Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[SHAD0W93]

I was only gone for 3 days.
Really, the people that were really punished were you guys, who had to live without my lame jokes for 3 days.

So what you’re saying is you weren’t being a productive member of this forum coming up with new jokes while away?

 

[houtdffan]

VIDEO: Primoz Roglic's crashes at Tour de France but receives same time as Evenepoel; Pogacar comments on him to Evenepoel

Primoz Roglic has gone through it all in this Tour d

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wow! Pog with a zinger to Remco regardingRog

After the finish Pogacar and Evenepoel talked together and likely one of the yellow jersey's remarks was regarding his own compatriot. "You shouldn't be afraid of him" Pogacar told Evenepoel, the topic likely being Roglic who is looking to attack the Belgian's podium position.

 

[Le Grand Doop]

I was only gone for 3 days.
Really, the people that were really punished were you guys, who had to live without my lame jokes for 3 days.

we were horribly punished by missing your logic.

I didn't know you also made jokes. I will have to pay closer attention. ;-)

 

[Le Grand Doop]

VIDEO: Primoz Roglic's crashes at Tour de France but receives same time as Evenepoel; Pogacar comments on him to Evenepoel

Primoz Roglic has gone through it all in this Tour d

cyclinguptodate.com

wow! Pog with a zinger to Remco regardingRog

After the finish Pogacar and Evenepoel talked together and likely one of the yellow jersey's remarks was regarding his own compatriot. "You shouldn't be afraid of him" Pogacar told Evenepoel, the topic likely being Roglic who is looking to attack the Belgian's podium position.

hmm. I saw that too, it is really unclear who he was speaking about. we, as the authority on all cycling facts, should not be adding fire to a conspiracy theory. that is simply not the terrain of the internet.

 

[scribers]

He wasn’t wrong (about Roglic)

 

[Venge 82]

Damn, there goes Remco's podium spot. Lefevre will go bananas, belgian press also, and Remco will lose focus.

Remco signed for another team months ago. Patrick Lefèvre knows about it. This is not new. I don't know which team, but Red Bull was always my first thought (Specialized).

 

[James M]

Good team for Remco. Red Bull will be stacked next year with the new signings. Second best team on paper behind UAE next year surely?

"A deal between Remco Evenepoel and Red Bull- BORA - hansgrohe imminent" according to reports

Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic have gone head to

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[Logic-is-your-friend]

Good team for Remco. Red Bull will be stacked next year with the new signings. Second best team on paper behind UAE next year surely?

"A deal between Remco Evenepoel and Red Bull- BORA - hansgrohe imminent" according to reports

Remco Evenepoel and Primoz Roglic have gone head to

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I haven't really been blown away by the level of Roglic, Hindley, Vlasov, or the rest of Bora so far this year. Doesn't seem to me like they are anywere close to UAE or even Visma (who until this week didn't look too hot either).

 

[James M]

I haven't really been blown away by the level of Roglic, Hindley, Vlasov, or the rest of Bora so far this year. Doesn't seem to me like they are anywere close to UAE or even Visma (who until this week didn't look too hot either).

Pithie, Lazkano inc. Sobrero and jungels solid who shouldnt be underestimated. Also Vlasov was pretty impressive in dauphine? Haller solid horse. Def a uppgrade for me and next year second behind Uae. Also they have Schachmann which is good but seem to struggle to get back into his best maybe? And Daniel martinez is also good. Strong team.

Jumbo decent but top heavy with alot of their best ageing which dosent help them either.

I say clear uppgrade and good team for Remco, also they have deep pockets so expect more A riders to come. Think they will be second best team come next year.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Pithie, Lazkano. Sobrero and jungels solid who shouldnt be underestimated. Also Vlasov was pretty impressive in dauphine? Haller solid horse. Def a uppgrade for me and next year second behind Uae. Jumbo decent but top heavy with alot of their best ageing which dosent help them either.

I say clear uppgrade and good team for Remco, also they have deep pockets so expect more to A riders to come.

Landa was better than the best Bora dom so far. The team they had at Paris Nice looked great on paper but got blown away in the TTT.
Imho, not much of an upgrade other than more money, hence potential.

 

[Scarponi]

I know that you were joking. however, that is never possible. remco does not have that body type -- never will.

he needs a return to the 120 kms of ITT of the Indurain years, so that he can just defend in the mountains with a team orchestrating a consistent power output and therefore only losing a bit on the acceleration at the top of each MTF. A return to longer flat stages would help him too -- helping to wear out the emaciated climbers' legs.

The problem with the 120km TT today is that it’s not Indurain vs Pantani. Remco is unlucky to be in the same era that the other GC players are crazy strong. If peak Pog and Jonas went ballistic chasing a 120km TT route Remco would lose 15 minutes

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

If peak Pog and Jonas went ballistic chasing a 120km TT route Remco would lose 15 minutes

Sure thing.

