Paul Seixas: Tour de France Winner 2031

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Yea a rider that is only 22 years old that has already won the UAE Tour, Emilia, Piemonte, Torino, Burgos, Austria. And who has already had top-3 results in the Giro, Strade Bianche as well as good results in the World Championship, Lombardy and San Sebastian is surely overrated. 😂
Yes. Absolutely. 100%.

Someone can be really good and still overrated. Check the dictionary
 
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I just went to that forum, read the last three pages, and I couldn't find any such post, just a couple wondering if Isaac let him get the second place in a classy act, due to all the work that Paul had done...more were lamenting that we never got to see how it unfolded.

In any case, now we know for sure, if there was any doubt: Paul Seixas is the real deal. Pressure will only increase to have him race in July,. There's a lot of money at stake for the organization. A podium seems possible, but in the grand scheme of things, I would wait another year and go for the whole thing. By then, Teddy may not be as strong: right now, he's unstoppable.
Why?
 
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Clickbait? Can’t get onto paywall remover on this phone .

 
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Why is he overrated in your opinion?
Because way too many people belive he lost the Giro because he just couldnt be arsed to pull rather than him being on the limit like the previous big climbs in that Giro

Aside from that, I think he is hugely explosive and that leads to him looking great until he explodes in big races
 
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Because way too many people belive he lost the Giro because he just couldnt be arsed to pull rather than him being on the limit like the previous big climbs in that Giro

Aside from that, I think he is hugely explosive and that leads to him looking great until he explodes in big races
Who are all those people and why is it such a big issue for you? You might be right in what you are saying, but life is also full of onions. Getting that mad about other peoples opinions is not good. It seems like that is your biggest pet peeve.

And I dont think people "overrate" him by saying or thinking he is one of the better riders in peloton atm. He keeps racking up wins and great performances in big races, as of now.
 
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Feeling sorry for Del Toro. This kid has taken his mantle. Doesn't turn 20 until late September.
What mantle? Didnt know Del Toro had one.

Both are two great talents with a seemingly bright future.

If anything, someone like Remco is the one that should look over his shoulder. Vinge and Pog wont be around forever. However, his window of opportunity feels like it is decreasing with these new kids on the block.
 
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lets imagine the team now believes he will be ready to go for gc in the tour this year with a chance of a good result

say they doubt kooij ( and benoot ) will be at the top of his game , so they go all in . gall and lund still lead the team in the giro

id go with
-seixas
-riccitello
-prodhomme
-app
-muhlberger
-lapeira
-labrosse
-hoole

just to illustrate that they could plausibly field pretty decent support for a minor contender

it was asked in the transfer thread if there had been any rumours of future transfers . as i said there , i see an armirail shaped hole

but as i dont see gall interested in extending as a helper , i definitely think itd be prudent to go for some reliable help in the mountains when looking ahead
 
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lets imagine the team now believes he will be ready to go for gc in the tour this year with a chance of a good result

say they doubt kooij ( and benoot ) will be at the top of his game , so they go all in . gall and lund still lead the team in the giro

id go with
-seixas
-riccitello
-prodhomme
-app
-muhlberger
-lapeira
-labrosse
-hoole

just to illustrate that they could plausibly field pretty decent support for a minor contender

it was asked in the transfer thread if there had been any rumours of future transfers . as i said there , i see an armirail shaped hole

but as i dont see gall interested in extending as a helper , i definitely think itd be prudent to go for some reliable help in the mountains when looking ahead
I would consider Scotson for the Tour team as well.
 
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The way I see it, Del Toro sits somewhere in between Purito and Valverde in terms of rider profile. The problem for him is that you need more of an engine and not quite as much explosivity in the climby classics these days compared to their heyday, and in GTs he is going to have similar issues stemming from the biggest mountain stages. So there's a good chance that Del Toro completely fulfilling his potential just means he winds up with a rather Van Aert-esque palmares and an alien-free Vuelta as his biggest career win.
 
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Clickbait? Can’t get onto paywall remover on this phone .

CMA CGM (co-sponsor until 2030) is led by Rodolphe Saadé, one of the most influential and wealthy individuals in France. When he announced that sponsorship in July 2025, guess who was with him in the photos? Paul Seixas.
View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DMX-f5ONOSy/


They won't let him go. They can't afford to.
 
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Does anybody know any reliable source of Seixas' weight? (maybe his own words) Apparently he's 184 cm tall. PCS lists him at 64 kg while wiki at 59 kg (this must be a mistake). Even 64 kg means he's extremely light for his size.
 
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Does anybody know any reliable source of Seixas' weight? (maybe his own words) Apparently he's 184 cm tall. PCS lists him at 64 kg while wiki at 59 kg (this must be a mistake). Even 64 kg means he's extremely light for his size.
I could believe that he was 59kg a few years ago as a junior perhaps but now it would mean that he would be basically the same weight as Vingegaard but 9 cm taller. I think 64 kg is much more plausible.
 
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Who's building the hype? The French media is. They are completely nuts over him.
He had an article in the New York Times after Dauphiné, and another one after Algarve. Not exactly French media.
Reading newspapers from different countries, I get the impression that the hype is pretty widespread. Everyone wants to hear the story of a kid who will one day defeat the invincible ogre.
 

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