Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[kingjr]

Who is abandony? And why are you so bitter?

I'm going out on a limb and say it's Andy Schleck.

 

[Red Rick]

Who is abandony? And why are you so bitter?

Andy Schleck.

Meanwhile I'm not entirely sure what's either funny or offensive about Bambi. It's just kinda lame to me.

 

[RedheadDane]

Absolutely nothing wrong with calling a rider "Bambi"! Bambi is cute.

 

[Gregor_Slovenia]

When Remco will be his old Remco, he can be competitive also for triumph on Vuelta, of course. When the shape and power is there, he will be great also on steep climbs. But maybe that will just not be this year

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

When Remco will be his old Remco, he can be competitive also for triumph on Vuelta, of course. When the shape and power is there, he will be great also on steep climbs. But maybe that will just not be this year

Him being gone for so long, has basically pushed anticipation over the limit, and that's what happened here. He was flying before his crash, and suddenly his fans have to wait for months and months. When the moment finally arrives, and the first week is going so much better than feared, you start to dream against better judgement. Especially after stage 6, where he was the only one comfortably following Bernal, a fan starts to dream. Had he finished 35th in the ITT, lost 5 minutes in the first 2 uphill finishes, it would have been a different story.

Again, months of anticipation combined with good first week results made us dream. In Dutch there is a saying "The wish is the father of (the) thought".

Next up, Olympics. This Giro will in any case have helped lowering expectations.

Absolutely nothing wrong with calling a rider "Bambi"! Bambi is cute.

Yeah, i'm sure that's how he meant it

Sounds like the same kind of whining Abandony fans did when he earned his nickname. And who dared call Armstrong anything other than his name or Big Tex, I mean they ought to show some reverence.

lol, you're the only one calling him that. But again, eventually, if needs be by the time he retires, it'll catch on.

 

[Lequack]

The pressure should be less now for future races, which can also be good.
I think he should rather do some one day and week long races again before just rushing into another GT like the Vuelta. Do well in those races and gain confidence and race miles. There is plenty of time for GTs at his age.

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[Lefebre]

Can anyone tell me if Remco has arrived yet?
Uncle Pat is worried...

 

[Sciatic]

His numbers were indeed good. He was protected at the start. Not like this means anything. Having two protected riders for a team that is not expected to carry the race isn't an issue and they pick the one who fares the best.
That Remco numbers were good is what we saw in the 1st week, problem wasn't his numbers,but keeping them after multiple race days. And like De Cauwer mentions in that article:

Somtimes we pretend/assume we can measure and know everything, but the reaction after a heavy fall and 9 months without races is not something that is measurable.

Not measurable, okay, but also not unpredictable.

 

[Bardamu]

where does the nickname Bambi come from?

 

[groogster]

The fact he made it to top10 now is because he helped and could go in the break. Otherwise he would have lost more than just a minute today. (seeing he wasn't really that good at all today).

What a lot of nonsense in so few words...

So according to you, a guy that went on a breakaway for 100k that finished 6th with Carthy and Ciccone wasn't really good!

As far as I seen it he was amazing! You can ask Formolo and Nibali about it, because they were on the breakaway with Almeida and couldn't cope with the pace after being caught by the GC guys!
From the breakaway the only rider that could cope with the GC guys after being caught was Almeida, Bernal went by him, Bardet and Caruso also, no one else could!
he spent much more energy than the guys of the GC in that breakaway, after being caught he really performed very well indeed
So in my book, and in anyone's book for that matter he was very good today
The way he paced himself after Formolo, Pedrero and Nibali leaved him was beautiful... He was at his own pace and slowly catches them, one at a time, simply beautiful!

 

[Flurk1982]

Whatever the end result will be in this giro, it doestn't say anything about his abilty of a GC contender. This giro is used as learning experience and preparation for his first goal of the season : the olympic games.

 

[Oldermanish]

Lol. Well there's pharmstrong.

You mean Oedipus Tex?

 

[Andre]

Oedipus? Did you mean Sisyphus?

 

[arquipelagoGulag]

Tbh I think part of considering Evenepoel a favorite was also people not expecting Bernal to show up like this.

Simple, remove Bernal from the accounts and this little one continues 26 minutes from the leader.

 

[Parker]

Oedipus? Did you mean Sisyphus?

No Oedipus. It was noted that his first wife looked a lot like his mother

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Simple, remove Bernal from the accounts and this little one continues 26 minutes from the leader.

