Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Berflamand]

Evenepoel. His own assessments of races he loses rarely cease to amaze me

It amazes me how much negativity you can find in an - at least in my opinion - very levelheaded interview.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Well I would stop if he just stopped saying things like "I could have dropped Ppgacar but chose not to" referring to a stage where Pogacar cleaned him off the wheel earlier.

That is not level headed. That is the opposite

But that’s not at all what he’s saying if Bernice has posted the right translation?

“When I eventually rode away from Pogacar and Vingegaard and saw they weren't following that was a new situation for me and I panicked a little. I couldn't decide at that point if I should ride all out or keep some reserves. More could have been possible that day. If I find myself in that situation next year, I know I just have to give it my all.”

This isn’t at all the same as you propose. He’s talking about the kilometers he was alone ahead of them that he probably could’ve ridden faster, not that he could’ve dropped Pogacar earlier??

 

[Berflamand]

Well I would stop if he just stopped saying things like "I could have dropped Ppgacar but chose not to" referring to a stage where Pogacar cleaned him off the wheel earlier.

That is not level headed. That is the opposite

That is also not even close to what he actually said. I really don't even understand how you can twist words that much to come to such a conclusion.

 

[Berflamand]

But that’s not at all what he’s saying if Bernice has posted the right translation?


This isn’t at all the same as you propose. He’s talking about the kilometers he was alone ahead of them that he probably could’ve ridden faster, not that he could’ve dropped Pogacar earlier??

It is the right translation. To be sure I just listened to the actual interview where the quotes are coming from and he never said or implied that he could have dropped Pogacar.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

It's basically the same level of stupidity. You have a gap and it's 2km to go and you're telling me you were half assing it? Please.

Perhaps, but it's still a complete different scenario he's describing than the scenario you were creating.

 

[Berniece]

It's basically the same level of stupidity. You have a gap and it's 2km to go and you're telling me you were half assing it? Please.

Evenepoel pretty consistently tries to act like he's a stronger rider than he is by acting like he doesn't understand the sport he's a professional in at the level of a 3 year old.

Consistently? Do you have more examples? Because this one isn’t it. If you remember the race, you can even see him doubting and not going all out

 

[AmRacer]

Consistently? Do you have more examples? Because this one isn’t it. If you remember the race, you can even see him doubting and not going all out

Pog and/or Jonas?

 

[Berniece]

Pog and/or Jonas?

Pog didn’t follow deliberately to put Jonas in a tough position. I have no doubt he could’ve followed.

I meant that you can see Evenepoel not going completely all out.

 

[Berflamand]

I guess the kid will never not have haters if this is the level of scrutiny that is being used to pull a harmless interview completely out of context.

 

[AmRacer]

Pog didn’t follow deliberately to put Jonas in a tough position. I have no doubt he could’ve followed.

I meant that you can see Evenepoel not going completely all out.

So none of them went full gas then.

 

[Oldermanish]

But that’s not at all what he’s saying if Bernice has posted the right translation?


This isn’t at all the same as you propose. He’s talking about the kilometers he was alone ahead of them that he probably could’ve ridden faster, not that he could’ve dropped Pogacar earlier??

It seems to express that fear of attempting a move that can be followed by minutes of loss when those two decide to get it on. Not an unnatural response when you find yourself off the front with opponents you think are stronger. Seems like he's being honest about his confidence and maybe learned from it.

 

[Berniece]

So none of them went full gas then.

Vingegaard did

 

[Berniece]

I am actually the one placing it in context and assessing it for what it actually implies. And if what it implies sounds ludicrous then I am not the one who said it.

If I'm gonna be generous I'll say he didn't think his words through very much, in which case that wouldn't be the first time.

You are making incorrect assumptions about his implications

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I am actually the one placing it in context and assessing it for what it actually implies. And if what it implies sounds ludicrous then I am not the one who said it.

If you had worded yourself correctly from the start and not been writing "Well I would stop if he just stopped saying things like "I could have dropped Pogacar but chose not to" referring to a stage where Pogacar cleaned him off the wheel earlier." which obviousely is a false translation of what he actually said I dont think anyone would've had a problem with what you wrote.

 

[Peyroteo94]

How to not love Remco and his diehard fans? I'm again getting hyped about his 2025 season, waiting for him to win the Tour, dropping Pogi and Vingegaard!

 

[Berniece]

How to not love Remco and his diehard fans? I'm again getting hyped about his 2025 season, waiting for him to win the Tour, dropping Pogi and Vingegaard!

No one said that

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

How to not love Remco and his diehard fans? I'm again getting hyped about his 2025 season, waiting for him to win the Tour, dropping Pogi and Vingegaard!

Nice trolling

 

[Berniece]

Nice trolling

It’s alright, he’s probably still insecure about Evenepoel being able to earn 10M at Bora while Pogacar only earns a measly 8M at UAE

 

[Wvv]

Haters, trollers and out-of-context pullers annoy me dearly.

In any thread. But this is one is the pinnacle.

 

[Berniece]

Not bothered at all. I like seeing riders getting paid more and more. Cycling is brutal and it's nice to see this sport growing and getting more popular. The only thing I said was Bora is overpaying him because they are desperate to have one of the Big 6 in the future (Roglic is getting old).

I was joking

 

[Berniece]

That beeing said its cope and fans should know better it just put em into a bad light as not sincere/objective imo. Evenepoel did good why not leave it at that he is a young fantastic talent still in cycling terms historically at 24 years old in GT perspective thats young historically. No need to make it out to be anything else. Two guys are better than him it shoudlnt be anything anyone even debate at the moment in a GT even..

No one is saying otherwise, it’s just that people don’t see saying: “during stage 17 when i had a gap I didn’t went all out because I didn’t prepare or expect that to happen”, as coping.

 

[AmRacer]

Nice trolling

Troll troll

 

[Berniece]

Started training again for 2025. Would be good if we can finally get an official Giro route announced, so we can more easily speculate about his calendar.

https://imgur.com/AuzctsX

 

[KoopaCycling]

As it happened i was on youtube, when 'Remco perche ti amo came up. Would be nice if 2025 is the year this song can be played during the final podium of the giro.

Also i like the Mamba mentality comment. Although it don't fully translate to his own personality. He has the work ethic, but i don't think he will ever think of his competition as enemies to overcome.

 

[Berniece]

As it happened i was on youtube, when 'Remco perche ti amo came up. Would be nice if 2025 is the year this song can be played during the final podium of the giro.

Also i like the Mamba mentality comment. Although it don't fully translate to his own personality. He has the work ethic, but i don't think he will ever think of his competition as enemies to overcome.

No indeed, cycling isn’t that cut throat anymore. It’s not really a contact sport, or a sport influenced by taunting like Basketball.