Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Wvv]

Evenepoel and Van Aert attended the Belgian late night Olympics talkshow after their medal race yesterday evening. The atmosphere was really fun, with lots of laughter and jokes among them.

Best moment was when Remco shouted "midget" at the race images, and when host Vannieuwkerke asked clarification he responded with "I'm small" in an almost surprised way. When said he was on the top step of the podium, he reacted with "Fortunately, or you couldn't see me in the picture!"

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[Blanco]

When Remco gets the gold August 3rd he will be the only cyclist with two golds in the two most important Olympic cycling events. If he wins the worlds and some Italian classic can he still get velo d'or?

He can't get Velo even he wins every damn race he participates till the end of the year!

 

[mrgmyers]

Did you use ChatGPT to write this?

Why do you ask?

 

[mrgmyers]

Yes.

I did indeed why is that illegal or does it offend you?

 

[tobydawq]

On Sunday evening after having had dinner and on my way to my hotel room, I was walking along the Promenade des Anglais. At some point there was a couple walking just beside me with no other people around.

The woman was, shall we say, rather eye-catching and after a few seconds it hit me that I thought I'd seen her before. And indeed, when I looked again, sure enough, clad in jeans and a nice white shirt was no other than Remco.

I must say I became quite starstruck but I did manage to say congratulations and give him the thumbs up to which he gave me a thank you in reply. After that, we continued the stroll for a couple of minutes (me walking slightly in front of them) - still no other people nearby - until they reached their destination and I was on my own again. I kicked myself a little that I didn't ask for a photo but I wouldn't want to be that guy to disturb a rare quiet moment too much.

I am sure, however, that the experience propelled Remco to get the gold yesterday!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

You know, he was lucky Ganna and Tarling didn't ride the Tour now that that has been proven to be the best preparation.

Spoiler: Spoiler

For GC no less! Ganna already making plans, Pogi better watch his back.

More mental then physically. They prepared for this race, but not the rain. That nullified the advantage they had and threw it open. Riding the wet corners almost to a standstill still favored lighter Remco vs the heavy frames of Ganna and tarling.

Is this based on any sort of scientific evidence or are you making assumptions? I have not thought about this before, but i would think since they are all riding with the same wheel size and tire thickness, that more force pushing down on the same small contact surface means better grip, not less. It would also be a strange conclusion after the women's race, where there were a lot more crashes. Unless the women are all fat and/or incompetent.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Father, son and uncle:

Plot twist: they're standing on the podium in this photo.

So that's why Remco was shouting midget during the talkshow...

 

[Valv.Piti]

On Sunday evening after having had dinner and on my way to my hotel room, I was walking along the Promenade des Anglais. At some point there was a couple walking just beside me with no other people around.

The woman was, shall we say, rather eye-catching and after a few seconds it hit me that I thought I'd seen her before. And indeed, when I looked again, sure enough, clad in jeans and a nice white shirt was no other than Remco.

I must say I became quite starstruck but I did manage to say congratulations and give him the thumbs up to which he gave me a thank you in reply. After that, we continued the stroll for a couple of minutes (me walking slightly in front of them) - still no other people nearby - until they reached their destination and I was on my own again. I kicked myself a little that I didn't ask for a photo but I wouldn't want to be that guy to disturb a rare quiet moment too much.

I am sure, however, that the experience propelled Remco to get the gold yesterday!

Surely you're mostly regretting not getting a picture with Oumi?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Surely you're mostly regretting not getting a picture with Oumi?

In case such a scenario ever unfolds, just walk up to her and address her, hey, aren't you the wife of that famous cyclist? Can i get a picture with you? While completely ignoring him as if he weren't there.

 

[tobydawq]

In case such a scenario ever unfolds, just walk up to her and address her, hey, aren't you the wife of that famous cyclist? Can i get a picture with you? While completely ignoring him as if he weren't there.

That didn't feel like the way to go in the moment.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That didn't feel like the way to go in the moment.

Yeah, ignoring both was the better move.

 

[tobydawq]

Yeah, ignoring both was the better move.

I don't think it ruined their night that I said congratulations.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I don't think it ruined their night that I said congratulations.

Sorry, misread. I thought you had peed your pants and DIDN'T even say congratulations. Ignore my previous post.

 

[KZD]

He's won six of the eight possible titles now. Only the Olympic RR and the European RR are still missing. I don't think anyone else scores higher than four (Olano has four). Of course this wasn't possible in the past, but it's an achievement that won't soon be equaled.

While Pogačar is making history in Grand Tours and monuments, Remco is making history in major Championship events.

If we look just at Olympic and Worlds, which are the two that really matter, Cancellara is the most successful rider with two Olympic ITT golds and four World ITT golds. There is a good chance that Remco overtakes him as he has already one gold in each ITT event and also the World RR gold which is something that Cancellara never manage to get despite several attempts.