Did you laugh last year when van der Poel finished 10 minutes down to van Aert, in Strade Bianche, a one day race?
Did you laugh this year when van der Poel won?

 

[The Hegelian]

Whatever the end result will be in this giro, it doestn't say anything about his abilty of a GC contender. This giro is used as learning experience and preparation for his first goal of the season : the olympic games.

Sorry, it clearly does.

We waited for the evidence - 'what about into the back half of the race, in serious mountains'? That was a question mark on his GC ability, always was.

In fact it's charitable to say that this has not been answered somewhat; to leave it still as an open question.

He can only answer this question with his legs. And we have to leave open the possibility that he may never be able to do so.

 

[Bonimenier]

Sorry, it clearly does.

We waited for the evidence - 'what about into the back half of the race, in serious mountains'? That was a question mark on his GC ability, always was.

In fact it's charitable to say that this has not been answered somewhat; to leave it still as an open question.

He can only answer this question with his legs. And we have to leave open the possibility that he may never do so.

Are you agreeing and disagreeing with Flurk in the same post?

 

[The Hegelian]

Are you agreeing and disagreeing with Flurk in the same post?

It is a bit logically confusing! Apologies.

I am assuming Flurk is saying: "his ability as a GT rider still remains in tact, despite what happened on stage 16."

And I am saying in response: "his ability as a GT rider was never a given in the first instance, it still remains an open question."

 

[Bonimenier]

It is a bit logically confusing! Apologies.

I am assuming Flurk is saying: "his ability as a GT rider still remains in tact, despite what happened on stage 16."

And I am saying in response: "his ability as a GT rider was never a given in the first instance, it still remains an open question."

Ah okay. I guess I just interpreted Flurk's post differently.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Likely a stage win is what Evenepoel could still go after on this Giro edition. The rest will likely be directed toward gaining experience. And have some fun.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Likely a stage win is what Evenepoel could still go after on this Giro edition. The rest will likely be directed toward gaining experience. And have some fun.

Honestly, i'm not seeing it. I don't buy that he'll win the ITT. It's flat and only 30k, and his form is clearly on the decline. I think the only realistic chance he has at a stagewin is stage 18, if he goes in the break and has just enough left in the tank to finish it on the little climbs.

 

[GuntherL1]

Honestly, i'm not seeing it. I don't buy that he'll win the ITT. It's flat and only 30k, and his form is clearly on the decline. I think the only realistic chance he has at a stagewin is stage 18, if he goes in the break and has just enough left in the tank to finish it on the little climbs.

I agree. An ITT is the most honest measure of form there is.
Then again, Lefevere suggested that he wasn't worn out after stage 16.
I don't know whether you can recover by taking it relatively easy during a couple of days.

 

[Sandisfan]

It's different case with those two. At least they didn't have to fight against their own teams.

It occurred to me today after reading somewhere after the fact a day or two after the stage, where Almeida lots those minutes early, is that Almeida said he bonked that is forgot to eat early enough. I can't say for certain that is what happened but it is a good explanation for his early time loss on that stage. If that is the case often DS's will make sure to remind young riders, some try to even remind veteran riders, to feed. With the divided attention to both riders it could have been the DS's fault for not telling Almeida to feed. I don't think they would have deliberately done that to put Remco (Bambi somewhat unfair Nickname) as the sole leader but if they didn't do it deliberately (that is if they didn't remind him to feed) then it still was a blunder and unfair to Almeida. If they in their review of the Giro figure out that is what happened then they should apologize to Almeida if only in house.

[/QUOTE="Bardamu, post: 2566197, member: 115729"]
where does the nickname Bambi come from?
[/QUOTE]
The Bambi reference is to the Disney 1942 animated Movie and specifically to the scenes of Bambi first trying to follow the rabbits on a frozen pond (in the Movie the young dear Bambi and the rabbits are talking I know it's an animated Movie ) anyway in the scenes Bambi keeps stumbling and falling on the icy pond, it's a cute scene but that is what the reference is about. As an allegory to Remco's descending skills.

 

[Pantani_lives]

You have to look at it from the bright side. He's still the first Belgian.

19	Remco Evenepoel (Bel) Deceuninck-QuickStep	0:28:07
20	Louis Vervaeke (Bel) Alpecin-Fenix	0:36:47

[Source: Cyclingnews]