Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[James M]

Remco's TT is pure art. Awesome win champ!

 

[Venge 82]

Will I be suspended from the forum if admit I had tears in my eyes 🤔

 

[Coffeeplanter]

Basically all the cards that were going to determine the winner were stacked against him, yet he did. I truly believe an impeccable double gold is in the works.

 

[Salvarani]

Said this was the biggest goal and he did it!

 

[Netserk]

Basically all the cards that were going to determine the winner were stacked against him, yet he did. I truly believe an impeccable double gold is in the works.

Might need the aid of teenage girls again.

 

[Anderis]

I think he is the first rider to win all of the above:
- a GT
- a monument
- WC gold medal
- Olympic gold medal

 

[Didinho]

It’s not about cornering at very low speed in the rain. About cornering at high speed in downhills. Totally different.

 

[Netserk]

I think he is the first rider to win all of the above:
- a GT
- a monument
- WC gold medal
- Olympic gold medal

Yeah, I think so too. Kuiper, Indurain, Ullrich, Vino and Rogla are all somewhat close.

 

[Anderis]

I think he is the first rider to win all of the above:
- a GT
- a monument
- WC gold medal
- Olympic gold medal

All of the below I should have said.

 

[tobydawq]

Yeah, I think so too. Kuiper, Indurain, Ullrich, Vino and Rogla are all somewhat close.

At some point they called Tour de Suisse the 4th Grand Tour so by that token, Cancellara was close too

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Only Hour record is missing.

With his CdA and monster endurance engine, he would completely demolish Ganna's record. If he really went for it, it could be a distance to stand for a long time.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepoel and Van Aert.

 

[Berflamand]

Time Trials? Yeah, completed it mate!

Brilliant ride Ket! I expected a medal but not the gold one, this is absolutely great!

Now let's go for a double gold in the road race. Then only the European RR (where he already got second) will be left to have won every possible title I think.

 

[Red Rick]

With his CdA and monster endurance engine, he would completely demolish Ganna's record. If he really went for it, it could be a distance to stand for a long time.

Ganna set that after he got like 7th in the ITT at the Worlds in Australia. I'm confident Ganna himself could smash it too, I just don't think it's that fast at the moment.

I wish they'd both try, I'm curious how much the lack of track experience would cost Evenepoel or if it wouldn't matter that much.

 

[Berflamand]

Evenepoel and Van Aert.

The King of Belgium and a fan in a grey suit.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ganna set that after he got like 7th in the ITT at the Worlds in Australia. I'm confident Ganna himself could smash it too, I just don't think it's that fast at the moment.

I wish they'd both try, I'm curious how much the lack of track experience would cost Evenepoel or if it wouldn't matter that much.

I meant to say even if Ganna tried again, it wouldn't really matter. I honestly don't think it would be close if both went in fully prepared and in shape. Evenepoel has the better CdA, more relative watts, cornering is not an issue and he is a superior endurance athlete to top it all off.

 

[Red Rick]

I meant to say even if Ganna tried again, it wouldn't really matter. I honestly don't think it would be close if both went in fully prepared and in shape. Evenepoel has the better CdA, more relative watts, cornering is not an issue and he is a superior endurance athlete to top it all off.

Evenepoels most dominant ITTs have famously been in the 20-35 km range. They had 55 minute one last year and the gap was like 12 seconds.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

As others, I definitely would like Remco to go for an hour record. He would have a good chance of beating it but I definitely don't think there's an abyss between him and Ganna in 50+ km efforts.

 

[Valv.Piti]

For fantasy purposes, I'd like to throw this Evenepoel in the Cap d' Couverte TT in 2003 and see how he would stack up against Ullrich and Armstrong on a hot as *** day, undulating and long TT course in the middle of a GT

 

[kingjr]

Evenepoels most dominant ITTs have famously been in the 20-35 km range. They had 55 minute one last year and the gap was like 12 seconds.

Ganna once said that he prefers both prologue-type and long ITTs over medium distance.

 

[Red Rick]

I think there's also this weird conflation of saying doing well in monuments equates to being greatly favored in hour long ITTs. They're actually about different physiological traits and I'd argue that some of the best monument style racers that also had good ITTs tended to actually do better in shorter TTs, while there's also a number of hyperspecialist long ITTers that never did anything in monuments.

 

[chickenlips]

get to altitude, NOW!!!!

NO aliens in the road race. Not going to be as meaningful as the worlds when Pog is present.

Go flex at the Vuelta like Pog did at the giro, then go sweep the worlds and steal the velo d'oro from Pog

FFS

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepoels most dominant ITTs have famously been in the 20-35 km range. They had 55 minute one last year and the gap was like 12 seconds.

This is like how you kept repeating for 2 or 3 years, that Evenepoel couldn't ride away from the competition or expand his lead uphill, right?

They also had a 65 minute TT back in 2019 and Evenepoel was 46s faster. How many long solos has Ganna completed successfully, if you think Ganna is even remotely close as an endurance athlete? A world hour record is 1 hour continuously putting force on the pedals, there is no room to let the legs rest in a descend, or in a technical section or ahead of a corner. It's non-stop pedalling and much harder than a regular long TT for exactly that reason. The biggest advantage Ganna has on Evenepoel, is that he is less clumsy in technical sections, and that advantage goes up in smoke here.

There simply are hardly any long TT's on the calendar left to make such claims as that they wouldn't suit Evenepoel. Other than the occasional WCC, only Chrono des Nations is left, which is held at the end of the season, and is not a goal for anybody. If you want to use those to make your case, chances are you'll end up sorely disappointed. That would be a bit like using San Sebastian to prove Pogacar doesn't do well in hilly classics.

Look at their H2H, and keep in mind what happened in 2020 with Evenepoel struggling during his comeback throughout 2021. It's the only year Ganna managed to beat Evenepoel consistently.

I think there's also this weird conflation of saying doing well in monuments equates to being greatly favored in hour long ITTs. They're actually about different physiological traits and I'd argue that some of the best monument style racers that also had good ITTs tended to actually do better in shorter TTs, while there's also a number of hyperspecialist long ITTers that never did anything in monuments.

This argument goes out the window with Evenepoel, his traits are the base for both his long range solos as well as his TT dominance.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Father, son and uncle:

 

[Bolder]

Father, son and uncle:

Skinny Remco ftw.