 

[Scarponi]

Sure thing.

You don’t think two riders who would be chasing 2.5 minutes (providing its flat TT) who in the past Tour De France races attacked anywhere from 10km to 60km out over the three weeks could not take 15 minutes on an unproven elite grand tour rider? Jonas the same rider took almost ten minutes on Pogacar but they couldn’t take 15 minutes on Remco who has zero pedigree ! Delusion is your friend

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

You don’t think two riders who would be chasing 2.5 minutes (providing its flat TT) who in the past Tour De France races attacked anywhere from 10km to 60km out over the three weeks could not take 15 minutes on an unproven elite grand tour rider? Jonas the same rider took almost ten minutes on Pogacar but they couldn’t take 15 minutes on Remco who has zero pedigree ! Delusion is your friend

Oh, you mean if they were in the best shape of their lives and Evenepoel far from it. Then sure. Otherwise

Tour de France 2022 Stage 21 results

Jonas Vingegaard is the winner of Tour de France 2022, before Tadej PogaÄar and Geraint Thomas. Jasper Philipsen is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Scarponi]

Oh, you mean if they were in the best shape of their lives and Evenepoel far from it. Then sure. Otherwise

Tour de France 2022 Stage 21 results

Jonas Vingegaard is the winner of Tour de France 2022, before Tadej PogaÄar and Geraint Thomas. Jasper Philipsen is the winner of the final stage.

www.procyclingstats.com

Yea Pog not on the double and Jonas not almost dying .
If they were behind 3 minutes on Remco with 120km TT. That would be the greatest cycling race ever. Especially if Remco obviously improves as a climber next two years. We would be blessed to see it

 

[Froome]

I was only gone for 3 days.
Really, the people that were really punished were you guys, who had to live without my lame jokes for 3 days.

A lot happened since you were banned. Suddenly Vingegaard can win stages of 200 km! I hope you will be banned on sunday again!

P.s-( I think the stage of plateau de beille is 197 and not 200 km, but whatever).

 

[Taxus4a]

The problem with the 120km TT today is that it’s not Indurain vs Pantani. Remco is unlucky to be in the same era that the other GC players are crazy strong. If peak Pog and Jonas went ballistic chasing a 120km TT route Remco would lose 15 minutes

When my englosh I dont knoe if I understand what you mean, but with the routes of Indurain. Remco would be the favourite with a decent team for the mountains.

He is very good at the flat, he has endurance, he has won Lieje with a super attack for far.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Yea Pog not on the double and Jonas not almost dying .
If they were behind 3 minutes on Remco with 120km TT. That would be the greatest cycling race ever. Especially if Remco obviously improves as a climber next two years. We would be blessed to see it

So in 2022 they were what? Riding on steel bikes?

A lot happened since you were banned. Suddenly Vingegaard can win stages of 200 km! I hope you will be banned on sunday again!

P.s-( I think the stage of plateau de beille is 197 and not 200 km, but whatever).

I noticed. His first 200km+ win.

 

[Scarponi]

When my englosh I dont knoe if I understand what you mean, but with the routes of Indurain. Remco would be the favourite with a decent team for the mountains.

He is very good at the flat, he has endurance, he has won Lieje with a super attack for far.

You think 2022-3 pog and Jonas wouldn’t drop Remco by 2-3 minutes each hard stage . Please

 

[Froome]

When my englosh I dont knoe if I understand what you mean, but with the routes of Indurain. Remco would be the favourite with a decent team for the mountains.

He is very good at the flat, he has endurance, he has won Lieje with a super attack for far.

Pogacar and Vingegaard can also do good time trials.

They don’t do time trials like Pantani.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

You think 2022-3 pog and Jonas wouldn’t drop Remco by 2-3 minutes each hard stage . Please

Again, please. In 2022 a 95 year old finished 7 minutes from Vinge and 5 from Pog. What happened? 16 minutes down were Meintjes etc.

 

[Taxus4a]

Pogacar and Vingegaard can also do good time trials.

They don’t do time trials like Pantani.

Yes, and Remco can climb quite well, he is not like Ganna.

 

[Froome]

Yes, and Remco can climb quite well, he is not like Ganna.

Obviously not, Remco is the third/fourth best climber in the world, but the gap is significant for Pogacar and Vingegaard. Remco said yesterday, that they are in another league.

They can put minutes on everybody in one single mountain stage.

 

[Le Grand Doop]

I haven't really been blown away by the level of Roglic, Hindley, Vlasov, or the rest of Bora so far this year. Doesn't seem to me like they are anywere close to UAE or even Visma (who until this week didn't look too hot either).

do we really want Remco being managed by someone like Dr. Gianetti and UAE?

I will take Bora. And Specialized.

 

[Le Grand Doop]

They don’t do time trials like Pantani.

pantani did an amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing (read: in-credible) TT when he had to at the end of the 1998 TDF -- but we know how that happened.