoever with the latter, we all could see it) but i can perfectly understand his reaction.
Regarding Vingegaard, if Vingegaard needs special consideration because he was in a crash, that is assuming he is still suffering from his crash. But nobody forced Vingegaard to race the TDF, least of all Evenepoel and Pogacar. If Vingegaard wasn't ready for it, he should have stayed away. But you can't expect your competitors to treat you like a poor victim while you are in fact there to win the race against them. All Evenepoel said was that Vingegaard should could have shown a bit more guts. He just chose to describe it rather graphically.
I personally feel Pogacar's attitude towards Roglic a lot more damning. Telling Evenepoel he shouldn't worry about Roglic (what for? Because he would crash out? Because he is washed? Because he is not in their league? Because he wants to manipulate Evenepoel into his bro-club for his own gain?) and the day later telling the press how sorry he is for Roglic to crash out and that he was getting stronger every day. That's a lot more two-faced and discrediting than anything Evenepoel has ever done.
Saying sometimes you have to ride with guts and saying Vingegaard didn't do that that day, imho is not really disrespectful, rather simply calling it like we all saw it. He could have his reasons not to ride, just like Evenepoel mentioned, and he might be the defending champion, but gutsy it was not. Plain and simple. So he was simply stating the facts and giving his opinion.Regarding Vingegaard, I’m not suggesting he treat him like a victim but rather that he treat him with respect, as in a rider who clearly knows what he’s doing. He’s proven repeatedly that he is not lacking in balls. Two stages later, the “no balls” comment seemed like a silly, unnecessary provocation that betrayed a misunderstanding, as I said, of where the two stand in the relative hierarchy.
Regarding Pogacar, no disagreement there. I posted elsewhere that Pogacar is a master manipulator, charming MVDP to gang up against Wout and get in his head, charming Roglic in 2020 to big brother him to victory, charming fans, now charming Remco with some tactical goal no doubt. That’s why I’d like Remco to surprise and surpass him. It’s be a nice reversal of 2020.
you nailed it!!!It's a bit the boy who cried wolf. Roglic has sat one too many time in Evenepoel's wheel claiming he couldn't work or wasn't allowed by his team, either to attack him later on, or work against Evenepoel rather than for himself. Two days ago i think Roglic in fact was completely done, but you can't blame Evenepoel for getting fed up and thinking Roglic was once again playing games. He didn't have to push him and he didn't have to say Roglic wasn't working hard to the press (though i personally see no issue whatsoever with the latter, we all could see it) but i can perfectly understand his reaction.
Regarding Vingegaard, if Vingegaard needs special consideration because he was in a crash, that is assuming he is still suffering from his crash. But nobody forced Vingegaard to race the TDF, least of all Evenepoel and Pogacar. If Vingegaard wasn't ready for it, he should have stayed away. But you can't expect your competitors to treat you like a poor victim while you are in fact there to win the race against them. All Evenepoel said was that Vingegaard should could have shown a bit more guts. He just chose to describe it rather graphically.
I personally feel Pogacar's attitude towards Roglic is a lot more damning. Telling Evenepoel he shouldn't worry about Roglic (what for? Because he would crash out? Because he is washed? Because he is not in their league? Because he wants to manipulate Evenepoel into his bro-club for his own gain?) and the day later telling the press how sorry he is for Roglic to crash out and that he was getting stronger every day. That's a lot more two-faced and discrediting than anything Evenepoel has ever done.
The strongest guys in the RR all had the Tour in their legs. I think WvA, Kung and Pog's bad ITT was due to the brutally hard RR race, not the TourMany of the guys who did the tour last year struggled in Worlds ITT. Ganna and Tarling will be fresh. Course is flat and just 32.4 k.
I don't agree. You cannot compare an ITT withthe RR. ITT is all about freshness, RR is about hardness.The strongest guys in the RR all had the Tour in their legs. I think WvA, Kung and Pog's bad ITT was due to the brutally hard RR race, not the Tour
I completely understand your question.OK, so you're saying a contract with another team has been signed, before the classics this season. Correct?
I guess that leaves:
May I ask who you are that you have this information? Just trying to gauge how much stock to put into it–hopefully no offense taken, but this is an anonymous post on a message board. Happy to believe you have the access you say you do, but I think hard to assess that when the information seems like it will never be confirmed. If you have that access, I definitely appreciate you having shared what you already know.
- With what team
- For what time period
- For how much
- If there are other riders involved
If Team Remco® announces next year that they have signed a contract with another team for 2026, I guess that would surprise no one. If they announce this year for 2026, that would be more interesting. I doubt they'd ever announce that it was signed before the classics, so will that ever be confirmed? If they announce this year that he's signed for 2025, that would be a big announcement. Seems reasonable that it happened before the Tour.
I mean it sounds good that they have it sorted out already and there's no issue with Lefevre. That would be ideal. Just not sure how to react to such limited, anonymous claims.
Man, I don't know if you were around in the 80s, but saying someone didn't have balls was nothing in comparison to the banter back then. I don't like this culture of over-sensitivity constructed to protect everyone from feeling insulted, because it's hypocritical and manipulative to dissuade people from speaking their minds. Let's just pretend cycling isn't a ruthless war and that riders are fragile crystal glasses. But this is all just part of the general Western neurosis of so-called safe space culture, an unnatural perversion intended to be free of bias, conflict, criticism, or potentially threatening actions, ideas, or conversations, with the result that everyone is overjoyed at the opportunity to be offended. The reality is that cycling, like life, is ruthless, so you'd better be able to roll with the punches. No, I rather enjoyed Remco's straight talk, which is so refreshing from the rather spineless and annoying pre-concocted play-nice drivel that has become the staple. I remember when Fignon called Lemond "excess baggage" and it was wonderful.Regarding Vingegaard, I’m not suggesting he treat him like a victim but rather that he treat him with respect, as in a rider who clearly knows what he’s doing. He’s proven repeatedly that he is not lacking in balls. Two stages later, the “no balls” comment seemed like a silly, unnecessary provocation that betrayed a misunderstanding, as I said, of where the two stand in the relative hierarchy.
Regarding Pogacar, no disagreement there. I posted elsewhere that Pogacar is a master manipulator, charming MVDP to gang up against Wout and get in his head, charming Roglic in 2020 to big brother him to victory, charming fans, now charming Remco with some tactical goal no doubt. That’s why I’d like Remco to surprise and surpass him. It’s be a nice reversal of 2020.