 

[scribers]

When Remco gets the gold August 3rd he will be the only cyclist with two golds in the two most important Olympic cycling events. If he wins the worlds and some Italian classic can he still get velo d'or?

Remco is hitting his season form peak now. Calling it now he will not be nearly as competitive in late sept/oct

 

[scribers]

Only Hour record is missing.

And chronos

 

[scribers]

I

I don't think it ruined their night that I said congratulations.

“Congratulations on losing your baby fat, fatco!”

 

[kingjr]

Why do you ask?

To see if I guessed correctly.

 

[stekelegel]

For GC no less! Ganna already making plans, Pogi better watch his back.


Is this based on any sort of scientific evidence or are you making assumptions? I have not thought about this before, but i would think since they are all riding with the same wheel size and tire thickness, that more force pushing down on the same small contact surface means better grip, not less. It would also be a strange conclusion after the women's race, where there were a lot more crashes. Unless the women are all fat and/or incompetent.

Think Pogacar, not only keeping up the speed during cornering, but incredible explosive accelaration after to get up to top speed asap. Remco and Van Aert looked quicker in that fase, and because the corners where being taking at very low speeds because of the rain, the quicker accelaration gave them a bigger edge. And Tarling and Ganna have to get 80 kg or more moving again vs 60 kg for Remco.
Before the rain, it looked like a battle of the big gears (68 for tarling, ganna and van aert) and brute force. Something Remco did not have ideal preparation with the Tdf.
With the woman you saw some basic cycling errors, like Digert pushing way to hard left in the first fase of a left corner.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Think Pogacar, not only keeping up the speed during cornering, but incredible explosive accelaration after to get up to top speed asap. Remco and Van Aert looked quicker in that fase, and because the corners where being taking at very low speeds because of the rain, the quicker accelaration gave them a bigger edge. And Tarling and Ganna have to get 80 kg or more moving again vs 60 kg for Remco.
Before the rain, it looked like a battle of the big gears (68 for tarling, ganna and van aert) and brute force. Something Remco did not have ideal preparation with the Tdf.
With the woman you saw some basic cycling errors, like Digert pushing way to hard left in the first fase of a left corner.

Ganna has won bunch sprints. Tarling's sprint at the line seemed punchy enough. Stop conjuring excuses.

 

[Netserk]

Sprint is not the same as acceleration. Contador could accelerate but not sprint. Evans could sprint but not accelerate. Rogla accelerates better than Evenepoel, and the order is reversed for sprinting.

Ganna is at the extreme, much better sprint than acceleration.

 

[Valanga]

This must be the first time someone claiming Remco won because of his superior bike handling and fast acceleration...

 

[Oldermanish]

This must be the first time someone claiming Remco won because of his superior bike handling and fast acceleration...

Watching him he was much improved on line selection. Once you've got that down the acceleration can come off momentum saving spin in lower gears. Maintaining that through a corner allows a better "feel" for traction than just arching a wet corner without pedaling; especially in some of those huge gears. You can feel the gradual loss of traction and adjust weighting accordingly. The higher your seat above the bottom bracket the more leverage you have to apply to a turn; that's not an advantage on wet pavement. A shorter rider simply can be closer to the point of traction. You'd also adjust air pressure lower for optimal grip and a lighter rider can do that without as much puncture risk. Very small elements add up but the rider has to know how to handle the bike. That's usually more with your butt on the saddle than directing the bike with the bars.

Think riding a motocross bike in sand and cornering as an extreme example. You use the rear of the bike to direct the turn, the front for braking into the turn with little braking on exit. Same with a GS turn in skiing.

That course was super narrow at points which would make it tough to set up cornering and exiting a turn. Not much opportunity to drift a turn or correct a minor miscalculation without slowing dramatically. WvA had to slow dramatically several times which could also be the downside of riding a rigid front disc on braking. Ganna almost ate the metal barriers on the edge on the straighaway.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Surreal discussion.

I wonder how many riders exist that are good at bunchsprints, that would be at a significant disadvantage accelerating from 25 to 60kmh after a corner when compared to someone like Evenepoel , to the extent that they lost 15s over perhaps 10 corners. My guess is zero.

 

[Red Rick]

Surreal discussion.

I wonder how many riders exist that are good at bunchsprints, that would be at a significant disadvantage accelerating from 25 to 60kmh after a corner when compared to someone like Evenepoel , to the extent that they lost 15s over perhaps 10 corners. My guess is zero.

Not really.

When we're talking Van Aert and Van der Poel, everyone agrees Van der Poel is better at 30s interval reps while Van Aert is the faster sprinter.