What the frick is going on. Either this is total bs or Red Bull are *** desperate for Remco (which is understandable, but cmon, Roglic just won a GT).
who knows
I never knew there could be trades like in US sports
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What the frick is going on. Either this is total bs or Red Bull are *** desperate for Remco (which is understandable, but cmon, Roglic just won a GT).
Two Yankee (baseball) pitchers famously traded wives back in the hip ‘70’swho knows
I never knew there could be trades like in US sports
Plus Remco looked to be better than Roglic at this year's TDF. Remco appears to be getting better. Is Roglic? It was a great Vuelta win by Roglic this year, but if Remco, Pogi or Vingo are there, does he win? Probably not. Furthermore, the TDF is still the big dog. At least from the sponsors view, the tour is probably worth at least 5 vueltas (or giros). Just how it is.Remco is 24 years old. Roglic is almost 35, Redbull is doing the right thing
Why would he do that? He won the Olympic ITT doing his normal thing...just like Remco. It's OK to not know things.Didn’t know Roglic also trained for WC ITT and specifically changed his weight and build to perform against the likes of Ganna and WVA, to then ride the Vuelta
Honestly, and I like all of these riders; after the races they've done I don't think any of them would've beaten him in this Vuelta. IMO if he hadn't crashed out of the Tour he would've finished on the podium. Leave it to you who steps down to fourth.Plus Remco looked to be better than Roglic at this year's TDF. Remco appears to be getting better. Is Roglic? It was a great Vuelta win by Roglic this year, but if Remco, Pogi or Vingo are there, does he win? Probably not. Furthermore, the TDF is still the big dog. At least from the sponsors view, the tour is probably worth at least 5 vueltas (or giros). Just how it is.
He didn't give the impression early on in the TdF that he would have finished on the podium. Also, the timegap between third and fourth was 10 minutes and not 3 minutes.Honestly, and I like all of these riders; after the races they've done I don't think any of them would've beaten him in this Vuelta. IMO if he hadn't crashed out of the Tour he would've finished on the podium. Leave it to you who steps down to fourth.
Apparently Roglic performend his best ever this Vuelta, so there is some room to grow for him. But there's way more room to grow for Evenepoel. I don't expect it to be close next year if both of them are in top form.Plus Remco looked to be better than Roglic at this year's TDF. Remco appears to be getting better. Is Roglic? It was a great Vuelta win by Roglic this year, but if Remco, Pogi or Vingo are there, does he win? Probably not. Furthermore, the TDF is still the big dog. At least from the sponsors view, the tour is probably worth at least 5 vueltas (or giros). Just how it is.
I think Vingegaard showed he needed a break as well, with a meagre showing in Pologne and after that simply calling it the end of the season.As for Roglic beating remco/pogi/jonas on this year vuelta had they shown up?
Evenepoel - yes, i believe remco needed a break and would not have been able to maintain his form throughout this year vuelta.
Vingegaard - no. Vingegaard was growing again by the end of this TdF. Followed a different programme than remco and would have enough in the tank.
Pogacar - i'd like to think he needed a break as well after Giro-Tour double. But really this guy on another level this year. Can't bet against him.
So no i do not think Roglic wins this year vuelta if 2 out of 3 of the others of the Big 4 showed up.
who were the pitchers, if I may ask?Two Yankee (baseball) pitchers famously traded wives back in the hip ‘70’s![]()
What is so special about it? You can call it a trade, but legally it would likely just be teams buying out the contract of the other rider under mutual agreement.who knows
I never knew there could be trades like in US sports
Mike Kekich was one, I forget the other. Easy to Google plenty of news articles about it. Seems weirder in retrospect that they didn’t try to hide, the same press covered it. And both couples already had kids!who were the pitchers, if I may ask?
For the next few years Remco can't win the Tour unless he beats Roglic (amongst others).I wish we could save the "would Roglic beat Remco" to the Roglic thread. I mean really, who cares.
The goal for Remco is winning the TdF, not beating Roglic.
You don't say.For the next few years Remco can't win the Tour unless he beats Roglic (amongst others).
That’s the best team they could have selected based on current circumstances.Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Laurens De Plus, Quinten Hermans, Jasper Stuyven, Maxim Van Gils, Tim Wellens.
No De Lie/Nys
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He was one steep stage out of the podium and, as we just saw; got better as the race got more challenging. He was 3rd in the TT and a minute from 2nd place at that point.He didn't give the impression early on in the TdF that he would have finished on the podium. Also, the timegap between third and fourth was 10 minutes and not 3 minutes.
maybe the whole thing was the wives' ideaMike Kekich was one, I forget the other. Easy to Google plenty of news articles about it. Seems weirder in retrospect that they didn’t try to hide, the same press covered it. And both couples already had kids!
Same could be said for Pogacar then? Maybe we get a random winner who rode in the VueltaRemco could win the time trial on one leg given the circumstances of the 'opposition', but I cannot imagine that short period of time that he had after hitting the Tour de France decompression will be enough to give gold in the road race much of a legit shot. In that regard, I am expecting more in Lombardia than I would in Zurich.
Going from decompression to super level again in about a month seems rather impossible to me.
There is not a single person in Belgium who expected otherwise... Nys is aiming for CX and De Lie isn't a match with that parcours.Remco Evenepoel, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Laurens De Plus, Quinten Hermans, Jasper Stuyven, Maxim Van Gils, Tim Wellens.
No De Lie/Nys
How so? Pogacar didn't race after the Tour. Evenepoel raced the Olympics, so that is 2 extra weeks, and the WCC ITT isn't a goal for Pogacar, so that gives him an extra week as well. That means between TDF and WCC, Pog gets 3 extra weeks.Same could be said for Pogacar then? Maybe we get a random winner who rode in the Vuelta
I disagree.That’s the best team they could have selected based on current circumstances.
Pogacar probably hit his decompression whilst the majority of the peloton were still maintaining their peak/supercompensation for the Olympics. He should be a few weeks ahead of schedule in rebuilding compared to the rest. It doesn't sound like much on paper, but when one has to start from what is basically 0 again, it is quite a lot.Same could be said for Pogacar then? Maybe we get a random winner who rode in the Vuelta